She would be overjoyed to see that her non-Morinth daughters could be free. As for Morinth... she'd still chase her, but her sense of purpose would be shaken, and she wouldn't be totally sure of what she'd do until they met.
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Posté 26 mars 2011 - 02:31
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Xilizhra wrote...
She would be overjoyed to see that her non-Morinth daughters could be free. As for Morinth... she'd still chase her, but her sense of purpose would be shaken, and she wouldn't be totally sure of what she'd do until they met.
Agreed, I'm not sure that Morinth would be able to turn away from her addiction to killing by this point. Shrug, would be an interesting story either way.
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Posté 26 mars 2011 - 02:38
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Samara would definitely still chase Morinth. Even if she were to be cured, she has still blood on her hands, and the asari don't seem very merciful, regarding the prosecution of murderous AY.
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Posté 26 mars 2011 - 04:04
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I still think it would have been pretty cool to go on a search and destroy mission with Samara, hunting down a rogue Justicar.
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Posté 26 mars 2011 - 04:16
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I still think it would have been pretty cool to go on a search and destroy mission with Samara, hunting down a rogue Justicar.
That would have been cool. I would prefer that, to the whole Morinth subplot, Morinth herself included. Also, in fighting a Justicar, it would shut up the people who say "lolol samara isn't a powerful biotic, her powerset sucks," in that we would be able to see what their training, their experience, and their age, earns them, in terms of power.
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Posté 26 mars 2011 - 06:15
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Those are good points, and if it would replace the loyalty quest, then you would also hope to expect a mission with with more action and length, as well as story. I think Samara's quest, along with Thane's, is the shortest and quickest of them all. I hate that, because Samara is a great character. Of course, then we wouldn't have snu snu...yorkj86 wrote...
That would have been cool. I would prefer that, to the whole Morinth subplot, Morinth herself included. Also, in fighting a Justicar, it would shut up the people who say "lolol samara isn't a powerful biotic, her powerset sucks," in that we would be able to see what their training, their experience, and their age, earns them, in terms of power.
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Posté 26 mars 2011 - 07:15
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I'll be honest, I think you're letting your mood influence you way too much, you're at the point where you've left what seems reasonable behavior from Humans given what we know from the Codex into making them monsters just to make them suit a darkfic. Now make it AU by all means and go at it, but I don't see the ME Systems Alliance allowing this sort of behavior.
Take a breath and take a step back, there are other ways to get to where you need to go without twisting things into an unrecognizable shape to get where you want to go.
Thank you for the concern, but I was talking about original fiction, rather than another fanfic. Talinth by themselves were my own creation, originally meant for WoW. Their lifespan was Draenic (many millenia) and they had high magic potential instead of biotics, or kinetics.
I'm not so moody that I'd screw up an already set universe so completely.
Maybe I should've specifically stated it wasn't a fanfic rather than just calling it a "story."
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Posté 27 mars 2011 - 12:49
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AshiraShepard wrote...
Kudara wrote...
I'll be honest, I think you're letting your mood influence you way too much, you're at the point where you've left what seems reasonable behavior from Humans given what we know from the Codex into making them monsters just to make them suit a darkfic. Now make it AU by all means and go at it, but I don't see the ME Systems Alliance allowing this sort of behavior.
Take a breath and take a step back, there are other ways to get to where you need to go without twisting things into an unrecognizable shape to get where you want to go.
Thank you for the concern, but I was talking about original fiction, rather than another fanfic. Talinth by themselves were my own creation, originally meant for WoW. Their lifespan was Draenic (many millenia) and they had high magic potential instead of biotics, or kinetics.
I'm not so moody that I'd screw up an already set universe so completely.
Maybe I should've specifically stated it wasn't a fanfic rather than just calling it a "story."
Ah ok my bad
I missed that you were referring to your original idea for them instead of what you had been writing about them in the ME universe.
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Posté 30 mars 2011 - 06:25
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Samara is amazing. Every time I play the game -- no matter how many times I have listened to her story, I listen to it again. It is so incredibly moving! She is a beautiful character with such depth! I really hope they keep her in mass effect 3... When I did play my renegade game (it took so many times to actually play full on renegade because I just felt so bad for being mean to people) -- but when I did play full renegade and I chose Morinth.. I literally felt sick. I felt like I betrayed such a great person! I love how Bioware has actually created a game that can move people.
