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kelmar6821 wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...

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AshiraShepard wrote...

BIOWARE!

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lololol Ashira I'm so sorry but:

Samara: Shepard, we need to talk

Shepard: Sure, Samara, but...what happened to your arms?

Samara: That last mission......I was unarmed

Shepard: [deadpan Meer]NOOOOOOOOOOO![/deadpan meer]



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yo straight up, if any Shepard deserves to see Armless Samara naked, its "Armless Mohawk Shepard" :D


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Mowhawk Shepard...............may have also lost his libido


lol XD

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yorkj86 wrote...

That implies that Morinth is capable of intimacy...


I've been away sleeping for roughly six hours but...

How very dare you! XD I'm trying to keep that a possibility in my mind right now. 

It ain't easy trying to write her in a different light :whistle:

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NICKjnp wrote...

Asari are able to reproduce the way they do because they have magic...

It's the power of science fiction dude.  Did you watch DS9? Remember Jadzia Dax?  She carried around that symbiant with her. 

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I'm a terrible person, I actually do this. (not that other's don't with Tali, Garrus, Miranda, Kasumi-etc)



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Zaeed: We need to get across the bridge to Vido, so- Shepard? Shepard are you even listenin' here?

Shepard: What? Oh! Yeah...uh...sure...Vido. [turns away and activates bridge]

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Nevermind LOL:O

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Bringing Samara on Zaeed's loyalty mission seems like it would be courting complete disaster. If Shep spares Zaeed at the end, I'd be surprised if Samara lets him walk after the stunt he pulled at the gate and his stated intent after the civilian screams for help.



Zaeed may be one hell of a fighter, but Sammy would completely steamroll him.

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Guddamn lesbians



didn't some one make giff of exactly that?

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u kno another reason why i think samara is so proud of morinth possibly? Its cause deep down she hated being stigmatized for having an asari partner, and to see the product of that partnership rebel so furiously is almost redeeming for her.



Or maybe im reaching, but hell hath no fury :D

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kelmar6821 wrote...

Guddamn lesbians

didn't some one make giff of exactly that?


Yeeeeeees?

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Auzden wrote...

what are your judgements on the possibility of Samara returning in ME3 as romancable partner?


To amswer this, I'll simply repost something I said once before:

"in character" I see Shep (I play FemShep) feeling hurt, but then understanding what just happened when Sarama rejects her in the Observation Room.   Samara didn't say the she didn't love Shep.  She said that she couldn't  be in a relationship.

Given the coming war with the  Reapers, or at the very least a long, hard path to unifying the galaxy against them, there'd be no time for whats commonly seen as a relationship.

What would Shep want?  Marrige and kids?  Samra's done both, and likely will not want to risk having another Ardat Yakshi.  The best Shep can really hope far is someone she can trust to stand at her side and have her  back.  Someone to go though hell and high water with her again and again until the war is won.  Someone she can trust with the lives of the  people she cares for, respect, and stand shoulder to shoulder with
against the greatest threat civilization has ever met.

With  Samara, Shepard has just that.  Maybe, sometime in the furture, they can find a moment of peace and allow themselvs to hold one another for a few fleeting heartbeats between battles.  That time is not now, though. 
Now is the time to lock up everything that gets in the way and focus on saving everything they love and hold dear.  It's a time for War, not love.

Will a time when both of them can set aside everything they've been fighting for and live in the moment come in their lifetimes?  Probably not.  Nothing says they can't hope and fight for it though.

Samara said "Another time.  Another life."  She did not say "No, never."

She wasn't a quickie before tossing themselves into what amounts to a hard fought skirmish.  If Samara is to be someone Shepard can love, she's going to be someone Shep has to stand, fight, and endure hell and  damnnation for.  For Samara, Shep will have to face the absolute worst of everything the universe can bring to bear, meet it head on, and never under any circumstances falter or relent.  Shepard will have to walk the darkest, hardest, and most grinding and soul destroying path that we all ultimately walk alone with nothing left to drive her but the trust that Samara will be at the end of it, with Samara feeling the same for her.  A relationship is something they'll have to drive for.  Fight, bleed, weep and battle tooth and nail with every iota of their being to acheive.

