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[Flamewielder]

That's how I see it as well. I suspect that a Justicar likely concerns herself with more serious injustices. A jaywalker will jaywalk until such a day he/she gets hit by a vehicle and the universe will have taken care of it... And a police officer would simply fine you for such an offence, hoping that the cost will enlighten you about the risks you are takin; Justicars, as Samara explains, do not seek to enlighten, they simply punish the unjust. You street race at 130 km/h in a school zone, Samara may attempt to stop you with her biotics and give you a good scare... but run over an innocent child in a reckless and irresponsible race and your ass is grass, buddy!

Samara states that they are often called upon by citizens to adjudicate some legal issues, commenting that her judgement is rarely what they expected (as one can see in any TV-court program when plaintiffs and/or defendants have no prior experience with the justice system... The judge will quickly focus on the crucial elements/facts, ignoring whatever excuse or argument either party wanted to present.

Samara consciously sacrificed compassion and empathy for the resolve she needed to do what had to be done: destroy Morinth before she killed another innocent. And the death of Morinth still broke her heart, in spite of its necessity (and perhaps somehow because of it). Sociopathy is a lack of empathy, which is what A-Y's are afflicted by. Can a prison guard be accused of sociopathy because he refuses to chat with his prisonners? Or is he maintaining this distance because it allows him to remain impartial and treat detainees equally? If a police officer intervenes during an armed robbery, is he gonna stop the robber through his pleasant disposition? Chances are the threat of force will have to be used, if not force itself.

Some countries still use the death penalty, others don't. Is death preferable to a life in a supermax institution? Only the the convict really can say... Society chooses one or the other depending on how liberal or conservative its values are. Asari seem to have drawn the line at premeditated murder and perhaps only in cases where the individual is irredeemable (as with addicted Ardat-Yakshi).

Modifié par Flamewielder, 16 septembre 2010 - 03:23 .

[7Makaveli]

yorkj86 wrote...

I call this one, "Samara Accidentally Punches Herself in the Face".

That particular moment was awkward, the close up, it almost look liked she was posing. Maybe she knew the camera was there and was putting on a performance to be put into those Justicar vids

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So..how did that discussion go? Do people still think Samara is a mindless killer? And that she's the ying to Morinth's yang?

[Yana Montana]

Have you, guys, seen this amazing photoshop?







by Fantaisie-Triste

[ADLegend21]

Whoa...that's amazing!

[Kudara]

Yea, I saw that a few days ago. It is pretty amazing.

[DOYOURLABS]

My Shepard can pass on laziness. Samara asked my Shepard why he slept in so long, and he said "I can focus more with more sleep." and now she's always asleep on the couch.

[MrCasperTom]

Can Samara pick up sarcastic wit and punchtothefacecausetheywontshutup...ism?

[MrCasperTom]

Well I think, for mine at least, the traits differ from those not shared. I've always seen my main shep (Femshep for the record) as a solitary, closed-off individual, tis how I RP her. Her background also helps tie into this and then, the one place she can call home in a very long time is taken away from her and she dies, only to come back to find out most of those who she believed in gave up on her without even a fight, turned their back on her when she came back and then the one organisation that stuck by her did so with their own agenda and ultimately placed her in a position she had to effectively fight out of, you're going to be a solitary, closed off one, which is how I see Samara really.



That might be why she was drawn to Samara really, for there was another individual who held their own hurt inside them, hidden from the world but then showed Kiara that you can let it out and you can resolve it, even if only to a few.



So really I think the traits that Kiara might pass on to Samara is to show her that even with your own pain locked up inside you don't have to isolate youself from the world as there are those who you can stand with, regardless of it all.



Plus you know the sarcasm and the general annoyance at long tedious talks and rants when one can just do far more good by getting right to the point.

[Flamewielder]

Board acting up... triple post!

Modifié par Flamewielder, 17 septembre 2010 - 02:42 .

[Flamewielder]

My "canon" Shepard is male, was raised a spacer and became a war hero. He's paragon, because it's the answer that comes to me naturally. Perhaps because it is easier to follow the path of virtue in a fictional world than reality...

