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[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

yorkj86 wrote...
You also only saw Mordin for a minute or two, in the demo, and he was being fired at by Cerberus soldiers.  That's not really the best time to explain him reversing his stance on the genophage, or the krogans, and so on.

Ahh. You mean character development and all that.

Don't know. I just hope we find her on Thessia doing something important that can aid Shepard in inlisting the Asari.

[Seboist]

Lizardviking wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

According to Ms. Norman, from her Twitter:

"Christina Norman
Tip for fans: embrace change, previous games don't go away but new games bring new possibilities."

In what way(s) could Samara change?

Personally, I hate this mentality.  "If you don't openly accept every change with open arms, you're a grumpy old geezer."  It doesn't follow.

Mordin seemed unchanged. So I am beginning to doubt that Samara will have any changes. Only one question remain though.

Should she be in her strawberry or black and gold outfit? I liked both personally.

I also hope that her attitude towards Shepard will change depending on his P/R status. And if we are lucky, a small aknowlegdement of the attempted romance?

I doubt she'd remain in the black and gold Cerberus outfit.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Seboist wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

According to Ms. Norman, from her Twitter:

"Christina Norman
Tip for fans: embrace change, previous games don't go away but new games bring new possibilities."

In what way(s) could Samara change?

Personally, I hate this mentality.  "If you don't openly accept every change with open arms, you're a grumpy old geezer."  It doesn't follow.

Mordin seemed unchanged. So I am beginning to doubt that Samara will have any changes. Only one question remain though.

Should she be in her strawberry or black and gold outfit? I liked both personally.

I also hope that her attitude towards Shepard will change depending on his P/R status. And if we are lucky, a small aknowlegdement of the attempted romance?

I doubt she'd remain in the black and gold Cerberus outfit.

I don't think it was a Cerberus outfit.

[Flamewielder]

Me neither. I just thought she looked regal in black and gold. The red and blue seemed too "superheroeish" to me.

[Flamewielder]

RE: Christina's tweets re perm vs temp squaddies

It's pretty much how I envisioned BW retaining most of the ME2 squaddies while avoiding the zillions of optional conversation options (IF X alive then say 1, IF X dead but Y alive, then say 2, etc...). So I'm glad BW went that route and will offer (likely most, if not all) ME2 squaddies a story-driven temp squaddie role, including Samara.

As for changes in Samara's outlook, events in ME2 can certainly have sown the seeds of change in Samara's mind. So much remains unsaid about Justicars: Can they retire once a specific "quest" has been fulfilled? What is the Justicar Order's role in wartime? Has Morinth's death brought closure enough for Samara to move on and allow herself some "romantic involvement"? Or let herself enjoy her friendship with Shepard on a more regular basis?

It looks like "the Galactic War" will pretty much be the backdrop of future ME products, either by BW's or licensees'. I guess spinoffs will include RTS (likely licensee), starship battle simulator, MMORPG (already done by BW with the KOTOR IP).

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Flamewielder wrote...
As for changes in Samara's outlook, events in ME2 can certainly have sown the seeds of change in Samara's mind. So much remains unsaid about Justicars: Can they retire once a specific "quest" has been fulfilled? What is the Justicar Order's role in wartime? Has Morinth's death brought closure enough for Samara to move on and allow herself some "romantic involvement"? Or let herself enjoy her friendship with Shepard on a more regular basis?

Interesting question about Justicars role during wartime. What do they do exactly? Are they like a peacekeeping force that protects the civilians population wherever they are?

Whatever their role is. I just hope that we see Samara doing more than just defending civilians. Because other characters like Mordin and Wrex seems to do pretty vital stuff in the grand scheme of things.

It looks like "the Galactic War" will pretty much be the backdrop of future ME products, either by BW's or licensees'. I guess spinoffs will include RTS (likely licensee), starship battle simulator, MMORPG (already done by BW with the KOTOR IP).

I hope not. ME3 is going to end Shepard's story. So we better also see a conclusion to the galactic war.

[Flamewielder]

Galactic War offers too much possible expansions as a setting. Shepard (and team) will save Earth for sure, but I think his/her part will be done by then. Other heroes will pick up the torch. But that's not really Samara-related...

[This is the End My Friend]

yorkj86 wrote...

We making a new Samara thread in/for the new ME3 character forum?

Your call York. I will say this though, Mordin's new thread seems to have rallied a few more supporters to the cause. Not sure if it will last, but it was nice to see none the less. 

[kelmar6821]

http://nickie-woods....ticar-213371254

by Nickie-Woods

[Flamewielder]

Just to let everyone I'll be lurking in the ME3 Samara thread from now on.

[Rusty Pabst]

Couple more Samara images:




http://masseffectscr...orites-part-11/

[Rusty Pabst]

Another Samara pic:



http://masseffectscr...orites-part-13/

[AresXX7]

Here's a couple of Samara banners I made, just spreading the love around while trying to get better at it.





