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[JamesMoriarty123]

The words you're looking for are genetically and phenotypically. Asari = genetically monogender but phenotypically female.

[ReDSH1FT]

Cluck Norris wrote...

Orogenic wrote...

Cluck Norris wrote...

Orogenic wrote...

Evil Johnny 666 wrote...

Orogenic wrote...

And for the love of god, those of you with brains PLEASE stop responding to these trolls. Once you've discovered someone has an IQ<80 there is no further reason to engage in debate.

I'm still baffled I take part of such forum arguments, PARTICULARLY videogame ones where it seems the average IQ is lower than anywhere else...

Then just stop.

I've actually made a couple calls to a few friends that went to law school.. I'm wondering if it might not be possible to bring charges against a couple of the posters here under hate crime legislation.

The time really has come for decent people to stop sitting quietly while ignorant bigots attack and abuse minority groups just because they think no one will stop them.

Those out there with similar minds please take some backup copies of the relevant posts here.

So how is that lawsuit against 4chan going, and Encyclopedia Dramatica going?

Typical. Instead of refuting points, you resort to making empty threats.

You aren't any better than the "gay bashers" that you claim to be against.

I wasn't talking about going after bioware, I was talking about going after individuals.  It seems very unlikely that this would even be legally possible, but hey it's worth a shot.

At the very least some of the kids reading this forum might take the time to consider the seriousness of posting hateful/ intolerant speech even on something as silly as an internet forum.

I can't say I've experienced this type of hate personally (I'm a WASP heterosexual male in the Southern US which makes me rather unlikely to experience discrimination) but I have seen the destructive effects of this cultural intolerance on many people that I have great respect for.

Words can hurt worse than thrown rocks, especially when they are aimed at young people.  I will not stand by and watch idiots merrily attack those that they percieve to be weaker and defective, even on an anonymous internet forum.  Those of you here that count yourselves as decent people should also refuse to sit idle while this type of abuse is ongoing.

Once again. Please, tell me how that lawsuit is going agains the people of 4chan, and Encyclopedia Dramatica?

It isn't. You have no merits whatsoever to sue someone because they hurt your fellings.

Welcome to the internet, idiot. Now sue me!

Reporting for /b/lackup!

[Kreid]

PaulBreen wrote...
Big post (don't worry I took time to read it all)

Honestly, the argument against it seems to boils down to "it's icky".  And frankly, if you think that way, then the rules of this forum prevent me from telling you what I think about you. *shrugs*

So, your point is just like everyone else's that:
A)there should be a homosexual male relationship option just for the sake of being and
that Ray Muzyka's statement is shallow because it doesn't fit you view.
And to make it even better you claim you would insult me if it weren't for the forum rules just because I think it's ridiculous for male Shepard to suddenly and inexplicably change his sexual preferences from one game to another.

[diskoh]

Cluck Norris wrote...


Female is how humans would describe them. I bet if you asked an asari, they would tell you that they have no sex or sense of gender. They are all one.

Ask Liara in ME1 when you are a female. If you are going to be ignorant about the universe I don't think you should even be arguing since you are obviously ignorant to the issue at hand.

Oh boy, stupid Bioware was all wrong about their universe. They should've consulted this dude before they wrote their codex refering to asari as female.

[Pannamaslo]

diskoh wrote...

Pannamaslo wrote...

I always though that their sex is female, but are gender neutral. Like in biological sex and cultural gender thing...

You're correct.

But this gender argument wouldn't fly in my language, since we have only one term for sex/gender. So in Polsih Asari are sex/gender females. So femShep is lesbian in some playthroughs.

Modifié par Pannamaslo, 07 février 2010 - 06:15 .

[illerianna]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Cluck Norris wrote...

Orogenic wrote...

Cluck Norris wrote...

Orogenic wrote...

Evil Johnny 666 wrote...

Orogenic wrote...

And for the love of god, those of you with brains PLEASE stop responding to these trolls. Once you've discovered someone has an IQ<80 there is no further reason to engage in debate.

I'm still baffled I take part of such forum arguments, PARTICULARLY videogame ones where it seems the average IQ is lower than anywhere else...

Then just stop.

I've actually made a couple calls to a few friends that went to law school.. I'm wondering if it might not be possible to bring charges against a couple of the posters here under hate crime legislation.

The time really has come for decent people to stop sitting quietly while ignorant bigots attack and abuse minority groups just because they think no one will stop them.

Those out there with similar minds please take some backup copies of the relevant posts here.

So how is that lawsuit against 4chan going, and Encyclopedia Dramatica going?

Typical. Instead of refuting points, you resort to making empty threats.

You aren't any better than the "gay bashers" that you claim to be against.