Thats not just love, it's faith.  You can be dammed sure that Samara would do the same for Shepard, but is Shepard willing to do the same for her? 

Screw happy music, warm and fluffy feelings, and a cute pre-battle love scene.  For an epic space opera, there needs to be an epic love story to go with it, and in my view, Samara easily fits the bill.  Ture love isn't painted in pastels with chirping birds and happy dances.  True Love is passion and war and defiance.  It's not a bright sunny day in a field of flowers, it is Malestrom unleashed.  It's as much trust and respect as loyalty and sacrifice, even if that sacrifice is the one you love above all.  Shepard loves Samara enough to make sacrifices for her, but does
she love Samara enough to sacrifice her for what they both hold dear?  Is Samara willing to do the same?

Love, much like hate, is a word that gets tossed around far and away too much anymore.  If one feels  like using that word to describe something they'd best be goddamed willing to back it up, otherwise it's a sham.

Nothing worth fighting for is every easy.  And if it ever seems it is, you either completely failed somewhere and dropped the ball, or the fight is just getting started.  I get that vibe from Samara.  The fight ins't over by a long shot, so no celebrating yet.

Yes, I'm a Samara shipper. Though I think that if a romance between Shepard and Samara shopuld be written, than it should be of the kind that makes gods weep.

Samara is subtle, yes.  But when she makes a dicision, she moves on it openly and decisively.  Should Shepard somehow gain Samara's romantic attention (Samara knows she has Sheps) then I'd exepct (hope) the...courtship to be drawn out, sidelong, subtle and, honestly, a bit on the playful side on Samara's end.  She'd want to she just how serious Shepard really is.

When/if Samara decides to make her move on Shepard, I think Shep would be the one surprised and left breathless.  I think Samara would put the famed "Tali pounce" to complete shame with ease.

So yes, I'd support even a lovemaking scene between the two, but I think Samara would be the "dominant" one, which would make a wonderful contrast to the other possible partners.  Lets see Shepard be the nervous one for a change.

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LiquidGrape wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...

Guddamn lesbians

didn't some one make giff of exactly that?


Yeeeeeees?

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LG...? I love you XD 

:wub:

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AshiraShepard wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...

Guddamn lesbians

didn't some one make giff of exactly that?


Yeeeeeees?

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LG...? I love you XD 

:wub:


You know full well that Samara would be doing that little amused half-smirk of hers through this. :lol:  Even after all her time as a Justicar, she's probably still got that little voice in her head saying "Heh.  Still got it."

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Wasn't there a picture with her doing one of the idle animations with Omega dancers in the background? =P



"I'm pretty sure I could outdance any of these silly little maidens."



Was the quote I remember...everytime I think about it a voice immediately goes, "oh we know you could, and we'd love to see it."



<--- *terrible person*



=P

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AshiraShepard wrote...

Wasn't there a picture with her doing one of the idle animations with Omega dancers in the background? =P

"I'm pretty sure I could outdance any of these silly little maidens."

Was the quote I remember...everytime I think about it a voice immediately goes, "oh we know you could, and we'd love to see it."



=P


I think if Samara ever decided to dance so seductively, she'd only have one target in mind, and she'd be even more, um, predetory than her late daughter.

Samara: *Dances sineously and seductively towards her target with a smouldering look*
Shepard: *Suddenly sweating, jittery, and feeling like she's being hunted, tugs at her now too-tight collar* Um....*Backs into the now locked door that refuses her command codes*

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XD Okay... I loled.



Someone needs to draw that =P



I can't stop snickering/smiling.

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AshiraShepard wrote...

XD Okay... I loled.

Someone needs to draw that =P

I can't stop snickering/smiling.


Should romance ever occur between Shep and Samara, Samara needs to be the one making Shepard act like a blushing maiden/nervous schoolboy as she teaches the human how it's done right and proper.

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#8092
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You know what? I can't honestly picture it any other way XD

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7Makaveli wrote...

lemme break it down for ye

- the appeal in a Samara romance has to be its subtlety.