Samara is probably my favorite character in the game -- PLEASE BIOWARE! If you're reading this, KEEP HER!
Samara is probably my favorite character in the game -- PLEASE BIOWARE! If you're reading this, KEEP HER!
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Posté 30 mars 2011 - 06:27
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Oh yeah! Not to mention, you get the most renegade points in the game for betraying Samara. I received 49 points...which is a lot, probably the most, at one time. That shows you how evil Morinth is!
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Posté 30 mars 2011 - 10:57
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For those of you who may be dissappointed that Samara cannot accompany you on the Arrival mission, let me just say it is probably for the best as some choices may have brought you into conflict with her. Samara may not share Shepard's conviction about the need to stop the Reapers "at any cost"...
...or maybe she does, and would approve. Anyway. the DLC is well-made and truly gives Shepard an opportunity to shine on his own. It's great to finally see Hackett and get his views on the whole Reaper issue... Paragon/paragade Shepards get a measure of satisfaction. I was pleasantly surprised by the return to a ME1 sound for this DLC's music soundtrack.
...or maybe she does, and would approve. Anyway. the DLC is well-made and truly gives Shepard an opportunity to shine on his own. It's great to finally see Hackett and get his views on the whole Reaper issue... Paragon/paragade Shepards get a measure of satisfaction. I was pleasantly surprised by the return to a ME1 sound for this DLC's music soundtrack.
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Posté 30 mars 2011 - 12:18
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If Justicars are at all Utilitarian, Samara would see that Shepard could possibly save more lives by making a particular choice, even if the cost in lives would be significant.
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Posté 30 mars 2011 - 07:35
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Indeed, but Samara would have to share Shepard's conviction that stopping the Reapers justifies whatever "ultimate sacrifice" is required. Otherwise, Samara might question such a sacrifice, arguing that another way is preferable. As it is, Samara is not forced into arguing with Shepard.yorkj86 wrote...
If Justicars are at all Utilitarian, Samara would see that Shepard could possibly save more lives by making a particular choice, even if the cost in lives would be significant.
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Posté 30 mars 2011 - 07:53
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I suspect the code makes a difference between saving the lives of one and saving the lives of many. By the time you wake up you no longer have time for another way, it's destroy the relay or let the Reapers come and destroy everything.
I suspect Samara is smart enough to understand that the Reapers mean the end of all sentient life currently in the galaxy. I see her hating the choice but making it anyway. Saving a few only to doom them 20 min later along with everyone else makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
I suspect Samara is smart enough to understand that the Reapers mean the end of all sentient life currently in the galaxy. I see her hating the choice but making it anyway. Saving a few only to doom them 20 min later along with everyone else makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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Posté 31 mars 2011 - 01:32
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Hey guys,
Idk if or when Rana will get around to it, but she posted this on her facebook page. For anyone who isnt a fan of her on facebook, Its video from PAX East 2011 of her, and CrabCat Industries giving their presentation.
Its an hour long combined through 2 vids and its very funny. Makes me wish i lived in Boston to go to this. Enjoy.
http://nerdcaliber.com/blogs/?p=3091
Idk if or when Rana will get around to it, but she posted this on her facebook page. For anyone who isnt a fan of her on facebook, Its video from PAX East 2011 of her, and CrabCat Industries giving their presentation.
Its an hour long combined through 2 vids and its very funny. Makes me wish i lived in Boston to go to this. Enjoy.
http://nerdcaliber.com/blogs/?p=3091
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Samara is forced to follow shepard until the reapers are defeated. Unless she promised shepard that she would stay with him until the suicide mission was over... was arrival dlc content worth it? -- also was the overlord dlc worth it? im kind of hesitant to spend even more money on dlc...so much dlc!
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 04:10
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Samara is forced to follow shepard until the reapers are defeated. Unless she promised shepard that she would stay with him until the suicide mission was over... was arrival dlc content worth it? -- also was the overlord dlc worth it? im kind of hesitant to spend even more money on dlc...so much dlc!
Depends who you ask. I think Lair of the Shadow Broker was the only story DLC worth its cost.
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 05:17
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As york said, it depends on who you ask.
The Arrival DLC is heavily combat oriented, with a faster than usual pace. If you're itching for a new mission that's focused on combat, then you might like it. Just don't expect much of anything else, because it isn't there.
