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[Blackveldt]

G30rg13 wrote...

Honestly, I never liked Samara. I find her character quite boring. Just like Liara, boring. I never kill her and take Morinth instead but still, Samara is just boring to me. I think Bioware should have more colorful Asari join the team, and I don't mean skin. I mean come on, you've got a race of all blue woman, who can screw anyone, ALL have GREAT biotics, now they have vampires, come on. They give us a bookish scientist, and a monotoned, depressed policewoman. Really? REALLY? You create a league of all powerfull special ops SWAT Asari from hell, who can do ANYTHING they want and you give us one whose depressed and tone deaf?

Do you have a more interesting proposal and/or suggestion?

[BlackMetal]

G30rg13 wrote...

Honestly, I never liked Samara. I find her character quite boring. Just like Liara, boring. I never kill her and take Morinth instead but still, Samara is just boring to me. I think Bioware should have more colorful Asari join the team, and I don't mean skin. I mean come on, you've got a race of all blue woman, who can screw anyone, ALL have GREAT biotics, now they have vampires, come on. They give us a bookish scientist, and a monotoned, depressed policewoman. Really? REALLY? You create a league of all powerfull special ops SWAT Asari from hell, who can do ANYTHING they want and you give us one whose depressed and tone deaf?

I think there's a diffirence between depressed and keeping your emotions in check. But you have your own opinion and we have ours, and my belief is that if you actually pay attention to her character and go through all the dialogue her character isn't stale.

[Blackveldt]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Hadn't seen you in a while Balckveldt. You been hiding?

Hah.  Maaaybe   Been doing some other things.  Hopefully, there are some interesting threads to keep me around.

[G30rg13]

Blackveldt wrote...

G30rg13 wrote...

Honestly, I never liked Samara. I find her character quite boring. Just like Liara, boring. I never kill her and take Morinth instead but still, Samara is just boring to me. I think Bioware should have more colorful Asari join the team, and I don't mean skin. I mean come on, you've got a race of all blue woman, who can screw anyone, ALL have GREAT biotics, now they have vampires, come on. They give us a bookish scientist, and a monotoned, depressed policewoman. Really? REALLY? You create a league of all powerfull special ops SWAT Asari from hell, who can do ANYTHING they want and you give us one whose depressed and tone deaf?

Do you have a more interesting proposal and/or suggestion?

I'm sorry if I came across like a jerk there, but all I said was I found her boring. I never said I hated her character, it's just that I saw the potential for a character with a background like this, and I was disapointed. I've gone through all of her dialouge, just like every other squadmate throughout the game in all of my playthroughs. and if you don't believe me here's your proof: About the third time you talk to her, she mensions something and you wind up talking about how she fought Nihlus Kryik for two weeks and he escaped by using her code against her. An innocent or him. Honestly, she reminds me of a jedi, which is a good thing, if she didn't I wouldn't lkie her at all. Her loyalty mission is one of my favorites though. it's just that, well you guys have my complaints up there ^ lol.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  

[G30rg13]

oops double post

Modifié par G30rg13, 04 juillet 2010 - 06:28 .

[Ashira Shepard]

G30rg13 wrote...

Honestly, I never liked Samara. I find her character quite boring. Just like Liara, boring. I never kill her and take Morinth instead but still, Samara is just boring to me. I think Bioware should have more colorful Asari join the team, and I don't mean skin. I mean come on, you've got a race of all blue woman, who can screw anyone, ALL have GREAT biotics, now they have vampires, come on. They give us a bookish scientist, and a monotoned, depressed policewoman. Really? REALLY? You create a league of all powerfull special ops SWAT Asari from hell, who can do ANYTHING they want and you give us one whose depressed and tone deaf?

Hello, dear sir. If you are hear to bash to character, please take your inquiry to the Morinth thread.

If you are here to discuss the character in a less insulting way, then please make the necessary changes and carry on.

[7Makaveli]

AshiraShepard wrote...

G30rg13 wrote...

Honestly, I never liked Samara. I find her character quite boring. Just like Liara, boring. I never kill her and take Morinth instead but still, Samara is just boring to me. I think Bioware should have more colorful Asari join the team, and I don't mean skin. I mean come on, you've got a race of all blue woman, who can screw anyone, ALL have GREAT biotics, now they have vampires, come on. They give us a bookish scientist, and a monotoned, depressed policewoman. Really? REALLY? You create a league of all powerfull special ops SWAT Asari from hell, who can do ANYTHING they want and you give us one whose depressed and tone deaf?

Hello, dear sir. If you are hear to bash to character, please take your inquiry to the Morinth thread.

If you are here to discuss the character in a less insulting way, then please make the necessary changes and carry on.

http://pics.livejour...at/pic/0000dprs

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....maybe its cuz I'm totally on fumes, but this gif seemed incredibly appropriate right now

[Blackveldt]

G30rg13 wrote...

