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Siansonea II wrote...

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Mmm... yes, eyes, facial structure, in her 40's (and a mom)... would the voice be a good match as well? Her "feminine attributes" are also more... modest... than Christina Hendricks, which might allow viewers to focus on the character's personality more than the obvious visual... er...distraction?

I think Melinda would benefit from being a mom and of "matron" age herself, to appreciate the tragedy and give the character the required emoptional depth.
www.melindaclarke.org/images/Melinda-Clarke-Picture.jpg

More than likely Movie Magic/"chicken cutlets" would be used to Samara-ize the actress' bosom if she doesn't happen to have the requisite curves. :D

Actually, I saw another image of Melinda that likely came from the Xena series... but figured I'd post a "general audiences" one as the other was quite... er... distracting. I'll simply say that I don't think Melinda lacks anything in the... ah... figure department? She'd still look the part without any movie magic/biotic touching-up. Image IPB

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And for your reading enjoyment, a post-SM friendly renegade Shep/Samara epilogue I wrote for another thread:

*A damaged Normandy docks at Omega*

*Thane Krios exits the Normandy, cooly walks to the main concourse and grabs a female bystander, putting a gun to her head and dragging her back to the dock entrance*

Thane: "Shhhh... I'd stay calm if I were you..."

*Samara and Shepard exit the Normandy*

Shepard: "You said you wanted to return to Omega... said you could do good here."
Samara: "Then my Oath to you is concluded." *readies Reave"
Shepard: "Tut-tut!" *points out Krios and the hostage at the end of the hall* "We'll be leaving now. Please look after Nef's mother..."

*Airlock seals, docking clamps are released, the Normandy departs.*

*Samara turns towards the end of the hall. As she expected, the hostage is alone, cumpled in a trembling lump against the wall... shaken, but unarmed. The shadows have swallowed Krios... for the last time.*

*Turning her gaze to the fast fading star of the Normandy's drives, as it traces its course to the mass relay.*

Samara: "Well played Shepard... Goodbye. And good luck..."

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Samara's no danger to Shep's crew, unless said crew deliberately tried to provoke something. In which case, I'll mix myself a drink in Kasumi's bar, put in one of them funky pink parasol things and watch the chaos on the docks thru armored portholes. If any of the crew are stupid enough to try and start something with Samara, they deserve whatever lumps they get.Image IPB


I get the feeling that, due to this misunderstanding some individuals have of Samara, Justicars, and the Code, they think that Samara being onboard the Normandy would play out almost identically to the "office room judgment" scene in "Dogma."  That's not quite how it works.

Modifié par yorkj86, 10 février 2011 - 03:56 .


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Mind you, some Samara fans turn a blind eye on some of the ethical problems created by Justicars; while paragons are generally law-abiding, they are also free to temper this with compassion (like getting Kolyat off the hook for attempted murder), something a Justicar might not be able to do. The Lawful Neutral vs Lawful Good analogy is still relevant.

Samara's appreciation of Nihlus' use of the Code to stop her suggests that Samara may also be proficient at finding "loopholes" in a Lawful Neutral Code to serve a Lawful Good agenda... She's nothing if not smart.

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xRAYZ0Rx wrote...

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I have a question for you all. Exactly how old is Samara? In the game she says she is nearly 1,000 but [link] http://masseffect.bi...e/squad/samara/ [/link] says she's around 600.


Honestly i think 600 would be too young to put her at. As she constantly is reminding Shepard she is near 1000 years old.  Insinuating that she'd be more near 1000, I'd say around 800ish. because considering Morinth was 440 (atleast) when we met up with her at Omega, (considering she ran away at age 40, and Samara has been pursuing her for 400 years) and Samara didnt have children till the Matron stage (around 350 years old).

Edit: Btw, since Samara has told us she melds very rarely with anyone, we can assume that even though 700 is typical age for Matriarchs, she may have suppressed this by not melding frequently. The same goes for Matron stage though I'm not positive about how Samara acted in her Matron stage other than her discovery of her combat abilities.


