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Seriously, would Samara sleep with renegade Shepard if it was the only way to prevent him from killing an innocent person (supposing she still considers herself under her oath of allegiance and Shepard does not come up with the idea to just order her into his bed)?

Or could she be persuaded to expand her knowledge of humans in this way, without obligations of romantic relationship whatsoever beyond a single bed time?

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The Reaper cliffhanger makes a huge grin spread across my face every time I see it. BRING IT!

The Samara cliffhanger makes me want to march into Bioware and cry/scream. =P Big child response...*cough*

Let's hope that there will be some fruition that comes from this in ME3.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

Seriously, would Samara sleep with renegade Shepard if it was the only way to prevent him from killing an innocent person (supposing she still considers herself under her oath of allegiance and Shepard does not come up with the idea to just order her into his bed)?

Or could she be persuaded to expand her knowledge of humans in this way, without obligations of romantic relationship whatsoever beyond a single bed time?


LOL!

"Sleep with me dammit! or I'll blow his head off!"

"Why yes Shepard, I'll share your bed, if only for study."

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

Seriously, would Samara sleep with renegade Shepard if it was the only way to prevent him from killing an innocent person (supposing she still considers herself under her oath of allegiance and Shepard does not come up with the idea to just order her into his bed)?

Or could she be persuaded to expand her knowledge of humans in this way, without obligations of romantic relationship whatsoever beyond a single bed time?

What would be an example that would fit this scenario though? 

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slimgrin wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Seriously, would Samara sleep with renegade Shepard if it was the only way to prevent him from killing an innocent person (supposing she still considers herself under her oath of allegiance and Shepard does not come up with the idea to just order her into his bed)?

Or could she be persuaded to expand her knowledge of humans in this way, without obligations of romantic relationship whatsoever beyond a single bed time?


LOL!

"Sleep with me dammit! or I'll blow his head off!"

"Why yes Shepard, I'll share your bed, if only for study."


Spend 10 years in the military and then 2 years dead, and you'll be taking sex lightly. So this is not totally a joke.

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Seriously, would Samara sleep with renegade Shepard if it was the only way to prevent him from killing an innocent person (supposing she still considers herself under her oath of allegiance and Shepard does not come up with the idea to just order her into his bed)?

Or could she be persuaded to expand her knowledge of humans in this way, without obligations of romantic relationship whatsoever beyond a single bed time?

What would be an example that would fit this scenario though? 


I'd wish there was something along these lines as an expansion to the "curiosity" dialogue with Samara. Would be cool to ask her these questions, and I bet she'd give a truthful answer. Not necessarily leading to the bed even if it was "yes".

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Seriously, would Samara sleep with renegade Shepard if it was the only way to prevent him from killing an innocent person (supposing she still considers herself under her oath of allegiance and Shepard does not come up with the idea to just order her into his bed)?

Or could she be persuaded to expand her knowledge of humans in this way, without obligations of romantic relationship whatsoever beyond a single bed time?

What would be an example that would fit this scenario though? 


I'd wish there was something along these lines as an expansion to the "curiosity" dialogue with Samara. Would be cool to ask her these questions, and I bet she'd give a truthful answer. Not necessarily leading to the bed even if it was "yes".

Well Samara is very mysterious.  You never know.  She may have a little surprise for your renegade scenerio.
Ha ha ha ha.........

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

AshiraShepard wrote...

The Reaper cliffhanger makes a huge grin spread across my face every time I see it. BRING IT!

The Samara cliffhanger makes me want to march into Bioware and cry/scream. =P Big child response...*cough*

Let's hope that there will be some fruition that comes from this in ME3.


Hopefully the Cliffhanger will be worth it in the end.

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Seriously, would Samara sleep with renegade Shepard if it was the only way to prevent him from killing an innocent person (supposing she still considers herself under her oath of allegiance and Shepard does not come up with the idea to just order her into his bed)?

Or could she be persuaded to expand her knowledge of humans in this way, without obligations of romantic relationship whatsoever beyond a single bed time?

What would be an example that would fit this scenario though? 


I'd wish there was something along these lines as an expansion to the "curiosity" dialogue with Samara. Would be cool to ask her these questions, and I bet she'd give a truthful answer. Not necessarily leading to the bed even if it was "yes".

Well Samara is very mysterious.  You never know.  She may have a little surprise for your renegade scenerio.
Ha ha ha ha.........

