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[volly0071]

Siansonea II wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

The model even has an asari name, Rana Thanoptis's, to be exact.

Did you let her live in any of your ME save imports.
I think killing her instead of letting her go was justified because of the potential threat she could be to others and there was no choice to arrest her.  This is of course from a non meta gaming perpective.

I usually let Rana Thanoptis live, she seemed like a flunky, not an asari commando. I guess my reasoning was that she was probably going to die in the blast anyway.

I'm about 50/50. Sometimes I do, but she strikes me as too dangerous to let go.  I do get irritated by not being able to put her down in the 2 game.

[Flamewielder]

yorkj86 wrote...
Really, I  just don't think the Asari view sexuality in the same way other species do.  What would be considered sexually alluring attire to humans would be just "whatever was at-hand when I woke up this morning" to an Asari.
EDIT: I love how cultural relativism angers the Asari-haters so

Consider this: asari mate through "a gentle joining of the minds", to use Samara's own expression. It stands to reason that asari would be sexually attracted by a potential mate's mind (personality/willpower) rather than his/her physical appearance, with physical appearance taking a distant second place. That doesn't mean an asari cannot have a preference for certain aesthetics ("Me, I go for asses" - Matriarch Aethyta)...

As for Samara's outfit, I think even asari Justicars are allowed to have a bit of vanity... Some asari dress rather demurely (Liara in ME1), others wear gowns open on the abdomen (exposing their navel and indicating they are placental viviparians, in addition to being mammals by the way), asari dancers dress more provocatively but so do human dancers (i.e. they dress for the job). Samara's almost a 1000 years old... which is a respectable age even for an asari; she can display a hint of blue perfection anytime she likes, as far as I'm concerned... and I'm sure Shepard doesn't mind it one bit.

[Flamewielder]

DirtyVagrant wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...
DrityVagrint, I agree competently it is strange that the Asari haven't phased out the order that well. Oh, I also agree that its odd too see that Samurai type beings are still working in the 21st century thought it not that odd seeing how we still have the Deila Lama.

While true, the Dalai Lama isn't exactly wandering the world and killing those he deems unjust. Religions still prevail in the Mass Effect universe as we've seem with Ashley, Thane, and multiple asari. Makes me wonder if Siara (the asari religion) has a "leader" and how involved Justicars are with that religion if at all.

To me, Samara's comment about the Justicars existing to "punish the unjust and protect the innocent, not bring about spiritual enlightenment" are a clear indication that they are NOT a religious order, even if Samara herself believes in the Godess. Asari religious beliefs have blended smoothly across their society, of which the Justicars are a small but traditionally significant part. Justicars do not punish criminals and protect the innocent to please their Godess; they do it because asari society demands that they do. It is a duty, not a divine mission.

[BlackMetal]

Wow i go to Guitar Center for not even two hours and the thread jumps 5 pages.



What's the current discussion?

[Gammalfarmor]

calling Samara spacepaladin I think.

[Gammalfarmor]

2 pages left

[BlackMetal]

yorkj86 wrote...

BlackMetal wrote...

Wow i go to Guitar Center for not even two hours and the thread jumps 5 pages.

What's the current discussion?

Why, Asari lasciviousness and Asari reproductive organs, of course!    (I kid, I kid)

If that was the case i would go be an emo kid for missing out lol

[Flamewielder]

yorkj86 wrote...
Apart from speculation, where is it stated that the Asari are viviparous mammals, or viviparous mammal analogues?  I've heard all kinds of dumb theories about Asari reproduction, most of them fabricated by trolls, but I'm not seeing text from actual canon.  Of course, they have breasts, and  Liara tells us that humans and Asari are compatible physiologically, which can tell us that they likely have an analogous birth-canal, but is it actually written somewhere that they are viviparous mammals?

No, it's not. But it is only a logical conclusion based on anatomical observation: our navel, or belly button, is the scar left when the umbilical cord is cut after birth. The umbilical cord connects the foetus to the mother's placenta. Only placental viviparians have belly buttons.

As for being mamalians, they have the required anatomy for nursing...

Which brings me to a Samara motivational borrowed from the thread by the same name:

I just couldn't resist... (Credits: Cerrydd)

Modifié par Flamewielder, 04 avril 2010 - 01:46 .

[volly0071]

Flamewielder wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...
...us that they likely have an analogous birth-canal, but is it actually written somewhere that they are viviparous mammals?

... The umbilical cord connects the foetus to the mother's placenta. Only placental viviparians have belly buttons.

As for being mamalians, they have the required anatomy for nursing...

Which brings me to a Samara motivational borrowed from the thread by the same name:
*snip*
I just couldn't resist...

Your shameless, dude.

[7Makaveli]

We're hitting the century mark tonight, definitely



"I remember each being I have slain, they are always in my thoughts"



imagine how difficult it must be to meditate upon the many lives she has taken, and not for one second even question the cause for it.

[adriano_c]

7Makaveli wrote...

imagine how difficult it must be to meditate upon the many lives she has taken, and not for one second even question the cause for it.

It's somewhat bizarre, isn't it?

She's not a sociopath, so despite how suppressed her emotions may be in most cases, there's gotta be something going on there...one little twinge of guilt in this supposed sea of uncompromising resolve. I mean, as ingrained as this "code" is, can it really stamp out any inkling of remorse? She's characterized as a morally good person (relative to what we consider as such), afterall.

[Flamewielder]

7Makaveli wrote...

We're hitting the century mark tonight, definitely

"I remember each being I have slain, they are always in my thoughts"

imagine how difficult it must be to meditate upon the many lives she has taken, and not for one second even question the cause for it.

