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[DOYOURLABS]

I hate when that happens. It was probably a picture of Samara as a maiden.

[DOYOURLABS]

 My first double post. 

Modifié par DOYOURLABS, 05 août 2010 - 03:58 .

[Kudara]

kelmar6821 wrote...

Is it just me or does most samara fanart not get the face right?

It's not just you *sigh*

[axl99]

GODDAMITALL, editing removed the link....



http://www.biggiantc...wesome-fan-art/



Jimmy Hinson [biggiantcircles]'s blog. And if any of you don't know who that is, start listening to the ME2 soundtrack.

[NICKjnp]

axl99 wrote...

GODDAMITALL, editing removed the link....

http://www.biggiantc...wesome-fan-art/

Jimmy Hinson [biggiantcircles]'s blog. And if any of you don't know who that is, start listening to the ME2 soundtrack.

Just remember the little folk in the Samara thread when bioware hires you.. *wink* *wink*

[DOYOURLABS]

axl99 wrote...

GODDAMITALL, editing removed the link....

http://www.biggiantc...wesome-fan-art/

Jimmy Hinson [biggiantcircles]'s blog. And if any of you don't know who that is, start listening to the ME2 soundtrack.

*Is jealous*

[axl99]

yorkj86 wrote...

Hey, congratulations. Of course, this means that if you get hired by Bioware, you'll have to smuggle us any and all information you can find about Samara in ME3.

Isn't that what the PR department and Christina's twitter feed is for?

[NICKjnp]

For now... but when you get hired... that is what we will be expecting from you.

[7Makaveli]

axl99 wrote...

GODDAMITALL, editing removed the link....

http://www.biggiantc...wesome-fan-art/

Jimmy Hinson [biggiantcircles]'s blog. And if any of you don't know who that is, start listening to the ME2 soundtrack.

I am blown away by your awesomenes madame. Kudos.

I think the problem people may have with drawing Samara's face is the inclination to give female characters the standard pointy jaw. They then combine that with their perceived plainness of her face, which is influenced by the fact that she does not offer much in the way of facial expressions, leading them to underestimate the characteristics of her face, when in fact I think it is quite expressive albiet in a nuanced way. All this leads the artists to draw a face quite a bit different from what she actually looks like, as it is drawn with an internal point of view, rather than external.



*picks up axe and runs out*

[7Makaveli]

Agreed. There is some very beautiful women with strong jaw lines. Jussayin'

[axl99]

I love me some strong women.

[7Makaveli]

Samara, to me, is the strong woman archetype in ME, more specifically the strong mother. But in an odd twist of fate instead of protecting her children, she's hunting one down. And somehow it just works even though the archetypical structure of it is flipped upside down somewhat. She has to rise not only be a stronger mother, by doing what she had to do, but also a stronger protector, by making herself vulnerable to not one, but two dire consequences, her life or her daughter's. Quite an ironic form of justice, almost unfair if you look at it from a less pure stance.

EDIT: I dunno if I'm making sense anymore, but its only cause I'm multitasking, I tend to do that

Modifié par 7Makaveli, 05 août 2010 - 05:31 .

[SpaceBuscuit]

7Makaveli wrote...

Samara, to me, is the strong woman archetype in ME, more specifically the strong mother. But in an odd twist of fate instead of protecting her children, she's hunting one down. And somehow it just works even though the archetypical structure of it is flipped upside down somewhat. She has to rise not only be a stronger mother, by doing what she had to do, but also a stronger protector, by making herself vulnerable to not one, but two dire consequences, her life or her daughter's. Quite an ironic form of justice, almost unfair if you look at it from a less pure stance.

EDIT: I dunno if I'm making sense anymore, but its only cause I'm multitasking, I tend to do that

I always got the impression that Samara felt that killing Morinth was a way of redeeming herself. As though it was a stain on her intergrity and on that of the daughter who had to bear the curse she forced upon her. In some way, she saw killing her as a loving, motherly act, and her responsibility.She is of an alien culture after all, I and enjoyed this exploration of vastly alien values.

