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When you infiltrate their headquarters be sure to see what they have planned for Samara. :)

A vaction with Samara on Risa.  The pleasure planet. :devil:


"Pleasure" is relative.  Does this mean that Risa is a planet filled with criminal scum who need to be brought to justice?

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yorkj86 wrote...

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When you infiltrate their headquarters be sure to see what they have planned for Samara. :)

A vaction with Samara on Risa.  The pleasure planet. :devil:


"Pleasure" is relative.  Does this mean that Risa is a planet filled with criminal scum who need to be brought to justice?

Not likely. http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Risa

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The pleasure planet sounds nice!

I sometimes wish Earth was like this.:P

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Okay...this is really out there, but how do you think Samara would react to a Zombie Apocalypse?

I'm asking this simply because some of us in Waffles have filled out "Zombie Survival Sheets"

That one was mine, and the sidekick slot, see?

So...yeah.

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Samara's Survival Sheet In Case Zombies Take Over A Planet To Fight For Equal Right For Zombies All Over Space:

Location: Tuchanka, cause its dirty, smelly, and rotten, perfect place to lure them in :devil:

Stronghold: In a cave with many Pyjaks so they distract the zombies coming in :ph34r:

Vehicle: UT-47 Kodiak Drop Shuttle hijacked from Normandy SR2 :D

Main Weapon: M451-Firestorm B)

Secondary Weapon: M-920 Cain :o

Battle Anthem: Sinner Man - Nina Simone =]

Clothing Upper:
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Inventory: Weapons and armor...duhh :mellow:

Sidekick: Trusty pet varren she befriended before Zombie Apocalypse, named it Cerberus :lol:

Last Words: "For the record, the Code speaks not of zombies, only mere pests <_<"

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What's up Mak? Man this thread is dead, and it has been that way for a while. Bummer, we used to have some real interesting-lengthy discussions in here.

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yea we're limping to page 400. but compared to other threads, we've probably done the best job of keeping on topic of Samara, in relation to how much content there is of her to go by.

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7Makaveli wrote..

Last Words: "For the record, the Code speaks not of zombies, only mere pests <_<"


lol, I liked my one better, but this is still funny XD Its just "yeah, I know I'm about to die, but I'm still going to defiantly spite you."

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I don't think Reave would work on the actual undead, but Samara would be great for the zombie apocalypse, since she knows how to fight, knows how to use a variety of weapons, has ~700 years of weapons training, and probably knows how to be resourceful, having worked alone for so long.

Jack would be useful for Shockwave, for zombie-bowling, but that just knocks them around.  You'd still have to destroy the brain.  You need good aim for that.  As stated above, Samara has good aim.

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Ok admittedly off topic of Samara but a thought I wanted to run by the people in this group. If you let the Destiny Ascension get destroyed at the end of ME1 you hear news reports that the asari are turning over some of their military responsibility to the turian's.



Anyone else think that's just a horrible idea given how quick the turians are to shoot first and bother to ask questions later? I just don't see the turian's getting more influence either political wise or military wise being a great thing to happen for the future of humanity in the ME universe long term.



Anyway I'm curious to hear what other people's thoughts are on the subject.

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That's interesting.  I didn't know that.  Saving the Destiny Ascension convinces the Asari to be a little more militaristic?

The Turians get things done.  The Asari will sit and think about it for ten years, then maybe make a decision.  It's a bad idea to hand over military control to someone else, especially if they have a history of reckless behavior.  There are those Cerberus Daily News reports of Turian forces committing atrocities on Taetrus.  The Salarians developed the Genophage, but the Turians were the ones who unexpectedly distributed it.

Lastly, the Asari needs to stop deferring political decisions to their allies.  They need to be able to stand on their own feet.

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yorkj86 wrote...

That's interesting.  I didn't know that.  Saving the Destiny Ascension convinces the Asari to be a little more militaristic?