She said she will be oblidged to kill me anyway after her oath expires, so why the hell not? And given that, maybe it's my only chance, because I don't want to kill her.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Seriously, would Samara sleep with renegade Shepard if it was the only way to prevent him from killing an innocent person (supposing she still considers herself under her oath of allegiance and Shepard does not come up with the idea to just order her into his bed)?

Or could she be persuaded to expand her knowledge of humans in this way, without obligations of romantic relationship whatsoever beyond a single bed time?

What would be an example that would fit this scenario though? 


I'd wish there was something along these lines as an expansion to the "curiosity" dialogue with Samara. Would be cool to ask her these questions, and I bet she'd give a truthful answer. Not necessarily leading to the bed even if it was "yes".

Well Samara is very mysterious.  You never know.  She may have a little surprise for your renegade scenerio.
Ha ha ha ha.........

She said she will be oblidged to kill me anyway after her oath expires, so why the hell not? And given that, maybe it's my only chance, because I don't want to kill her.

Well she says (not verbatim) "let us hope that we will not meet again for the sake of our firendship".  Which implies the fight would be on if they crossed paths again.  So unless I missed some dialog, which is certainly possible, then fighting Samara is not a forgone conclusion with your renegade Shep following the endgame mission.

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Seriously, would Samara sleep with renegade Shepard if it was the only way to prevent him from killing an innocent person (supposing she still considers herself under her oath of allegiance and Shepard does not come up with the idea to just order her into his bed)?

Or could she be persuaded to expand her knowledge of humans in this way, without obligations of romantic relationship whatsoever beyond a single bed time?

What would be an example that would fit this scenario though? 


I'd wish there was something along these lines as an expansion to the "curiosity" dialogue with Samara. Would be cool to ask her these questions, and I bet she'd give a truthful answer. Not necessarily leading to the bed even if it was "yes".

Well Samara is very mysterious.  You never know.  She may have a little surprise for your renegade scenerio.
Ha ha ha ha.........

She said she will be oblidged to kill me anyway after her oath expires, so why the hell not? And given that, maybe it's my only chance, because I don't want to kill her.

Well she says (not verbatim) "let us hope that we will not meet again for the sake of our firendship".  Which implies the fight would be on if they crossed paths again.  So unless I missed some dialog, which is certainly possible, then fighting Samara is not a forgone conclusion with your renegade Shep following the endgame mission.


Hmmm...
I don't remember hitting such a line, although I did exhaust all the dialogue with her.
But from the metagaming PoV it seems to be a strong hint that in ME3 they will cross their paths, and what'll be the result with the Renegade? A fight to the death?

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I remember he friendship line. It could very well lead to conflict. I guess that's a solid reason for me to clean my act up for ME3!

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Seriously, would Samara sleep with renegade Shepard if it was the only way to prevent him from killing an innocent person (supposing she still considers herself under her oath of allegiance and Shepard does not come up with the idea to just order her into his bed)?

Or could she be persuaded to expand her knowledge of humans in this way, without obligations of romantic relationship whatsoever beyond a single bed time?

What would be an example that would fit this scenario though? 


I'd wish there was something along these lines as an expansion to the "curiosity" dialogue with Samara. Would be cool to ask her these questions, and I bet she'd give a truthful answer. Not necessarily leading to the bed even if it was "yes".

Well Samara is very mysterious.  You never know.  She may have a little surprise for your renegade scenerio.
Ha ha ha ha.........

She said she will be oblidged to kill me anyway after her oath expires, so why the hell not? And given that, maybe it's my only chance, because I don't want to kill her.

Well she says (not verbatim) "let us hope that we will not meet again for the sake of our firendship".  Which implies the fight would be on if they crossed paths again.  So unless I missed some dialog, which is certainly possible, then fighting Samara is not a forgone conclusion with your renegade Shep following the endgame mission.


Hmmm...
I don't remember hitting such a line, although I did exhaust all the dialogue with her.
But from the metagaming PoV it seems to be a strong hint that in ME3 they will cross their paths, and what'll be the result with the Renegade? A fight to the death?

I haven't hit the line either, I heard the audio though.  She says to Paragon Shep that he/she can call on her and she will come.  I did hit the paragon line.  With Renegade I think she says what I said in the above post.  In both instances I think that she alludes to the fact that her oath to Shep is fulfilled. So it seems that if playing Paragon you may be able to request her assistance in ME3.  If playing renegade you may cross paths with her.  Knowing her,  a fight to the death would not be surprising.

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Of course I am speaking from within the ME story, not necessarily how Bioware will develop ME3. "Ah yes big decisions"

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JohnnyDollar wrote...
Knowing her,  a fight to the death would not be surprising.


