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[DOYOURLABS]

I'm going with the warp explanation about Reave. IIRC biotics work in three ways, increasing mass, decreasing mass, and warp. How dominate works is beyond me. Is it ever clarified it was a biotic power?

[DOYOURLABS]

And Heavy Reave, especially on casual, can be a one hit kill. It doesn't get the cool animation when shield/barrier/armor is up, but it does alot of damage.

[7Makaveli]

AshiraShepard wrote...

Healing the Broken

Highly recommended to romance-hopeful Samaritans (and everyone else too) :happy:

Modifié par 7Makaveli, 11 septembre 2010 - 04:39 .

[Terraneaux]

DOYOURLABS wrote...

And Heavy Reave, especially on casual, can be a one hit kill. It doesn't get the cool animation when shield/barrier/armor is up, but it does alot of damage.

But you get the cool 'I'm draining your life energy!' animation.  And it incapacitates.

[Ashira Shepard]

You can't see most enemies face when you get thatdrain life animation, but you can just tell they're going "AH SH*T!"

[adriano_c]

Flamewielder wrote...

She needed from the Justicars something that was essential in her hunt for Morinth; something she lacked and I think this was resolve. Resolve to kill her eldest child. Resolve she knew she lacked without the cold steel of the Code as her backbone.

Good answer.

[Terraneaux]

adriano_c wrote...

Flamewielder wrote...

She needed from the Justicars something that was essential in her hunt for Morinth; something she lacked and I think this was resolve. Resolve to kill her eldest child. Resolve she knew she lacked without the cold steel of the Code as her backbone.

Good answer.

Or it was a way for her to psychologically defer responsibility for it.

[adriano_c]

Good answer, too!

[Ashira Shepard]

yorkj86 wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

Highly recommended to romance-hopeful Samaritans (and everyone else too) :happy:

Agreed.  I like that Shepard removed Samara's forehead doodads for intimacy.  Ashira really made it clear that Shepard feels intimidated and dwarfed by Samara, which is great.

How hearing such things make me feel->

  Booyah.

[Flamewielder]

Terraneaux wrote...

DOYOURLABS wrote...

And Heavy Reave, especially on casual, can be a one hit kill. It doesn't get the cool animation when shield/barrier/armor is up, but it does alot of damage.

But you get the cool 'I'm draining your life energy!' animation.  And it incapacitates.

And incapacitated enemies remain stationary and rise out of cover... BOOM! Headshot!

I've found Reave an excellent complement for an Infiltrator, who's already got Disruptor Ammo against Shield (Reave's only weakness). It gives the class balance.

[Flamewielder]

Terraneaux wrote...

adriano_c wrote...

Flamewielder wrote...
She needed from the Justicars something that was essential in her hunt for Morinth; something she lacked and I think this was resolve. Resolve to kill her eldest child. Resolve she knew she lacked without the cold steel of the Code as her backbone.

Good answer.

Or it was a way for her to psychologically defer responsibility for it.

Perhaps, but the grief she expresses post facto suggests she fully accepts responsibility for Morinth's death even when she knew it was the only way it could end... The appeal of black & white characters is that they can never be totaly black or white: only their ideals can be and their reach always exceeds their grasp. They are classic tragic figures and when so much of asari culture & society appears inspired by idealized ancien Greece, casting an asari in that role kinda made sense...

...and selecting her as the biotic specialist in the final mission gives her a fine aristeia!

Of course, not everyone's a fan of Homer or Sophocles... so I don't begrudge anyone for their choice of favorite character. Badasseness comes in many colors and flavors, especially when aliens are involved!

[Terraneaux]

Flamewielder wrote...

Perhaps, but the grief she expresses post facto suggests she fully accepts responsibility for Morinth's death even when she knew it was the only way it could end... The appeal of black & white characters is that they can never be totaly black or white: only their ideals can be and their reach always exceeds their grasp. They are classic tragic figures and when so much of asari culture & society appears inspired by idealized ancien Greece, casting an asari in that role kinda made sense...

...and selecting her as the biotic specialist in the final mission gives her a fine aristeia!

Of course, not everyone's a fan of Homer or Sophocles... so I don't begrudge anyone for their choice of favorite character. Badasseness comes in many colors and flavors, especially when aliens are involved!