Indeed. The path of a Justicar is a hard one: to subsume one's own feelings for the higher cause of enforcing the Code. Sad, but also noble. In a race that can meld minds, I rather think Justicars are chosen VERY carefully (something humans are unable to do). They must be strict without lacking compassion. They must be smart and avoid the logical pitfalls that would result in them violating the Code.

Listening to Samara telling Shepard how, as she reached her matron years, she expected to enjoy her fair share of parental bliss before the doctors' diagnostic of the Ardat-Yakshi disorder ruined her dreams of a normal, happy motherhood; I was wondering what prompted Samara to have her 3 children tested.

I rather imagine that her eldest (Morinth?) possibly killed her first lover by accident at an age where young asari make out in the back of aircars... Morinth was likely traumatized by the experience, possibly scarring her emotionally. She'd have been arrested and tested, and her younger sisters tested as a precaution.

The younger siblings, never having melded, never developped the addiction and accepted the unfairness of their fate. Morinth, her sanity possibly compromised, embraced her nature and escaped, likely killing several in the process.

Samara's decision to become a Justicar was partly driven by motherly guilt over having raised a serial murderer. Her hopes of a normal happy life as a mother and matron were crushed and she had nothing left of real value in the world. What use is an empty house that will never fill with the comforting chatter of one's progeny? She had nothing left worth living for aside from stopping her child from killing again... Becoming a Justicar dedicated to the Code gave her purpose, a reason to go on living. She chased after Morinth for over 400 years, no doubt dispensing justice and saving many innocent lives along the way. Sometimes her duty must have pained her, other times it likely brought her happiness.

@volly Yes, I am shameless... in my appreciation of art...

[Flamewielder]

yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

One would think that during an intense battle, Samara's breasts could just possibly pop out of her outfit.  I have not noticed this yet though.  Has anyone noticed this and if so, do you have any screenshots to that effect?:innocent:

If you watch Samara's idle animations, one of them is of her trying as inconspicuously as possible to...adjust herself:

Yes, I noted the same thing. It's a very feminine gesture (I have a wife and 4 daughters, so I hear plenty about how uncomfortable a bra can be.

[Ragnarok Ekul]

spam for 100- page samara love

[7Makaveli]

adriano_c wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

imagine how difficult it must be to meditate upon the many lives she has taken, and not for one second even question the cause for it.

It's somewhat bizarre, isn't it?

She's not a sociopath, so despite how suppressed her emotions may be in most cases, there's gotta be something going on there...one little twinge of guilt in this supposed sea of uncompromising resolve. I mean, as ingrained as this "code" is, can it really stamp out any inkling of remorse? She's characterized as a morally good person (relative to what we consider as such), afterall.

She shows plenty of remorse when you take her to Collector ship and when hearing of Morinths murder on Omega, so the implication is that she does feel strongly about death in an emotional sense. That is what makes it doubly hard to understand how she uses death as her primary means to honor justice. Unjust death hurts her, justified death is just another Code upheld.

[7Makaveli]

Flamewielder wrote...

7Makaveli wrote...

We're hitting the century mark tonight, definitely

"I remember each being I have slain, they are always in my thoughts"

imagine how difficult it must be to meditate upon the many lives she has taken, and not for one second even question the cause for it.

Indeed. The path of a Justicar is a hard one: to subsume one's own feelings for the higher cause of enforcing the Code. Sad, but also noble. In a race that can meld minds, I rather think Justicars are chosen VERY carefully (something humans are unable to do). They must be strict without lacking compassion. They must be smart and avoid the logical pitfalls that would result in them violating the Code.

Listening to Samara telling Shepard how, as she reached her matron years, she expected to enjoy her fair share of parental bliss before the doctors' diagnostic of the Ardat-Yakshi disorder ruined her dreams of a normal, happy motherhood; I was wondering what prompted Samara to have her 3 children tested.

I rather imagine that her eldest (Morinth?) possibly killed her first lover by accident at an age where young asari make out in the back of aircars... Morinth was likely traumatized by the experience, possibly scarring her emotionally. She'd have been arrested and tested, and her younger sisters tested as a precaution.

The younger siblings, never having melded, never developped the addiction and accepted the unfairness of their fate. Morinth, her sanity possibly compromised, embraced her nature and escaped, likely killing several in the process.

Samara's decision to become a Justicar was partly driven by motherly guilt over having raised a serial murderer. Her hopes of a normal happy life as a mother and matron were crushed and she had nothing left of real value in the world. What use is an empty house that will never fill with the comforting chatter of one's progeny? She had nothing left worth living for aside from stopping her child from killing again... Becoming a Justicar dedicated to the Code gave her purpose, a reason to go on living. She chased after Morinth for over 400 years, no doubt dispensing justice and saving many innocent lives along the way. Sometimes her duty must have pained her, other times it likely brought her happiness.

@volly Yes, I am shameless... in my appreciation of art...

Absolutely, this story is so unique. We've seen plenty of father and son revenge stories (some even in this game), but a mother and daughter's bond should be so pure and innocent. A mother who taught and lectured her daughter on how to be a honorable maidan and eventually matron, has to instead bear the brunt that she birthed a monster. The two then go on and evolve into two of the most powerful beings in their race, and kill many along the way. I would think Samara would have crushed Morinth if she caught her earlier, but due to 400 years of Morinth feeding she became a formidable adversary for Samara.

[Ragnarok Ekul]

how do i get samara sig? haven't a clue

[Ragnarok Ekul]

is it there?