I'm not terribly fond of the Overlord DLC. I'm glad it's not tied to someone's loyalty mission. The story is nice, but cruising and hopping around in the Hammerhead really drags the overall experience down to me. If you're someone who likes the Hammerhead though, then you might like it.
The Arrival DLC is heavily combat oriented, with a faster than usual pace. If you're itching for a new mission that's focused on combat, then you might like it. Just don't expect much of anything else, because it isn't there.
I'm not terribly fond of the Overlord DLC. I'm glad it's not tied to someone's loyalty mission. The story is nice, but cruising and hopping around in the Hammerhead really drags the overall experience down to me. If you're someone who likes the Hammerhead though, then you might like it.
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JohnnyDollar wrote...
As york said, it depends on who you ask.
The Arrival DLC is heavily combat oriented, with a faster than usual pace. If you're itching for a new mission that's focused on combat, then you might like it. Just don't expect much of anything else, because it isn't there.
I'm not terribly fond of the Overlord DLC. I'm glad it's not tied to someone's loyalty mission. The story is nice, but cruising and hopping around in the Hammerhead really drags the overall experience down to me. If you're someone who likes the Hammerhead though, then you might like it.
I felt the same till the end of it. For me, I wasn't moved by anything in ME2 as much as I was moved by the sight of David in his little crucifixion circle.
I have siblings that I love and man, that part just killed me. I paragon punch that bastard every time.
BTW, Hey Johnny, long time no see.
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What's up Guardian? Yeah, it's been a while.GuardianAngel470 wrote...
I felt the same till the end of it. For me, I wasn't moved by anything in ME2 as much as I was moved by the sight of David in his little crucifixion circle.
I have siblings that I love and man, that part just killed me. I paragon punch that bastard every time.
BTW, Hey Johnny, long time no see.
I wonder if Samara would have killed that fellow on the spot if given the chance.
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 10:38
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So what if the mass deaths of the batarians are used as a reason to get Samara out of ME3? Even if it doesn't make sense, by her character, and by the Code, it could be used in an off-handed way to get rid of her.
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Posté 02 avril 2011 - 12:54
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D:
That would just be cheap. And also give more fuel to the haters...
She isn't stupid, she would know it's either spare those batarians now and let them live for twenty minutes longer before the Reapers show up and kill absolutely EVERYONE. Or kill the batarians and end up saving everyone else in the galaxy.
Or at least buying us more time to prepare.
That would just be cheap. And also give more fuel to the haters...
She isn't stupid, she would know it's either spare those batarians now and let them live for twenty minutes longer before the Reapers show up and kill absolutely EVERYONE. Or kill the batarians and end up saving everyone else in the galaxy.
Or at least buying us more time to prepare.
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D:
That would just be cheap. And also give more fuel to the haters...
She isn't stupid, she would know it's either spare those batarians now and let them live for twenty minutes longer before the Reapers show up and kill absolutely EVERYONE. Or kill the batarians and end up saving everyone else in the galaxy.
Or at least buying us more time to prepare.
Fuel for the Bioware-haters, or the Samara-haters? After the "Arrival" DLC, and perhaps DA2, the former group really doesn't need any more fuel to do what it does.
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Posté 02 avril 2011 - 03:07
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The Samara haters.
If Bioware DOES use the DLC as an excuse to get rid of her in ME3, then they will probably not miss the chance to make Samara look bad.
Since using the excuse would imply that Samara was so hell bent on her code that she blindly gets pissed off at Shepard for killing ANYONE who hasn't done anything in spite of the fact that you just saved an entire galaxy's worth of lives for killing those people.
They can't use that excuse; it makes no sense at all.
As for the Bioware-Haters...
See, this is why I'm waiting until Bioware releases an ultimate version of DA2 on Steam. All the rage and complaining and general whining has killed all excitement I had for the game.
If Bioware DOES use the DLC as an excuse to get rid of her in ME3, then they will probably not miss the chance to make Samara look bad.
Since using the excuse would imply that Samara was so hell bent on her code that she blindly gets pissed off at Shepard for killing ANYONE who hasn't done anything in spite of the fact that you just saved an entire galaxy's worth of lives for killing those people.
They can't use that excuse; it makes no sense at all.
As for the Bioware-Haters...
See, this is why I'm waiting until Bioware releases an ultimate version of DA2 on Steam. All the rage and complaining and general whining has killed all excitement I had for the game.
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