Well, I think I've stated previously that Samara is one of my least favorite characters in the game, so I was being a little petty with that last comment.  I'd just like to mention, though, that Samara's character draws more from shonen anime than anything as heady as greek tragedy.  Antigone she ain't.

[Flamewielder]

Terraneaux wrote...
Well, I think I've stated previously that Samara is one of my least favorite characters in the game, so I was being a little petty with that last comment.  I'd just like to mention, though, that Samara's character draws more from shonen anime than anything as heady as greek tragedy.  Antigone she ain't.

She certainly isn't...  But anguish caused by a clash between one's duty and one's feeling makes for good drama. And Samara's inner conflicts and the topic of infanticide are more typical of seinen anime than the childish shonen...

[DOYOURLABS]

yorkj86 wrote...

So, there are only a handful of Justicars left. Do we think that the Justicar Order still even formerly exists, such that it could train new Justicars? If so, and even in that case, would anyone have any interest in joining? Is Samara the Last Justicar?

I'm sure it still formerly exists, since Samara can kill anyone. Also, Samara is bad at numbers. She says there was only 3 AY, but there is a whole monastery of them and 1% of the asari population is on the spectrum. So "handful" might be an exaggeration. I think people that have to redeem themselves/hunt someone would still join the justicars. Maybe even asari that feel more justice should be brought to the galaxy.

[adriano_c]

yorkj86 wrote...

asari civilization being Greek-themed

Care to elaborate?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

adriano_c wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

asari civilization being Greek-themed

Care to elaborate?

Could imagine it being that they still have city states on Thessia, them being all philosophical and so on.

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[Flamewielder]

DOYOURLABS wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...
So, there are only a handful of Justicars left. Do we think that the Justicar Order still even formerly exists, such that it could train new Justicars? If so, and even in that case, would anyone have any interest in joining? Is Samara the Last Justicar?

I'm sure it still formerly exists, since Samara can kill anyone. Also, Samara is bad at numbers. She says there was only 3 AY, but there is a whole monastery of them and 1% of the asari population is on the spectrum. So "handful" might be an exaggeration. I think people that have to redeem themselves/hunt someone would still join the justicars. Maybe even asari that feel more justice should be brought to the galaxy.

In all fairness to Samara's arithmetic skills, she's probably referring to the small minority of A-Y that developed the dangerous "vampiric" trait. While the Codex states the A-Y trait expresses itself in 1% of the asari population, it also states that the "vampiric" cases are extreme examples. Only these extreme cases are actually isolated (sadly suggesting that all three of Samara's children were diagnosed with this extreme variety).

Going back to my parallel between A-Y and dementia, the Codex actually describes it as psychopathy, still a mental illness. So I can easily imagine her two socially challenged daughters describing a mental institution as "a dank prison"... One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" come to mind...

As for the number of Justicars in the Order, I'm leaning towards a relatively small number, perhaps a few hundreds in the whole of asari space. Samara suggests the institution is a throwback from another era and that few asari feel any inclination to join such an extremely conservative group, especially if, say,  30-40% of applicants die during training... I don't think such absolute dedication to justice is THAT common among asari. If an asari is attracted to law enforcement, there's lots of "normal", less hazardous agencies in which to make a career...

[Flamewielder]

adriano_c wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...
asari civilization being Greek-themed

Care to elaborate?

Quoted from Codex: "...The asari came late to the concept of world government. For centuries, their homeworld of Thessia was dotted with loose confederacies of great republican cities. The closest Earthly equivalent would be the ancient Mediterranean city-states. Since the asari culture values consensus and accommodation, there was little impetus to form larger principalities. Rather than hoard resources, the asari bartered freely. Rather than attack one another over differing philosophies, they sought to understand one another. Only in the information age did the city-states grow close..."

Democratic/republican city-states where a hallmark of ancient Greece, Illium was the greek name for Troy, Thessia (derived from the ancient Greece region of Thessaly) is the name of a butterfly from the genus Hesperidae (from Hesperides, the greek name for the nymphs of the evening)... So Greek-themed, both in-game and meta-game.

[adriano_c]

Not read the codices myself.



Anyway, so, there's some similarity in civic structure (and overall group identity)...



It's splitting hairs, perhaps, but saying it has "some Greek themes or influences" might have been more appropriate than it being "Greek-themed" which I take as broader and more inclusive to a variety of facets of Greek civ.



*throws worthless Hellenic studies certificate in the trash*