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[Flamewielder]

yorkj86 wrote...

Kudara wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...
They could adopt?  Or am I missing the point?  The child wouldn't genetically be his/her own, anyway (herp derp asari genetics) (apparently having children who are genetically related to one's self is a big deal for some people).

I believe Justicars foreswear children and a family, meaning that Samara can't settle down to help raise any children Shepard might have or adopt.

I thought we were assuming that Samara would stop Justicar'ing, in this scenario.  I assumed wrong.
As for parents preferring to have a genetic relation to their child, I can understand that.  I wasn't looking down my nose at those people.  Some people prefer to adopt, though, because there are existent children out there who need parents.

Yes, I realise that was unclear in my post. I am assuming that Justicars sign up for life (i.e. no retirement). I was wondering under what circumstances the Code would allow romantic involvement, given that Justicars cannot have a family. I think Ashira has a pretty good picture of it.

In the case of my Shepard, any family he'd have would probably be with Ashley. Being a spacer, he'd likely raise his kids on a ship while Ash pursued her military carreer to its conclusion. I had this image of Shepard laying a flower on Ashley's grave on Terra Nova, twin son and daughter (mid twenties) in their navy uniforms. Shepard's hair is streaked with grey but he still looks fit. He hugs his children in turn as they leave and stays a moment longer. A lone figure approaches, it is Samara in her black uniform.

Samara: "I have secured passage on the "Path to Prosperity". Her captain is an honorable woman."
Shepard: "The twins understand my decision. They know I couldn't bear staying in that house any longer... and Ash understands it too, I think." <smiling faintly>
Samara: "Do we need to pick up anything?"
Shepard: "No... <opens the aircar's trunk, pointing to a large black military-issue duffle bag> arms and armor... I knew we'd be traveling light."
Samara <smiles kindly>: "You remembered correctly... Are you sure this is what you want? In a way, you'll be subsumating your life to me and the Code..."
Shepard <taps the headstone gently> "I've mourned Ash long enough I think... She'd be kicking my sorry ass out of the house if she saw me moping any longer... I miss the feeling of deckplates under my feet. And punishing the wicked is as good a way to spend my twilight years as any."
Samara: "Then let us head for the spaceport. I have missed your company these last 30 years..."

[7Makaveli]

Flamewielder wrote...

Samara: "I have secured passage on the "Path to Prosperity". Her captain is an honorable woman."
Shepard: "The twins understand my decision. They know I couldn't bear staying in that house any longer... and Ash understands it too, I think."
Samara: "Do we need to pick up anything?"
Shepard: "No... arms and armor... I knew we'd be traveling light."
Samara : "You remembered correctly... Are you sure this is what you want? In a way, you'll be subsumating your life to me and the Code..."
Shepard "I've mourned Ash long enough I think... She'd be kicking my sorry ass out of the house if she saw me moping any longer... I miss the feeling of deckplates under my feet. And punishing the wicked is as good a way to spend my twilight years as any."
Samara: "Then let us head for the spaceport. I have missed your company these last 30 years..."

This is a really intriguing scenario you've cooked up, Flame. I was thinking of doing a future Samara/Shep fanfic similar to this back in my Fic writing days lol, but it never came to fruition. But it is genuinely plausible to see Samara coming for Shepard in this way, where he needs to find strength in his convictions similar to how Samara once did. I can see an older Shepard and a Matriarch Samara doing anything from being engaged in philosophical banter to peacefully meditating, when they're not laying down the Code of course

[Absurd]

yorkj86 wrote...
As for parents preferring to have a genetic relation to their child, I can understand that.  I wasn't looking down my nose at those people.

Nah, there is nothing to understand except simple nature's laws. It's absolutely nothing more than genetic programming, designed to prolong existance of a species. Whole life in universe is build that way, it has to, otherwise it would end very quickly.
I was wondering why the hell people don't just adopt kids from orphanages which are full of same, beautiful children but instead they have to have ones "from their blood". The fact that most people can only care about their own offspring proves there is no love, but chemistry. Yeah, I can't blame them, people don't have time and need to know it. But how much better world would be if we could go against our stupid nature, forgot about procreation (and spreading like a virus) and give these sad kids home.

Modifié par Absurd, 03 octobre 2010 - 02:38 .

[Kudara]

Flame that's a really really good short, you should publish it somewhere more people can read it. Yes you would probably want to work some on the intro, but the dialogue needs no work.

[7Makaveli]

yorkj86 wrote...

Kudara wrote...

Flame that's a really really good short, you should publish it somewhere more people can read it. Yes you would probably want to work some on the intro, but the dialogue needs no work.

I agree.   I'd love to read more, Flamewielder.  There's a ton of stuff you could write about, in that scenario. 

I think the important topic, though, is which one of them gets to say, first, in their very best Danny Glover voice, "I'm gettin' too old for this sh**"?

Well, I doubt Samara would be that classless, that line would be Shepard's whle Samara would say something like..

"I'm too aged to be concerned with these fecal matters..."

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[Siansonea]

7Makaveli wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Kudara wrote...

Flame that's a really really good short, you should publish it somewhere more people can read it. Yes you would probably want to work some on the intro, but the dialogue needs no work.

I agree.   I'd love to read more, Flamewielder.  There's a ton of stuff you could write about, in that scenario. 

I think the important topic, though, is which one of them gets to say, first, in their very best Danny Glover voice, "I'm gettin' too old for this sh**"?

Well, I doubt Samara would be that classless, that line would be Shepard's whle Samara would say something like..

"I'm too aged to be concerned with these fecal matters..."

