Guest_yorkj86_*
aamy wrote...
I hope that she returns in some capacity as a person who is at peace but far from complacent, because that's what makes her who she is. Perhaps tireless crusades against corrupted states is in her future
yorkj86 wrote...
aamy wrote...
I hope that she returns in some capacity as a person who is at peace but far from complacent, because that's what makes her who she is. Perhaps tireless crusades against corrupted states is in her future
Yes! I hope she has many more years ahead of her as a Justicar, doing what Justicars do. Maybe she can bring Paragon Shepard along for the ride, occasionally.
I haven't seen you post in this thread before. Hi.
. I have been mostly a listener in this and a select few threads, but felt like participating. Some of the discussions dispense plenty of insight I find.
Guest_JohnnyDollar_*
Many people seem to hold the thought that she will somehow play a role in Asari politics of some sort. With the impending danger on the horizon, and the presumed need for allies to defeat the Reapers.aamy wrote...
Hello yourself yorkj86yorkj86 wrote...
aamy wrote...
I hope that she returns in some capacity as a person who is at peace but far from complacent, because that's what makes her who she is. Perhaps tireless crusades against corrupted states is in her future
Yes! I hope she has many more years ahead of her as a Justicar, doing what Justicars do. Maybe she can bring Paragon Shepard along for the ride, occasionally.
I haven't seen you post in this thread before. Hi.
Samara knows nothing else except Justicar-ing, I am sure she will find a noble cause to align herself with while Shepard comes for her aid again
JohnnyDollar wrote...
Many people seem to hold the thought that she will somehow play a role in Asari politics of some sort. With the impending danger on the horizon, and the presumed need for allies to defeat the Reapers.aamy wrote...
Hello yourself yorkj86yorkj86 wrote...
aamy wrote...
I hope that she returns in some capacity as a person who is at peace but far from complacent, because that's what makes her who she is. Perhaps tireless crusades against corrupted states is in her future
Yes! I hope she has many more years ahead of her as a Justicar, doing what Justicars do. Maybe she can bring Paragon Shepard along for the ride, occasionally.
I haven't seen you post in this thread before. Hi.
Samara knows nothing else except Justicar-ing, I am sure she will find a noble cause to align herself with while Shepard comes for her aid again
JohnnyDollar wrote...
Many people seem to hold the thought that she will somehow play a role in Asari politics of some sort. With the impending danger on the horizon, and the presumed need for allies to defeat the Reapers.aamy wrote...
Hello yourself yorkj86yorkj86 wrote...
aamy wrote...
I hope that she returns in some capacity as a person who is at peace but far from complacent, because that's what makes her who she is. Perhaps tireless crusades against corrupted states is in her future
Yes! I hope she has many more years ahead of her as a Justicar, doing what Justicars do. Maybe she can bring Paragon Shepard along for the ride, occasionally.
I haven't seen you post in this thread before. Hi.
Samara knows nothing else except Justicar-ing, I am sure she will find a noble cause to align herself with while Shepard comes for her aid again
Guest_yorkj86_*
aamy wrote...
A role, but ultimately a countered stance towards politics. Justicar's to me are the antithesis of social order/rule, which is the essence of politics. The Code seems to be averse to such conditional whims.
Guest_JohnnyDollar_*
JohnnyDollar wrote...
Many people seem to hold the thought that she will somehow play a role in Asari politics of some sort. With the impending danger on the horizon, and the presumed need for allies to defeat the Reapers.
I don't see her playing the role as a politician myself.aamy wrote...
A role, but ultimately a countered stance towards politics. Justicar's to me are the antithesis of social order/rule, which is the essence of politics. The Code seems to be averse to such conditional whims.
Modifié par JohnnyDollar, 10 juin 2010 - 06:01 .
yorkj86 wrote...
aamy wrote...
A role, but ultimately a countered stance towards politics. Justicar's to me are the antithesis of social order/rule, which is the essence of politics. The Code seems to be averse to such conditional whims.
I don't think so. The Justicars enforce the Code, which contains moral standards, which are summarized in a society's justice system, which is indicative of the society's moral and social norms. The Justicars enforce the justice system. They are sent in when all else has failed to deal peacefully with a threat, and even when other, lesser methods of force have failed.
The Justicars are kept out of politics. The Oaths of Subsumation were created to prevent the Justicars from rearranging society according to the tenets of the Code.
Guest_yorkj86_*
aamy wrote...
Yes, but clearly morals and social norms have been subjected to "the greyness" where now mainstream politics attempts to resolve mutilayered situations. The Code only outlines the extremes of those situations. You pointed out yourself that they are sent in last, when all subjective interpretation is irrelevant, much like how politics is not useful at this point. The most drastic action is taken, which is execution, not advocated by politicians I'm sure, but accepted nonetheless. Fair enough?
Modifié par yorkj86, 10 juin 2010 - 06:03 .
Guest_yorkj86_*
yorkj86 wrote...
aamy wrote...
Yes, but clearly morals and social norms have been subjected to "the greyness" where now mainstream politics attempts to resolve mutilayered situations. The Code only outlines the extremes of those situations. You pointed out yourself that they are sent in last, when all subjective interpretation is irrelevant, much like how politics is not useful at this point. The most drastic action is taken, which is execution, not advocated by politicians I'm sure, but accepted nonetheless. Fair enough?
Maybe, but I'm not entirely convinced. The continued existence of the Code and the Justicars are at least a tacit acceptance of force in a situation where all else fails. What you say may be true for humans, but perhaps not for the Asari.
Would you say the same of any person put in to a position of power where he is allowed to take a life, where that position of power is granted by a social contract?
EDIT: Cutting down on quote pyramids.
Modifié par aamy, 10 juin 2010 - 06:14 .
Guest_yorkj86_*
aamy wrote...
Cultural relativity may be in play, but I ask you, for a race that adopts a "long view" in its political landscape (discounting the onset of this doctrine), does it perfectly align with the philosophy of the Code to swiftly resolve a situation in a drastic manner? That to me is a more significant question.
Modifié par yorkj86, 10 juin 2010 - 06:18 .
yorkj86 wrote...
Since the Asari are known for being centrists and diplomats, and since they practice the "long-view" in all things, it's not unreasonable to say that they would take their time in exhausting all peaceful options first before sending in the cavalry. They have a military. They have the Asari Commandos They have the Destiny Ascension. I think that they understand the value of force, but only when diplomacy has failed.
Modifié par Revan312, 10 juin 2010 - 06:55 .
Heh. Now all someone needs to do is create a video demonstrating that Samara is responsible for every defenestration ever shown on tv or the movies.Revan312 wrote...
Well, that's debatable as Samara did shove Locke out a window for no reason...
Guest_yorkj86_*
Modifié par yorkj86, 10 juin 2010 - 06:59 .
Pacifien wrote...
Heh. Now all someone needs to do is create a video demonstrating that Samara is responsible for every defenestration ever shown on tv or the movies.
She does love throwing people out windows, especially people from LOST.
yorkj86 wrote...
Anyway, will this gif be the new Force Push meme?
Revan312 wrote...
Well, that's debatable as Samara did shove Locke out a window for no reason...
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