The Turians get things done.  The Asari will sit and think about it for ten years, then maybe make a decision.  It's a bad idea to hand over military control to someone else, especially if they have a history of reckless behavior.  There are those Cerberus Daily News reports of Turian forces committing atrocities on Taetrus.  The Salarians developed the Genophage, but the Turians were the ones who unexpectedly distributed it.

Lastly, the Asari needs to stop deferring political decisions to their allies.  They need to be able to stand on their own feet.


I think it's more like the asari decline to rebuild the ship and thus hand over some of their responsibilities to the turians.  I agree that the asari need to step up to the plate more and not let the turians handle most of the Citadel space patrols.  Just a bad idea all the way around for the turians to try and do diplomacy.  They have one tool in their toolbox (probably from being a militaristic culture) and it's a gun, and whenever the turians don't know what to do they grab the gun and start shooting.  Or at least that's what it seems like to me from what I've seen of their actions in the game.

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Kudara wrote...

Ok admittedly off topic of Samara but a thought I wanted to run by the people in this group. If you let the Destiny Ascension get destroyed at the end of ME1 you hear news reports that the asari are turning over some of their military responsibility to the turian's.

Anyone else think that's just a horrible idea given how quick the turians are to shoot first and bother to ask questions later? I just don't see the turian's getting more influence either political wise or military wise being a great thing to happen for the future of humanity in the ME universe long term.

Anyway I'm curious to hear what other people's thoughts are on the subject.


I save the council... even when I'm renegade.  Humanity is still top dog militarily but we share.

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Only my most Renegade Shepards allow the Council to die. They are short-sighted Shepards.

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Only my most Renegade Shepards allow the Council to die. They are short-sighted Shepards.


Eh, their concerns are valid.  Saving the Council is an enormous risk to take.   If too many ships had been lost saving the Ascension, they wouldn't have been able to stop Sovereign at the Citadel Tower, and that would have been the end of all things.

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yorkj86 wrote...

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Only my most Renegade Shepards allow the Council to die. They are short-sighted Shepards.


Eh, their concerns are valid.  Saving the Council is an enormous risk to take.   If too many ships had been lost saving the Ascension, they wouldn't have been able to stop Sovereign at the Citadel Tower, and that would have been the end of all things.


I don't that the risk was that much higher, since the ships that are attacking the Council flag ship are all Geth, and they will have to be dealt with eventually. I think it's that saving the council means that many more humans will die than absolutely necessary, so its up to Shepard to decide whether he truely embrace aliens as equal or does he feel that his humanity requires him to put human lives first.

Also the respond to the turian taking over: It's kind of out of necessity more than anything else. If the ending holds true, then Asari would have been decimated militaryly, and only the turian and human posses great military power, so they had to pick one. For all the turian's problem, they are more familiar to the galaxy, so you rather stick with the devil you know.

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To bring this back to topic. I have say that I love Samara's character, she pretty much redeemed the entire asari race for me. Liara was alright but, the game made it such that she was a rare exception from the typical promiscuous and manipulative stereotypes. It's refreshing to see a philosophical side to the asari, and that they actually have emotions. I also like the way she turns down Shepard, finally a female that can think straight when around him.

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double post

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pprrff wrote...
finally a female that can think straight when around him.


She seemed to get inappropriately excited when I chose her for the final leg of the suicide mission.

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It even freaked Jack out.

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...and then someone holding the line made a wisecrack.

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(Open images in a new window for full size. Samara's face in pic one is freaky)

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Crunchyinmilk wrote...

pprrff wrote...
finally a female that can think straight when around him.


She seemed to get inappropriately excited when I chose her for the final leg of the suicide mission.

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It even freaked Jack out.

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...and then someone holding the line made a wisecrack.

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(Open images in a new window for full size. Samara's face in pic one is freaky)


haha, that's pretty funny. I am suprised you noticed the detail, I usually play this game while watching a movie something. btw, very cool looking Shepard if I might say so.