"Morinth's continuous use of her condition over centuries allowed her to
match Samara's power and experience, despite the 600 year difference
between them.
"

Just found that on Mass Effect Wiki. So maybe Samara is actually 1000. or maybe the site is wrong. Im not sure.

cough cough
My Samara Fan Fic
cough need criticism cough cough

Modifié par xRAYZ0Rx, 11 février 2011 - 04:22 .


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I don't remember seeing this one posted on the thread before. Definitely not realist, but cute and well drawn:

http://browse.devian...set=48#/d32cm1i

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After completing Samara's loyalty mission, you can ask her about Morinth's claim that she is the genetic destiny of the asari, to which Samara replies, "that doesn't seem very viable on account of Ardat-Yakshi's being sterile." What if Morinth was right, just not in the way we think she meant, as every other species seems to find the asari sexually disirable, so there would be no shortage of potential victims if for whatever reason we saw a significant rise in Ardat Yakshi's, the asari would go from being the favourite to being shunned and ostracized, as there is no way to differentiate between a normal asari and an Ardat Yakshi. The fear mongers would have a field day with this, people would already be on edge, with all the news reports about suspicious deaths and such, it would be a melting pot of fear and revulsion which could explode at any moment. 

So to bring it back on topic, what do you think Samara's reaction to this would be? Her main purpose for becoming a Justicar was to hunt down Morinth, and with that done, she plans to hunt for other Ardat Yakshi's. Would Samara trudge on, or stick by Shepard? I'm sure the Commander would be making a serious effort to figure out what the hecks going on, but maybe there wouldn't be any answers. Also, if Samara chose the "hunt them all down" route, would that even be possible, since it was hard enough to track down Morinth, and she was only one.  

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GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

After completing Samara's loyalty mission, you can ask her about Morinth's claim that she is the genetic destiny of the asari, to which Samara replies, "that doesn't seem very viable on account of Ardat-Yakshi's being sterile." What if Morinth was right, just not in the way we think she meant, as every other species seems to find the asari sexually disirable, so there would be no shortage of potential victims if for whatever reason we saw a significant rise in Ardat Yakshi's, the asari would go from being the favourite to being shunned and ostracized, as there is no way to differentiate between a normal asari and an Ardat Yakshi. The fear mongers would have a field day with this, people would already be on edge, with all the news reports about suspicious deaths and such, it would be a melting pot of fear and revulsion which could explode at any moment. 

So to bring it back on topic, what do you think Samara's reaction to this would be? Her main purpose for becoming a Justicar was to hunt down Morinth, and with that done, she plans to hunt for other Ardat Yakshi's. Would Samara trudge on, or stick by Shepard? I'm sure the Commander would be making a serious effort to figure out what the hecks going on, but maybe there wouldn't be any answers. Also, if Samara chose the "hunt them all down" route, would that even be possible, since it was hard enough to track down Morinth, and she was only one.  


The only flaw with this is that in order to produce an Ardat-Yakshi, it needs to be born from pureblood. That's not even the only factor. As Samara said, there is only 3 known Ardat Yakshi in the world. And, considering you killed Morinth. 2. and both are living in isolation.

But If by some chance, all the purebloods of the Asari community had infected Ardat-Yakshi children and they all escaped like Morinth then I dont think the deaths would be too suspicious...

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lol

In cut Samara's LotSB dossier she was on Earth and embraced eternity with William Shakespeare.




"Content removed from Samara's dossier suggests she was an accidental Ancient Astronaut in Elizabethan England who embraced eternity with William Shakespeare."

Click this and scroll down a lot once you click Role Playing games.

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xRAYZ0Rx wrote...

GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

After completing Samara's loyalty mission, you can ask her about Morinth's claim that she is the genetic destiny of the asari, to which Samara replies, "that doesn't seem very viable on account of Ardat-Yakshi's being sterile." What if Morinth was right, just not in the way we think she meant, as every other species seems to find the asari sexually disirable, so there would be no shortage of potential victims if for whatever reason we saw a significant rise in Ardat Yakshi's, the asari would go from being the favourite to being shunned and ostracized, as there is no way to differentiate between a normal asari and an Ardat Yakshi. The fear mongers would have a field day with this, people would already be on edge, with all the news reports about suspicious deaths and such, it would be a melting pot of fear and revulsion which could explode at any moment. 

So to bring it back on topic, what do you think Samara's reaction to this would be? Her main purpose for becoming a Justicar was to hunt down Morinth, and with that done, she plans to hunt for other Ardat Yakshi's. Would Samara trudge on, or stick by Shepard? I'm sure the Commander would be making a serious effort to figure out what the hecks going on, but maybe there wouldn't be any answers. Also, if Samara chose the "hunt them all down" route, would that even be possible, since it was hard enough to track down Morinth, and she was only one.  


The only flaw with this is that in order to produce an Ardat-Yakshi, it needs to be born from pureblood. That's not even the only factor. As Samara said, there is only 3 known Ardat Yakshi in the world. And, considering you killed Morinth. 2. and both are living in isolation.

But If by some chance, all the purebloods of the Asari community had infected Ardat-Yakshi children and they all escaped like Morinth then I dont think the deaths would be too suspicious...


A level designer from Bioware's already posted on the forums that Ardat-Yakshi are, indeed, sterile.  A level designer may not be privy to the knowledge the writers are, but a level designer is at least an employed source on the inside, as opposed to the limited creative influence players possess, in speculating about speculation.

There are more than three Ardat-Yakshi in existence.  The Codex states that "1% of asari are on the AY-spectum," which could mean that they are Ardat-Yakshi, or they carry the Ardat-Yakshi gene, if that's how it works.  Not all Ardat-Yakshi are violent, but all of them are kept out of the general populace.

Samara only knew of three Ardat-Yakshi; her children.  Considering that the Justicars have access to a pool of information that exceeds even that of the STG's connections, the identities of AY isolated from the general populace must be keep top secret, if not even Samara knows about other AY.

Justicars are only sent after violent, murdering AY, though they'd probably apprehend any AY who are not in a work program, or in isolation.

I'm tired, and it's almost 4:30 AM, so I'm just laying down some facts before I go to sleep.

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Mesina2 wrote...

lol

In cut Samara's LotSB dossier she was on Earth and embraced eternity with William Shakespeare.




"Content removed from Samara's dossier suggests she was an accidental Ancient Astronaut in Elizabethan England who embraced eternity with William Shakespeare."

Click this and scroll down a lot once you click Role Playing games.


Yeah, we've discussed this before.  This is one of the dumbest things I've seen Bioware come up with.

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^Well it was cut out.

But still damn funny.

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I had Reaper/Collector meddling in mind, to explain the rise in Ardat Yakshi, Morinth would be correct in that it was there genetic destiny, and there sterility would have no barring on there effectiveness at what amounts to being shocktroops. York you make a good point in that with our limited knowledge, it would seem that more AY's are not killers than those that are.

I seem to remember a forum member attempt to defend Morinth because the only thing that differentiated her from her sister's was that she melded first. As I understood it, signs of an Ardat Yakshi manifested during puberty, but maybe I'm wrong.

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Mesina2 wrote...

^Well it was cut out.
But still damn funny.

That is funny.  Kind of silly funny.  Just think if it wasn't cut.  If that wasn't cut, Bioware would probably be scrambling around to release a patch to take it out.  Embraced eternity with Shakespeare.:lol:

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On my second play-through and I just finished Samara's loyalty mission again. It always gives me shivers the way she says "Enough Morinth!" during the showdown. She's usually so calm and cool and the tone she uses is chilling. Makes me respect her awesomeness that much more :lol:

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GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

I had Reaper/Collector meddling in mind, to explain the rise in Ardat Yakshi, Morinth would be correct in that it was there genetic destiny, and there sterility would have no barring on there effectiveness at what amounts to being shocktroops. York you make a good point in that with our limited knowledge, it would seem that more AY's are not killers than those that are.