Samara and my Shepard enjoy a nice game of chess (Shepard taught Samara and is now losing 3 out of 4 games... justicars are quick study). They usually play around 2100 hours (ship time), after sergeant Garner has closed the mess. They usually play 2-3 games, discussing ethics, human and asari history and comparing their respective cultures. Dr. Chakwas sometimes joins them in discussion, sharing a drink with Shepard (Samara sometimes has a glass of juice).

Samara usually retires first. When she does, Shepard and Chakwas have a toast to their fallen friends of the Blitz; if Chakwas didn't doze off during the game. When she does, Shepard fetches a pillow and sheet for her, tucks her old friend in before heading up to his cabin.

[Flamewielder]

Double post

Modifié par Flamewielder, 17 septembre 2010 - 12:23 .

[Kudara]

Ah that's sweet Flame, sounds like a nice evening to sit down and just watch the chess match and listen.



I don't think my Samara and Shepard really have anything yet besides working out together in the mornings. But then storywise they've really only been around each other for just over a week so maybe that's not so surprising.

[Ashira Shepard]

yorkj86 wrote...

We need Ashira in here for her response. She has a very strong sense of who her Shepard is.

This may be true, it doesn't mean I know what Samara would pick up from my Shepard though XD

She already meditates. Hmm, tae kwon do? Conversations about different combat styles among humans and asari while sparing? I'm unsure to be honest but that's what comes to me first.

I've not thought of my Shepard in regards to hobbies, I just know that she drinks JD, practices tae kwon do, meditates and listens to rock. Not specifically in that order

Interesting seeing everyone elses responses though ^^ I can picture them quite easily

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 17 septembre 2010 - 02:58 .

[Pacifien]

I don't know, Samara doesn't necessarily answer to the judgement of lesser law officials. She'd have killed them to continue on her mission against Morinth. If jailing Shepard is an injustice to her, she'd break him out. She will come for him.

[7Makaveli]

Yana Montana wrote...

Have you, guys, seen this amazing photoshop?



by Fantaisie-Triste

That's pretty cool.

ahem...

Rigidity of Justicar Code makes her movements and mission outcomes predictable

- SB Dossier

For some reason this made me think of agencies that might keep tabs on Justicar movements, and possibly plotting to eliminate them. Its not out of the question that there might be groups of Asari that despise the Order and everything the Code stands for, so maybe they've taken steps to target Justicars and attempt to assasinate them. I wonder if Samara has stepped into such a trap, possibly out of the blue having a trained vigilante try to take her out because some establishment wants to protect their interests or has been hired by certain extremist groups.

Thoughts, comments, bueller?

[Flamewielder]

7Makaveli wrote...
Rigidity of Justicar Code makes her movements and mission outcomes predictable

- SB Dossier

For some reason this made me think of agencies that might keep tabs on Justicar movements, and possibly plotting to eliminate them. Its not out of the question that there might be groups of Asari that despise the Order and everything the Code stands for, so maybe they've taken steps to target Justicars and attempt to assasinate them. I wonder if Samara has stepped into such a trap, possibly out of the blue having a trained vigilante try to take her out because some establishment wants to protect their interests or has been hired by certain extremist groups.

Thoughts, comments, bueller?

Even legitimate asari intelligence agencies will have put together a plan to eliminate a potential Justicar threat. It's a normal part of contingency planning in any organization. If the Order ever becomes hostile to the asari government, these agencies have to have at least an outline for an action plan.

That opens the door to abuse by corrupt politicians, endoctrinated bureaucrats and government agents (like Saren), etc... Justicars and their Order are far from invulnerable. Lots of scenario potential there for ME3, with or without Samara as a squaddie.

And I agree with you Mak: fringe vigilantes have likely tried it more than once. However, a full-fledged government crack down on the Order would have wiped the Justicars out eventually, overwhelming them by sheer number if nothing else.

[Captain Iglo]

Hey guys...am also a big Samara Fan.

Dunno if ya think the same...but talking to Samara is somehow extremely relaxing...if my Shep needs to lay down a bit or needs to calm his nervs then he goes to have a chat with Samara.