Actually, Samara would say "Shepard, I fear that I am reaching the end of my useful life as a Justicar. I feel my reflexes and biotic abilities waning, and soon I will inevitably make a critical mistake, giving an adversary a momentary advantage that will end my life. If we do not speak again, Shepard, know that you have given me a great gift, and I shall find peace in the embrace of the Goddess with your name upon my lips."

[Ashira Shepard]

yorkj86 wrote...

@Flamewielder:

Pretty much this. That was beautiful.

[Ashira Shepard]

yorkj86 wrote...

Kudara wrote...

Flame that's a really really good short, you should publish it somewhere more people can read it. Yes you would probably want to work some on the intro, but the dialogue needs no work.

I agree.   I'd love to read more, Flamewielder.  There's a ton of stuff you could write about, in that scenario. 

I think the important topic, though, is which one of them gets to say, first, in their very best Danny Glover voice, "I'm gettin' too old for this sh**"?

Shepard: Getting too old for this sh*t...

Samara: Old? *slight smile*

Shepard: Relatively speaking. I could've had this done five minutes faster and suffer less about it later ten years ago.

*gunfire blasts overhead*

Shepard: And we wouldn't be stuck waiting for a break in their fire.

Samara: Well, if we are indeed "getting too old" - what do you suggest? You know there is no quiet ending for either of us.

Shepard: Eh, I don't know. Zimmer frames with guns attached?

[Flamewielder]

Mmm... fanfic writing might have to wait until my own twins are old enough to stop fighting over the same toys... But I'm glad you enjoyed the scenario.

But in that context, Samara's comment on "another life" could be taken as hyperbole: Samara wants Shepard to have a chance at family life, something she cannot/will not offer. But she has longevity, and would be more comfortable bonding with an older, "matriarchal" Shepard: exchanging memories of parenthood, understanding the sacrifices involved, both large and small.

Given human life expectancy is around 150 in the ME universe, I think a 50-60'ish Shepard will likely still strike a fine figure, even without the benefits of all that Lazarus biotech...

Modifié par Flamewielder, 03 octobre 2010 - 12:53 .

[Flamewielder]

AshiraShepard wrote...




Shepard: Getting too old for this sh*t...

Samara: Old? *slight smile*

Shepard: Relatively speaking. I could've had this done five minutes faster and suffer less about it later ten years ago.

*gunfire blasts overhead*

Shepard: And we wouldn't be stuck waiting for a break in their fire.

Samara: Well, if we are indeed "getting too old" - what do you suggest? You know there is no quiet ending for either of us.

Shepard: Eh, I don't know. Zimmer frames with guns attached?

<an Incisor stutters in the rafters overhead & there is a lull in the suppressive firing>

Familiar turian voice over comms: You're just lucky they don't have a gunship... get moving before I chamber some concussive rounds.

[Flamewielder]

yorkj86 wrote...
Another character fanbase survey was published.   Samara's where she is in most other surveys - ranging between the exact middle to slightly below the middle.

Wow... that survey killed the thread... I doubt it could have been your cologne or anything...

On a more serious and Samara-related topic, I was enjoying Zaeed Massani's only character-specific musical theme and noticed one of Samara's theme rising up at the end. The DLC uses mostly recycled themes from Thane's and Miranda's for combat sequences but there is one that is rather unique and that's the one used during the first face off with Vido (when Zaeed breaks the valve and sets off the fire). The only element borrowed from other tracks is Samara's, which, as luck would have it, evokes retribution (just, in Samara's case/revenge in Zaeed's case). A brief segment was also used in the cinematic reveals for Samara and Zaeed. It has no title, but I named it "Kill It with Fire" in hommage to Zaeed and the more humorous aspects of the Bioware forum... that and my penchant for heavy flamers and meltaguns in WH40K fiction.

Incidentaly, both Samara and Zaeed share mid-eastern etymology: Samara mening guardian, Zaeed (or Zaid) meaning lord or great one and a popular afghan first name. Sidh Massani being a minor hindu divinity.

Modifié par Flamewielder, 05 octobre 2010 - 12:51 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

yorkj86 wrote...

Need new DLC, please.  At least we'd have something to talk about.

Try to look at this picture of Samara and not smile:

Succeded in not smiling.... For one second!

Anyway. The Samara support thread needs more love.

[N085]

[quote]yorkj86 wrote...

Need new DLC, please.  At least we'd have something to talk about.

Try to look at this picture of Samara and not smile[quote]

I managed about 2 seconds! lol

[Ashira Shepard]

I straightened my face, looked...



And didn't last even a second XD

[Flamewielder]

yorkj86 wrote...

Need new DLC, please.  At least we'd have something to talk about.
<snip>

Indeed... our friends at Bioware have been awfully quiet lately. Maybe the DLC team is enjoying some R&R after releasing LotSB... or they're working on something big. It'd be nice to have a peek into Maggie Baird's agenda...

[Kudara]

I would be highly surprised if a Kaidan/Ashley dlc was not on the agenda. Actually I'd be shocked if it wasn't given that we just had a Liara one. That may take them a few months though because it will have to be up to the quality of LoSB.

[DirtyVagrant]

It could be possible that Bioware wants to save Kaidan/Ashley reconciliation for ME3. Though I hope not, while they're not my favorite squad mates, the Virmire survivor could still use some love; some moments to make people appreciate and think they're badass. And to be on topic, it'd be nice to take Samara on another adventure, not that she'll say anything during it besides the standard battle phrases but maybe the survivor will have an opinion on Shep's new squad (i.e Samara) or they'll be something akin to the Broker's files.

Modifié par DirtyVagrant, 06 octobre 2010 - 03:33 .