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To bring this back to topic. I have say that I love Samara's character, she pretty much redeemed the entire asari race for me. Liara was alright but, the game made it such that she was a rare exception from the typical promiscuous and manipulative stereotypes. It's refreshing to see a philosophical side to the asari, and that they actually have emotions. I also like the way she turns down Shepard, finally a female that can think straight when around him.


I disagree with almost everything you said here, and in the other thread, but since I left that thread behind, and this is the Samara thread, I'll address your Samara-related statements.

Samara had her wild years.  LIke other Asari, she shook her ass in bars, joined a mercenary company, engaged in criminal activity, and so on.  Like other Asari, she grew out of that wild behavior, and settled down.  Asari, like humans, live their lives in stages.  Asari, like humans, have biological urges that compel them, but don't force them, to settle down, and raise a family.  Then, the tragedy of finding out that her daughters would  be Ardat-Yakshi occurred.  When Morinth ran, Samara felt obligated by some moral considerations to take control of a situation she had let get out of hand.

Samara  is definitely a strong woman for being able to resist Shepard.  She is definitely a strong woman for being able to endure Justicar training.  She is definitely a strong woman for being able to do what she did.  That is why I find her character to be so appealing.  She has her convictions, and she would rather die than betray them.

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yorkj86 wrote...

pprrff wrote...

To bring this back to topic. I have say that I love Samara's character, she pretty much redeemed the entire asari race for me. Liara was alright but, the game made it such that she was a rare exception from the typical promiscuous and manipulative stereotypes. It's refreshing to see a philosophical side to the asari, and that they actually have emotions. I also like the way she turns down Shepard, finally a female that can think straight when around him.


I disagree with almost everything you said here, and in the other thread, but since I left that thread behind, and this is the Samara thread, I'll address your Samara-related statements.

Samara had her wild years.  LIke other Asari, she shook her ass in bars, joined a mercenary company, engaged in criminal activity, and so on.  Like other Asari, she grew out of that wild behavior, and settled down.  Asari, like humans, live their lives in stages.  Asari, like humans, have biological urges that compel them, but don't force them, to settle down, and raise a family.  Then, the tragedy of finding out that her daughters would  be Ardat-Yakshi occurred.  When Morinth ran, Samara felt obligated by some moral considerations to take control of a situation she had let get out of hand.

Samara  is definitely a strong woman for being able to resist Shepard.  She is definitely a strong woman for being able to endure Justicar training.  She is definitely a strong woman for being able to do what she did.  That is why I find her character to be so appealing.  She has her convictions, and she would rather die than betray them.


Wait, I m confused, which part did you disagree? That she goes against the stereotype asari or there is a stereotype of asari? Forgive me if I intepret your posting wrong, but you are saying that Samara had her colorful past, so she is no different than other asari. To which I would qoute you on the whole morinth tragedy, and that it made her charcter the way she is, which both of us like. Sorry but I fail to see what we are disagreeing on.

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Only my most Renegade Shepards allow the Council to die. They are short-sighted Shepards.

The neutral decision regading the Council in ME1 is the best tactical decision imo. 

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I am disagreeing with, and refusing to address in this thread, the topics you brought up in the other thread, topics including the asari being manipulative, promiscuous, and so on.

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Only my most Renegade Shepards allow the Council to die. They are short-sighted Shepards.

The neutral decision regading the Council in ME1 is the best tactical decision imo. 


What's the neutral option?

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For what it's worth, I called it stereotypes, and I am sure I am not the only one who thought so from reading the Codex on asari.

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yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Only my most Renegade Shepards allow the Council to die. They are short-sighted Shepards.

The neutral decision regading the Council in ME1 is the best tactical decision imo. 


What's the neutral option?

Renegade=Let the coucil die
Neutral=Focus on Sovereign
Paragon=Save the Destiny Ascension