I thought I'd post them here for those avoiding the ME3 section to avoid any spoilers.

Hope you like them.

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

http://a2.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/104/a2212bddd44b49f2beeaea602abbb9b9/l.jpg

http://fc07.devianta...ius-d3k1s5h.jpg

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http://fc09.devianta...e42-d3nd5mg.jpg

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Accredited to the works' respective owners, BioWare, and Rana McAnear herself.

Samara's probably the only female romance option in the series who treats herself as your equal or greater and does not show any effort to hide it when confronted. She's made of pure badassery, right up there with Thane and Zaeed.

Pictures of Rana's cosplay as Samara here.

http://www.facebook.com/SamaraME2

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 25 juillet 2011 - 07:37 .

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

Put this in a different post so that you guys won't have to read through all that.

Anyway, let's show support for our beloved Justicar and vote.

http://social.biowar...5/index/7936334

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 25 juillet 2011 - 04:02 .

[NICKjnp]

Yeah...she seems to mostly post in the motivationals thread.

[NICKjnp]

I haven't seen JohnnyDollar around though.

[warlock22]

[quote]Flamewielder wrote...

[quote]yorkj86 wrote...

[quote]tommyt_1994 wrote...

Hello Samara fans, just dropping by to drop a quick question and show my support for Samara. I've never actually poked my head in here, but from what I understand, this is one of the few fan threads where a lot of in-depth, and actually character-related discussion occurs (much like the Jack thread).

Samara is one of my favorite characters in the game,and her almost-romance scene is heart wrenching. Bioware really hit the nail on the head with that scene. Is that the general consensus around here? That even though she isn't a full fledged romance option, the writing was good enough to still be greatly appreciated, and maybe even preferred to an just averagely written actual romance? And do most of you want to see Samara become a romance option in ME3, if it's done right?

Sorry if this has been discussed to death, which it more than likely has been, but I wanted my first post in here to bring forth some good discussion and thought. I also just happened to be interested in these topics
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We all seem to like it.  The tone of her voice, and the expression(s) on her face when she admits that she has feelings for Shepard, but must decline pursuing them because of her dedication to the Code, those are deeply affecting.

As for Samara becoming a romance option in ME3, the consensus seems to be that it should only be done if it would respect her character.  Her character shouldn't develop just to pave the way for a romance.

I think that if there were to be a Samara romance in ME3, it should be very solemn and touching.
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Samara has surprising depth for a videogame character, who are often cliché with their whole personality summarized in their outward appearance. Samara reveals little of herself prior to her loyalty mission, in keeping with her belief that burdens are something to be carried alone.
The fact that she lets her emotions show after the mission is telling. People confuse demeanor with emotions, expression with feelings. Feelings are felt, but not always expressed. Wether or not emotions/feelings are expressed or not is a matter of character; you may be unwilling to display/express emotions by choice (as Samara) or unable to express emotions (through lack of understanding of oneself, or lack of ability to express, verbally or otherwise.
Samara could have hunted down Morinth without becoming a Justicar: she was an already skilled warrior before settling down to have a family. Why bother with Oaths and Code, if all she wanted was stop a serial killer? Perhaps the Justicar Oaths and Code were necessary for Samara to to be able to find the resolve to track down and eventually kill her daughter, something any parent would have great difficulty doing and feel great anguish over. Perhaps the path of the Justicar was/is a path of pennance for Samara, something she chose to punish herself for what she new she had to do.
Turning down Shepard when the Code allowed her to find solace with him is telling: she is walking the penitent's path and will not cast off her burden until she crosses some sort of important emotional threshold (like a sign that Morinth has somehow forgiven her).
To give you an idea of such a powerful moment, watch "The Mission": Robert de Niro's character (a wealthy spanish slave trader), having killed his brother and wife out of jealousy, has taken penitent vows and chose to carry all of his armor and weapons in a large pack on his back, through the Amazon rainforest, up a steep escarpment, climbing back down to retrieve it when a companion removes it off.
Only at the summit, when an guarani child (of whom De Niro's character enslaved thousands) removes the pack, does the character feels redeemed...
So... unless Bioware has something similar in store for Samara, I'll be dissapointed with any cheap fan service romance. That being said, I'm hopeful BW can come up with something that will do justice to the Justicar. As for character preferences, some guys may like their women simple and easy. I kinda like mine hard and complex... So, Samara ftw!
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You said it perfectly, i agree that Samara's emoitional threshold Should be something deep and not quick and easy. Really hope Samara is a LI aswell as a squadmate in Mass Effect 3. Samara FTW!:D

[Yugster]

Is it actually possible to romance samara? Ive tried all convo options and always ends in a dead end. First time I sore her I thought my sheapard need to have it off with her!