Blackveldt wrote...

G30rg13 wrote...

Honestly, I never liked Samara. I find her character quite boring. Just like Liara, boring. I never kill her and take Morinth instead but still, Samara is just boring to me. I think Bioware should have more colorful Asari join the team, and I don't mean skin. I mean come on, you've got a race of all blue woman, who can screw anyone, ALL have GREAT biotics, now they have vampires, come on. They give us a bookish scientist, and a monotoned, depressed policewoman. Really? REALLY? You create a league of all powerfull special ops SWAT Asari from hell, who can do ANYTHING they want and you give us one whose depressed and tone deaf?

Do you have a more interesting proposal and/or suggestion?

I'm sorry if I came across like a jerk there, but all I said was I found her boring. I never said I hated her character, it's just that I saw the potential for a character with a background like this, and I was disapointed. I've gone through all of her dialouge, just like every other squadmate throughout the game in all of my playthroughs. and if you don't believe me here's your proof: About the third time you talk to her, she mensions something and you wind up talking about how she fought Nihlus Kryik for two weeks and he escaped by using her code against her. An innocent or him. Honestly, she reminds me of a jedi, which is a good thing, if she didn't I wouldn't lkie her at all. Her loyalty mission is one of my favorites though. it's just that, well you guys have my complaints up there ^ lol.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  

That is perfectly fine.  I can understand why people may not like her character, but I also see how much depth she has to offer.  She deals in absolutism.  She's 'good,' but still kills in the name of justic, which can present the player with issues of moral ambiguity.  A Jedi is merciful, killing only when necessary, and believing that people can be redeemed.  (Honestly, she reminds me more of a Vulcan than anything.)  Samara carries the same 'Paragon' demeanor, but is not merciful, striking with a righteous vengeance underneath the control that she has mastered.  And even more so, with a deep-rooted sadness, when it comes to her daughter.  A daughter who merely went on the run for being persecuted (albeit a psychotic one).  "The genetic destiny" of the Asari also brings up some interesting questions.

I feel as if we have only begun to scratch the surface that is Samara.  She has lived for nearly a millenium, is the only crew member to refuse the romantic advances of one Commander Shepard, and even more interesting is the prospect of her attempting to bring a Renegade Shepard to justice in ME3.  I believe her character has plenty more to offer.

[Blackveldt]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Blackveldt wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Hadn't seen you in a while Balckveldt. You been hiding?

Hah.  Maaaybe   Been doing some other things.  Hopefully, there are some interesting threads to keep me around.

You may find a few of them.  Watch out for the whiners though. They are launching a full scale invasion.

Lol.  Will do.

[Blackveldt]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Blackveldt wrote...
That is perfectly fine.  I can understand why people may not like her character, but I also see how much depth she has to offer.  She deals in absolutism.  She's 'good,' but still kills in the name of justic, which can present the player with issues of moral ambiguity.  A Jedi is merciful, killing only when necessary, and believing that people can be redeemed.  (Honestly, she reminds me more of a Vulcan than anything.)  Samara carries the same 'Paragon' demeanor, but is not merciful, striking with a righteous vengeance underneath the control that she has mastered.  And even more so, with a deep-rooted sadness, when it comes to her daughter.  A daughter who merely went on the run for being persecuted (albeit a psychotic one).  "The genetic destiny" of the Asari also brings up some interesting questions.

I feel as if we have only begun to scratch the surface that is Samara.  She has lived for nearly a millenium, is the only crew member to refuse the romantic advances of one Commander Shepard, and even more interesting is the prospect of her attempting to bring a Renegade Shepard to justice in ME3.  I believe her character has plenty more to offer.

I never thought of the Vulcun analogy before, but their are some likenesses there.  I just hope that she doesn't get relegated to a short cameo appearance in ME3.  That would be a bummer.

I surely hope that is not the case either.  And not just with Samara; I would very much enjoy all of the crew members having significant roles.  After all, ME2 was wholly centered around not only recruiting these people, but getting to know them on a personal and professional level.  Bioware made us care for these characters; it would be in poor taste to proffer a camio to cheapen our experience (not to mention belittle our efforts made in ME2).

[BlackMetal]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Blackveldt wrote...
That is perfectly fine.  I can understand why people may not like her character, but I also see how much depth she has to offer.  She deals in absolutism.  She's 'good,' but still kills in the name of justic, which can present the player with issues of moral ambiguity.  A Jedi is merciful, killing only when necessary, and believing that people can be redeemed.  (Honestly, she reminds me more of a Vulcan than anything.)  Samara carries the same 'Paragon' demeanor, but is not merciful, striking with a righteous vengeance underneath the control that she has mastered.  And even more so, with a deep-rooted sadness, when it comes to her daughter.  A daughter who merely went on the run for being persecuted (albeit a psychotic one).  "The genetic destiny" of the Asari also brings up some interesting questions.