- It has to demonstrate Samara's propensity to be charming and graceful.

- Its content should be prominent in determining what makes both Samara and Shepard drift towards noble causes.

- Its purpose should be to find a middle ground between a platonic relationship and a romantic relationship

- its theme should be "betterment through personal hardships"

- It must feature Samara's half smiles and soul stirring glares

- It should make the player feel warmth, not giddiness

- it should not be arbitrary for her characters development

- It should not be a resolution, but a commencement of something greater


can I get a Amen! :D


You sure can...

Amen!

As for the sex scene, Samara being a private person, I think small details hinting at a sexual encounter having happened would work better than actually showing the scene itself. Such as more physicality in their interaction during cut scenes (hand holding, hug, like every touch might be the last). It's also an interesting challenge for animators.

Thinking on her refusal on ME2, I think it may be because she feels romantic involvement without the possibility of it evolving into parenthood is too painful a reminder of her loss. She obviously developped great affection/love towards (paragon) Shepard, so the love IS there; but so is the pain... This pain has to be exorcised before Samara will allow love to bloom.

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7Makaveli wrote...

lemme break it down for ye

- the appeal in a Samara romance has to be its subtlety.

- It has to demonstrate Samara's propensity to be charming and graceful.

- Its content should be prominent in determining what makes both Samara and Shepard drift towards noble causes.

- Its purpose should be to find a middle ground between a platonic relationship and a romantic relationship

- its theme should be "betterment through personal hardships"

- It must feature Samara's half smiles and soul stirring glares

- It should make the player feel warmth, not giddiness

- it should not be arbitrary for her characters development

- It should not be a resolution, but a commencement of something greater


can I get a Amen! :D



I agree.  You get an internet cookie!

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AshiraShepard wrote...

Wasn't there a picture with her doing one of the idle animations with Omega dancers in the background? =P

"I'm pretty sure I could outdance any of these silly little maidens."

Was the quote I remember...everytime I think about it a voice immediately goes, "oh we know you could, and we'd love to see it."



=P


I remember saying that, but now I have a different take on it XD

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^ more comfy clothes for Samara in ME3!

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LiquidGrape wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...

Guddamn lesbians

didn't some one make giff of exactly that?


Yeeeeeees?

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I never get tired of this one... Image IPB Probably because I DID notice how cool Samara looked when I played through it. She's... impossible to ignore... Sorry Zaeed!Image IPB

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Flamewielder wrote...

You sure can...

Amen!

As for the sex scene, Samara being a private person, I think small details hinting at a sexual encounter having happened would work better than actually showing the scene itself. Such as more physicality in their interaction during cut scenes (hand holding, hug, like every touch might be the last). It's also an interesting challenge for animators.

Thinking on her refusal on ME2, I think it may be because she feels romantic involvement without the possibility of it evolving into parenthood is too painful a reminder of her loss. She obviously developped great affection/love towards (paragon) Shepard, so the love IS there; but so is the pain... This pain has to be exorcised before Samara will allow love to bloom.


Come to think of it, that could have been her first serious relationship (the one that ended with Ardat Yakshi) so it is possible that she just hasn't seperated the fact that having a partner is one thing, having children is another. No matter how much at terms she is with happened after she decided to settle down, there could just be a mental block that doesn't allow her to comprehend having another relationship after what happened. I'm sure there is more to it than that, given her Justicar position, but emotionally she does seem to be struggling with it. Walking away to another room is ultimately an escapist action, as if to say "no, I don't think I can discuss this any further without compromising myself". But then again, Shepard does push a little hard, allowing her to cling on to self-discipline. It was just very classy of her, I think.

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Hey... check out my signature and where it links to.

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1-555?

Where are you living?

I stil giggle btw every time I see that reference. Because I'm twelve =P

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Flamewielder wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

Yeeeeeees?

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I never get tired of this one... Image IPB Probably because I DID notice how cool Samara looked when I played through it. She's... impossible to ignore... Sorry Zaeed!Image IPB


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Something like that...only, ya know...pertaining to Samara and her awesomeness? :bandit: