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AshiraShepard wrote...

I didn't think the human race was allowed such regal beauty.


I think we are, considering Samara's face was modeled after a human model.

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AshiraShepard wrote...

I didn't think the human race was allowed such regal beauty.

The lack of head tentacles, head ornaments, and blueness really take away from the regal beauty.

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DOYOURLABS wrote...

I just saw someone who looked exactly like Samara... minus the head tentacles, blueness, and giant bewbs. This is an awesome day.


No pictures?  Nevermind the creepiness, we need things to talk about in this here thread!

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yorkj86 wrote...

DOYOURLABS wrote...

I just saw someone who looked exactly like Samara... minus the head tentacles, blueness, and giant bewbs. This is an awesome day.


No pictures?  Nevermind the creepiness, we need things to talk about in this here thread!

Pics or didn't happen? :P

Here is a topic: Samara as a sleeper agent for the reapers, what evidence do we have? 

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DOYOURLABS wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

DOYOURLABS wrote...

I just saw someone who looked exactly like Samara... minus the head tentacles, blueness, and giant bewbs. This is an awesome day.


No pictures?  Nevermind the creepiness, we need things to talk about in this here thread!

Pics or didn't happen? :P

Here is a topic: Samara as a sleeper agent for the reapers, what evidence do we have? 


Nothing.  Just silliness.

I'd also be angry if it turned out that the Asari were created by the Protheans, or the Reapers.  The Protheans were observing primitive humans, but creating species?

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yorkj86 wrote...

I'd also be angry if it turned out that the Asari were created by the Protheans, or the Reapers.  The Protheans were observing primitive humans, but creating species?

They uplifted the hanar into consciousness, so it's very possible they could. Maybe the asari were just blue octopus equivalents and the protheans gave them a humanoid form but kept the tentacles on the head for a clue?

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I assume the Protheans observed most if not all of the different species in the galaxy during their reign of domination throughout.



I really hope that some strange twist is revealed in ME3, that involves what the Protheans may have done to one or more other species during their reign, that had a lasting influence, other than what has already been revealed.

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That Prothean research stuff has a very "2001: A Space Odyssey" feel to me. Instead of monoliths, they use spheres.

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

I assume the Protheans observed most if not all of the different species in the galaxy during their reign of domination throughout.

I really hope that some strange twist is revealed in ME3, that involves what the Protheans may have done to one or more other species during their reign, that had a lasting influence, other than what has already been revealed.


I think it would be best if it was just revealed that they had been observing all of the current generations of species.  It tackles, head-on, the very science-fiction-y concept of what it means to live in a galaxy where we are not the only sentient, sapient life around.  It also creates a minor sense of unity.

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yorkj86 wrote...
I think it would be best if it was just revealed that they had been observing all of the current generations of species.  It tackles, head-on, the very science-fiction-y concept of what it means to live in a galaxy where we are not the only sentient, sapient life around.  It also creates a minor sense of unity.

I have already made that presumtion.  Although it could be reinforced/revealed in ME3 of course.

Are you expecting all of the questions to the "unkowns",  be answered in ME3?  Or at the very least, revealed to the extent that one can put the pieces together.

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yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

I assume the Protheans observed most if not all of the different species in the galaxy during their reign of domination throughout.

I really hope that some strange twist is revealed in ME3, that involves what the Protheans may have done to one or more other species during their reign, that had a lasting influence, other than what has already been revealed.


I think it would be best if it was just revealed that they had been observing all of the current generations of species.  It tackles, head-on, the very science-fiction-y concept of what it means to live in a galaxy where we are not the only sentient, sapient life around.  It also creates a minor sense of unity.

Well we know they watched us, and according to the hanar they were watched too. Now we just need to find out about the asari, turians, salarians, volus, raloi, krogan, vorcha, batarians, elcor, drell, and quarians.

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yorkj86 wrote...
I think it would be best if it was just revealed that they had been observing all of the current generations of species.  It tackles, head-on, the very science-fiction-y concept of what it means to live in a galaxy where we are not the only sentient, sapient life around.  It also creates a minor sense of unity.

Mmm... as the Vorlons did in B5? Without the gene-tailoring, of course... We know from the Consort's trinket in ME1 that the Protheans studied Humans and the Hanar believe they were uplifted by the Protheans; both elements support the notion of Protheans observing younger races.

Which raises another question: how advanced were the Asari when the Reapers last "reaped"? From a biological standpoint, the Protheans were wiped out only 50-60 asari lifetimes ago. As a comparison, 50 human lifetimes takes us back to the early Bronze Age, the age of Troy and the early Minoean civilization. Were early asari hunter-gatherers "ignored" by the Reapers? Did the Reapers miss them, or did they know about the asari but deemed them too primitive to harvest right away?

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Flamewielder wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...
I think it would be best if it was just revealed that they had been observing all of the current generations of species.  It tackles, head-on, the very science-fiction-y concept of what it means to live in a galaxy where we are not the only sentient, sapient life around.  It also creates a minor sense of unity.

Mmm... as the Vorlons did in B5? Without the gene-tailoring, of course... We know from the Consort's trinket in ME1 that the Protheans studied Humans and the Hanar believe they were uplifted by the Protheans; both elements support the notion of Protheans observing younger races.