I feel as if we have only begun to scratch the surface that is Samara.  She has lived for nearly a millenium, is the only crew member to refuse the romantic advances of one Commander Shepard, and even more interesting is the prospect of her attempting to bring a Renegade Shepard to justice in ME3.  I believe her character has plenty more to offer.

I never thought of the Vulcun analogy before, but their are some likenesses there.  I just hope that she doesn't get relegated to a short cameo appearance in ME3.  That would be a bummer.

If Samara is a short cameo, i will be dissapoint in Bioware.

[nitefyre410]

Blackveldt wrote...

G30rg13 wrote...

Blackveldt wrote...

G30rg13 wrote...

Honestly, I never liked Samara. I find her character quite boring. Just like Liara, boring. I never kill her and take Morinth instead but still, Samara is just boring to me. I think Bioware should have more colorful Asari join the team, and I don't mean skin. I mean come on, you've got a race of all blue woman, who can screw anyone, ALL have GREAT biotics, now they have vampires, come on. They give us a bookish scientist, and a monotoned, depressed policewoman. Really? REALLY? You create a league of all powerfull special ops SWAT Asari from hell, who can do ANYTHING they want and you give us one whose depressed and tone deaf?

Do you have a more interesting proposal and/or suggestion?

I'm sorry if I came across like a jerk there, but all I said was I found her boring. I never said I hated her character, it's just that I saw the potential for a character with a background like this, and I was disapointed. I've gone through all of her dialouge, just like every other squadmate throughout the game in all of my playthroughs. and if you don't believe me here's your proof: About the third time you talk to her, she mensions something and you wind up talking about how she fought Nihlus Kryik for two weeks and he escaped by using her code against her. An innocent or him. Honestly, she reminds me of a jedi, which is a good thing, if she didn't I wouldn't lkie her at all. Her loyalty mission is one of my favorites though. it's just that, well you guys have my complaints up there ^ lol.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  

That is perfectly fine.  I can understand why people may not like her character, but I also see how much depth she has to offer.  She deals in absolutism.  She's 'good,' but still kills in the name of justic, which can present the player with issues of moral ambiguity.  A Jedi is merciful, killing only when necessary, and believing that people can be redeemed.  (Honestly, she reminds me more of a Vulcan than anything.)  Samara carries the same 'Paragon' demeanor, but is not merciful, striking with a righteous vengeance underneath the control that she has mastered.  And even more so, with a deep-rooted sadness, when it comes to her daughter.  A daughter who merely went on the run for being persecuted (albeit a psychotic one).  "The genetic destiny" of the Asari also brings up some interesting questions.

I feel as if we have only begun to scratch the surface that is Samara.  She has lived for nearly a millenium, is the only crew member to refuse the romantic advances of one Commander Shepard, and even more interesting is the prospect of her attempting to bring a Renegade Shepard to justice in ME3.  I believe her character has plenty more to offer.

   
 
The Jedi   comparison is interesting but I see Samara is more samurai  like  that anything  Justicar code sound more closely related to bushido. A lot of people seem to hold her killing her daughter over head as something  that damning her character. Hell I can't say  i would not have done the same my child a Serial  Killing for over  400 years... Mornith did it for the fun and i am willing to guess that everyone person she kill she was doing just stick  it her mom some more... If i was in that situation I can not say i would not do the same thing Samara  did. It was almost like to took the burden herself and did not want anyone else to do it but herself. 

[Siansonea]

I don't see how anyone could listen to Nef's mother's grief and not understand why Morinth had to be stopped, and why Samara felt it was her duty to stop Morinth.

[Ashira Shepard]

Because they already made up their mind about Samara being a "soulless harpy"? I heard someone say that once...seriously. *facepalm*



Mostly it's out of them not liking Samara (for inane reasons, but that could just be the fangirl in me talking) or just as commonly "doing it for the Evulz."



In the case of some, it's from liking both characters and just being curious about what happens.

[axl99]

I is done.

[Pacifien]

For some reason that drawing makes me think Samara really could "flay you with my mind!"

[NICKjnp]

That is one of the best Samara pictures I've viewed in a quite some time. Did you draw it yourself?

[BlackMetal]

That's a great picture Axl.

[Ashira Shepard]

Nice work Axl :3

[PseudoEthnic]

Great picture, axl99! Samara's loyalty outfit is probably the best loyalty skin other than Grunt's.

[axl99]

NICKjnp wrote...

That is one of the best Samara pictures I've viewed in a quite some time. Did you draw it yourself?

Thank you kindly, and yes, I did

Modifié par axl99, 04 juillet 2010 - 07:00 .