Crap, that'll make it two good asari lives on my hands.
What'll be her last wish, I wonder?

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Knowing her,  a fight to the death would not be surprising.


Crap, that'll make it two good asari lives on my hands.
What'll be her last wish, I wonder?


Don't do it, don't wonder.

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I haven't hit the line either, I heard the audio though.  She says to Paragon Shep that he/she can call on her and she will come.  I did hit the paragon line.  With Renegade I think she says what I said in the above post.  In both instances I think that she alludes to the fact that her oath to Shep is fulfilled. So it seems that if playing Paragon you may be able to request her assistance in ME3.  If playing renegade you may cross paths with her.  Knowing her,  a fight to the death would not be surprising.


Unless of course Bioware plans to use Morinth/Samara like Ashley/Kaidan and decides that your paragon/renegade scores determines who'll be back... They can't really use death, as all the squadmates can die in the final mission. Should the squadmates remain the same in ME3, they'll write them all back in for a "new" Shepard and bring back whatever survivors made it with an "import" Shepard.

In either case, I guess the chances of a traditional romance with Samara/Morinth are slim in ME3

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Knowing her,  a fight to the death would not be surprising.


Crap, that'll make it two good asari lives on my hands.
What'll be her last wish, I wonder?


Pepare to die a few times in that conflict. I'm sure if you fight her she'll be wicked-tough to beat. Probably worse than Benezia.

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yorkj86 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Knowing her,  a fight to the death would not be surprising.


Crap, that'll make it two good asari lives on my hands.
What'll be her last wish, I wonder?


Don't do it, don't wonder.


What do you mean "don't do it"? If there will be a fight, that's it for Sam. However much I may like her as a person, I won't flinch. In any case, it's her Code that seals her fate.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Knowing her,  a fight to the death would not be surprising.


Crap, that'll make it two good asari lives on my hands.
What'll be her last wish, I wonder?

I don't know, she may not have one.

This is all speculation though.  Bioware could just give her a cameo if you didn't get her killed in the suicide mission.  I just like talking about it.  I don't however confuse the story with what Bioware will actually produce though.

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slimgrin wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Knowing her,  a fight to the death would not be surprising.


Crap, that'll make it two good asari lives on my hands.
What'll be her last wish, I wonder?


Pepare to die a few times in that conflict. I'm sure if you fight her she'll be wicked-tough to beat. Probably worse than Benezia.


NNNOOOOOOO!!!!

The fight with Benezia was the toughest fight of my life. Including the real life. I just kept bugging through the walls and ceiling... Until I came up with the idea to hide behind the rachni queen tank!

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I haven't hit the line either, I heard the audio though.  She says to Paragon Shep that he/she can call on her and she will come.  I did hit the paragon line.  With Renegade I think she says what I said in the above post.  In both instances I think that she alludes to the fact that her oath to Shep is fulfilled. So it seems that if playing Paragon you may be able to request her assistance in ME3.  If playing renegade you may cross paths with her.  Knowing her,  a fight to the death would not be surprising.


Unless of course Bioware plans to use Morinth/Samara like Ashley/Kaidan and decides that your paragon/renegade scores determines who'll be back... They can't really use death, as all the squadmates can die in the final mission. Should the squadmates remain the same in ME3, they'll write them all back in for a "new" Shepard and bring back whatever survivors made it with an "import" Shepard.

In either case, I guess the chances of a traditional romance with Samara/Morinth are slim in ME3

IMO (don't get upset anyone reading this) all of the ME2 squadmates are dead in the default.  Hence small (cameos, love scenes)  roles for alive squadmates in your save import in ME3. 

WIth that said, Bioware can also just retcon the hell out of it and come up with anything to give larger (squadmates) roles for some of the characters. 

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Now that I think of it, that would be a terrific and ballsy thing for Bioware to do. What a plot line! One way, a valued friend and teammate lives, the other one is a fight to the death. After what they did with Wrex...

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I don't know, I hope they will bring them back. I mean look at the hate and discontent over Liara/Ash/Kadian in ME2. I'm not sure they want to risk the wrath of the fans who want their favorite new ME2 character back to join them. I think there may be a few new choices but honestly I'm hoping for very few and more of the squad members I already know and trust.

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slimgrin wrote...

Now that I think of it, that would be a terrific and ballsy thing for Bioware to do. What a plot line! One way, a valued friend and teammate lives, the other one is a fight to the death. After what they did with Wrex...


...practically make him leader of the Krogans?
Uh... yeah, how dare they do that! :?