I seem to remember a forum member attempt to defend Morinth because the only thing that differentiated her from her sister's was that she melded first. As I understood it, signs of an Ardat Yakshi manifested during puberty, but maybe I'm wrong.

To clarify:

The A-Y spectrum includes asari who are simply unable to meld, some for whom melding is uncomfortable, disturbing, or merely painful (like a migraine). They suffer from benign varieties of the A-Y syndrome and, as york said before, they are outcasts in normal asari society, the vast majority being institutionalized in some fashion (monitored work program, asylums, sanatoria, etc...). A-Y are fairly common (1% of total asari population, so several million A-Y's...), mostly (but not exclusively) among pureblood asari (i.e. among children of asari-asari pairings).

When Samara states there are 3 known Ardat-Yakshi in existence, she refers to the rare dangerous victims of A-Y syndrome who's attempts at melding will kill or cause brain damage in their prospective mate. Only these most dangerous individuals will end up on the justicars list. The harmless ones are of no concern to them.

New dangerous A-Y's may be added to the list, or some may be discovered accidentaly by wandering justicars.

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So what your saying Flame is that you've debunked my theory. Hey, I thought it was good.

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I don't know why the Reapers would bother with the asari, anyway since the Reapers think the asari are an inferior species (for a reason that is weak, mostly inapplicable, and not even fully understood by the game's writers, FFS).

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It wouldn't have mattered that the Reapers view the asari as inferior, its not like I thought they planned on uplifting them or anything. Just kill/be killed, and more importantly create panic on a large scale.

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So what your saying Flame is that you've debunked my theory. Hey, I thought it was good.

Don't feel bad, General... Most forum readers never bother delving this deep into A-Y's and justicars; hence the significant number of people who hate Samara for the wrong reasons. Which is kinda silly, as there are some good reasons why one wouldn't like the character... I just feel Samara's qualities largely outweigh her flaws.

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On Valentine's day. David Shepard gets rejected by Samara, his one true love. And proceeds to throw himself into his suicide mission. Where he has no romance. No comfort. Which he survives as well as all his crew. Samara still insists on meditating.



Life's a **** eh?

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xRAYZ0Rx wrote...
On Valentine's day. David Shepard gets rejected by Samara, his one true love. And proceeds to throw himself into his suicide mission. Where he has no romance. No comfort. Which he survives as well as all his crew. Samara still insists on meditating.

Life's a **** eh?

I'm sure she'll still appreciate a card, should David Shepard find a suitable one... (i.e. not pushy) Image IPB

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Flamewielder wrote...

xRAYZ0Rx wrote...
On Valentine's day. David Shepard gets rejected by Samara, his one true love. And proceeds to throw himself into his suicide mission. Where he has no romance. No comfort. Which he survives as well as all his crew. Samara still insists on meditating.

Life's a **** eh?

I'm sure she'll still appreciate a card, should David Shepard find a suitable one... (i.e. not pushy) Image IPB


ahh Flame's ever so sound advice.
always appreciated.

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yorkj86 wrote...

A certain website thinks Mrs. Christina Hendricks would make a good actress for Samara.  Presumably, this is because of her prodigious bosom, elegant features and strong jawline.  Apart from her physical features, she can play a classy lady, too. 

Thoughts?


Christina Hendricks is a beautiful woman, but she's a bit too thick (and I don't mean that in a bad way) to play Samara, IMO. Samara may be top heavy but she's also got a very athletic build. I'd describe
Christina Hendricks as being curvy rather than athletic.

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One of my favorite images of Samara:



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http://masseffectscr...vorites-part-2/