[7Makaveli]

SpaceBuscuit wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

Samara, to me, is the strong woman archetype in ME, more specifically the strong mother. But in an odd twist of fate instead of protecting her children, she's hunting one down. And somehow it just works even though the archetypical structure of it is flipped upside down somewhat. She has to rise not only be a stronger mother, by doing what she had to do, but also a stronger protector, by making herself vulnerable to not one, but two dire consequences, her life or her daughter's. Quite an ironic form of justice, almost unfair if you look at it from a less pure stance.

EDIT: I dunno if I'm making sense anymore, but its only cause I'm multitasking, I tend to do that

I always got the impression that Samara felt that killing Morinth was a way of redeeming herself. As though it was a stain on her intergrity and on that of the daughter who had to bear the curse she forced upon her. In some way, she saw killing her as a loving, motherly act, and her responsibility.She is of an alien culture after all, I and enjoyed this exploration of vastly alien values.

It does have a bit of alien philosophy if not strictly Asari philosophy to it. I cannot imagine a human in the same position taking the same actions as Samara, or even Morinth for that matter.

[7Makaveli]

All we can do is offset with human values, where the major difference is that we would lean towards catharsis rather than..you know, obliterating the other from existence. Although sometimes I'm not even sure...

[Ashira Shepard]

Eleven hours without a word spoken...



Something is wrong here.



Relevant post!







*fangirl crai*

[Siansonea]

7Makaveli wrote...

SpaceBuscuit wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

Samara, to me, is the strong woman archetype in ME, more specifically the strong mother. But in an odd twist of fate instead of protecting her children, she's hunting one down. And somehow it just works even though the archetypical structure of it is flipped upside down somewhat. She has to rise not only be a stronger mother, by doing what she had to do, but also a stronger protector, by making herself vulnerable to not one, but two dire consequences, her life or her daughter's. Quite an ironic form of justice, almost unfair if you look at it from a less pure stance.

EDIT: I dunno if I'm making sense anymore, but its only cause I'm multitasking, I tend to do that

I always got the impression that Samara felt that killing Morinth was a way of redeeming herself. As though it was a stain on her intergrity and on that of the daughter who had to bear the curse she forced upon her. In some way, she saw killing her as a loving, motherly act, and her responsibility.She is of an alien culture after all, I and enjoyed this exploration of vastly alien values.

It does have a bit of alien philosophy if not strictly Asari philosophy to it. I cannot imagine a human in the same position taking the same actions as Samara, or even Morinth for that matter.

I can imagine a human in Samara's position. Imagine how the parents of Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, etc. must have felt. Presumably the parent of a serial killer might feel that their child's death is a necessary thing, though of course in the real world such things would be left to the authorities. Of course in the ME universe, Samara IS the authorities.

[Ashira Shepard]

yorkj86 wrote...
I think that's partially right. Artists can't reconcile several things, when drawing Samara. They can't reconcile a very strong jawline with a character who appears to be female. They can't reconcile a female character not having distinctly feminine features, whatever that means. They can't reconcile the way Samara's face is uniform in its structure. They don't want to draw her with a block face, so they just go with the pointed chin, which is apparently feminine.

I really do hate when others try to change a character's appearance to what they think a female should look like. Everyone has different tastes.

Though mine seem to be at both ends of the scope, I find Samara very attractive; but the same goes for this young woman. Link is kind of NSFW

[Ashira Shepard]

Siansonea II wrote...
I can imagine a human in Samara's position. Imagine how the parents of Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, etc. must have felt. Presumably the parent of a serial killer might feel that their child's death is a necessary thing, though of course in the real world such things would be left to the authorities. Of course in the ME universe, Samara IS the authorities.

When I told my mother about Samara, and the story around her (because I knew she would have some reaction to it) the first thing she said, genuinely, was "What a good mother." Because my mother isn't that strong, and she's told me before that if I ever killed she would help me hide the bodies, purely on the grounds that she doesn't want anyone to hurt me in spite of what I might have done.

So there's one human parental view point.

Then again my mother is crazy about her children, but what mother isn't to some varying degree?