Which raises another question: how advanced were the Asari when the Reapers last "reaped"? From a biological standpoint, the Protheans were wiped out only 50-60 asari lifetimes ago. As a comparison, 50 human lifetimes takes us back to the early Bronze Age, the age of Troy and the early Minoean civilization. Were early asari hunter-gatherers "ignored" by the Reapers? Did the Reapers miss them, or did they know about the asari but deemed them too primitive to harvest right away?


I thought that Reapers only exterminate or assimilate species that have space-travel, specifically ones that have reached the Citadel.

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yorkj86 wrote...

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Mmm... as the Vorlons did in B5? Without the gene-tailoring, of course... We know from the Consort's trinket in ME1 that the Protheans studied Humans and the Hanar believe they were uplifted by the Protheans; both elements support the notion of Protheans observing younger races.

Which raises another question: how advanced were the Asari when the Reapers last "reaped"? From a biological standpoint, the Protheans were wiped out only 50-60 asari lifetimes ago. As a comparison, 50 human lifetimes takes us back to the early Bronze Age, the age of Troy and the early Minoean civilization. Were early asari hunter-gatherers "ignored" by the Reapers? Did the Reapers miss them, or did they know about the asari but deemed them too primitive to harvest right away?

I thought that Reapers only exterminate or assimilate species that have space-travel, specifically ones that have reached the Citadel

That might well be the criteria, although I suspect the Reapers might want to wipe out any star-faring race even if it didn't discover the Citadel, if only to preserve the secret of their existence.

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

I assume the Protheans observed most if not all of the different species in the galaxy during their reign of domination throughout.

I really hope that some strange twist is revealed in ME3, that involves what the Protheans may have done to one or more other species during their reign, that had a lasting influence, other than what has already been revealed.


ooh, a twist could be effective if it comes from an inspired place, and not just for shock value. The pieces are there for it because they've arguably kept us in the dark about alot of the details surrounding the Protheans, Keepers, and Reapers themselves.

It would be somewhat better than an ending set up where they have us either choose to destroy the Citadel (and give up its vast technology), or simply purge it of Keepers (but risk another cycle) because its innaccesible core starts churning out  Reaper indocrinated ones...

random ending I just spewed out......don't mind me.....:whistle:......*goes back to writing quickfics*

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yorkj86 wrote...

I'd also be angry if it turned out that the Asari were created by the Protheans, or the Reapers.  The Protheans were observing primitive humans, but creating species?


I think it's the most plausible example for why Asari look so much like humans, as well as their very weird reproductive process.  I've got a pet theory that says that the Asari are descended from humans abducted off of earth in prehistoric times and genetically modified to be the way they are, probably in the the hopes of creating a species capable of founding and preserving a multispecies galactic civilization (remember, the Protheans were the only spacefaring race of their time period, and we have no evidence to believe that there were every any times with as many spacefaring races as the current in-universe timeline).  It also explains why they got to the Citadel first, and why their lifespan is so long (animals tend not to evolve lifespans like that in relation to the orbital period of their home planet, at least on earth, if they aren't cold-blooded.).  But then again, the writers and designers might have just been looking for an excuse for sexy psychic blue chicks, and weren't thinking about it as hard as I am.  Which is fine.

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I'd at least not hate your theory, Terraneaux, if I wasn't so sure it would have been concocted/retconned long after the design and creation of the species. The ME1 art book states, straight away, that the Asari were designed to be sexy alien chicks.

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So... how long have we been off topic? Returning to topic...

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Terraneaux wrote...

 I've got a pet theory that says that the Asari are descended from humans abducted off of earth in prehistoric times and genetically modified to be the way they are, probably in the the hopes of creating a species capable of founding and preserving a multispecies galactic civilization (remember, the Protheans were the only spacefaring race of their time period, and we have no evidence to believe that there were every any times with as many spacefaring races as the current in-universe timeline).  

So far the most we know that existed at the same time was 2. A couple of planets describe a space war between two species, but the names escape me at this point. IIRC it doesn't mention the time frame, so it might have been during the prothean era, but whenever the prothean timeline galaxy is mentioned, it's referred to as the prothean empire. 

 As you said, the writers were probably just throwing in fan service when they made the asari. You're idea makes a lot of sense though, and if bioware uses it I won't be mad. The protheans made direct contact with early humans to implant their brains, so they probably toke a few. How else would you create an implant that would work? I always had a thought in my mind that humans were created by the protheans as a future weapons against the reapers (by making us resilient, quick to power in the citadel, etc.) but that has little or no evidence. 

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NICKjnp wrote...

So... how long have we been off topic? Returning to topic...
*snip*

Dem eyes. That is all I can think of thats relevant. I just played Conviction for four straight hours. Awesome game.

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To add, I'd rather that the asari not be some genetic variation of humans, since we already have too many elements of "humans are special" as it is, in the game.

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Here's an art update:

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yorkj86 wrote...

Here's an art update:

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Nice... I'm assuming that the artist used Sheploo (or the back of him) as his representation of Shepard.  Correct?

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Yeah, I always put default Sheploo in my commissioned art, to be as Shepard-neutral as possible.

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The uh, "space", looks nice.