I wasn't talking about going after bioware, I was talking about going after individuals.  It seems very unlikely that this would even be legally possible, but hey it's worth a shot.

At the very least some of the kids reading this forum might take the time to consider the seriousness of posting hateful/ intolerant speech even on something as silly as an internet forum.

I can't say I've experienced this type of hate personally (I'm a WASP heterosexual male in the Southern US which makes me rather unlikely to experience discrimination) but I have seen the destructive effects of this cultural intolerance on many people that I have great respect for.

Words can hurt worse than thrown rocks, especially when they are aimed at young people.  I will not stand by and watch idiots merrily attack those that they percieve to be weaker and defective, even on an anonymous internet forum.  Those of you here that count yourselves as decent people should also refuse to sit idle while this type of abuse is ongoing.

Once again. Please, tell me how that lawsuit is going agains the people of 4chan, and Encyclopedia Dramatica?

It isn't. You have no merits whatsoever to sue someone because they hurt your fellings.

Welcome to the internet, idiot. Now sue me!

Reporting for /b/lackup!

Forum's closed do to RAEG.

[TheSpaceHamster]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

The words you're looking for are genetically and phenotypically. Asari = genetically monogender but phenotypically female.

So basically, it's like being from Kentucky?

[Khavos]

Cluck Norris wrote...

diskoh wrote...

Cluck Norris wrote...


And when you speak to Liara she tells you that they have no sense of gender.

I'll take Bioware's word over a typo on the codex.

Their sex is all-female. Gender is different than sex.

Female is how humans would describe them. I bet if you asked an asari, they would tell you that they have no sex or sense of gender. They are all one.

Ask Liara in ME1 when you are a female. If you are going to be ignorant about the universe I don't think you should even be arguing since you are obviously ignorant to the issue at hand.

Female is how they describe themselves.  They use female pronouns when referring to other asari.  Samara specifically refers to another asari as her daughter.  Liara refers to Benezia as her mother. 

But, you stated that "female is how humans would describe them."  Such as, say, a female Shepard.  Who can have sex with them.  You're trying very, very hard to make the point that FemShep can't have sex with another woman, because you painted yourself into a corner, but, as expected, give you enough time and you'll make the point for me. 

[TheSpaceHamster]

Didn't Commander Riker engage in "relations" with some species that had no gender identification..



...if it's good enough for Commander Riker, it's good enough for me!

[Orogenic]

Cluck Norris wrote...


Once again. Please, tell me how that lawsuit is going agains the people of 4chan, and Encyclopedia Dramatica?

It isn't. You have no merits whatsoever to sue someone because they hurt your fellings.

Welcome to the internet, idiot. Now sue me!

Your level of reading comprehension somehow does not surprise me...

Hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, class, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, or political affiliation.
"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts which are seen to have been motivated by hatred of one or more of the listed conditions. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).

Sorry, never heard of 4chan or encyclopedia dramatica.  I've got a busy life, screwing around with one video game (and lately with this forum) is about as far as my computer related time wasting goes.  I've never even bothered with facebook or myspace despite constant annoying requests from friends/ family.

[Russalka]

Hm, seeing in background how JamesMoriarty123 and ReDSH1FT stroke each other's egos, even on Cluck Norris, shows insecurity and bully behaviour though.



Trolls are trolls. But both sides show pathetic attempts, noone is truly right or wrong.

[PyroFreak301]

Oh, look at that.

It's Moriarty and ReDSH1FT spewing the same homophobic ignorance again.

Seriously, you should go find a religious extremist site or anti-gay groups to join and stop posting here. It's the only place you're gonna find people that are equally closed minded about these matters.

Still waiting Moriarty

[JamesMoriarty123]

Sure, everyone who has an opinion or who just doesn't like gays is insecure or a bully. Grow up.

EDIT : Pyro, read the thread. I will not succumb to trolling here. It was a mistake to rise to trolls like you last thread. You'll get no such satisfaction here.

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 07 février 2010 - 06:21 .

[padawanmage]

Darkest Dreamer wrote...

Man on man romance would only hurt the overall image of Shepherd as an icon, whether the gay community argues this point or not.

Some people have such an odd perception. So Shepard can't be gay because it might "hurt" his/her image?

Funny, I thought sacrificing the council would do this, or punching a scientist to help them relax, or joining an organisation with a history of sentient experimentation, or drinking alcohol, or romancing aliens, or watching semi-nude dancers, or accepting bribes, or chooosing to save an industry over a colony. Hey Shepard, feel free to kill, torture, sex up aliens, or blackmail as many people as you want but god forbid you be gay, that might just ruin your image and iconic status!

I'd prefer if Bioware simply stated that it made their writers uncomfortable than listen to some of the nonsensical excuses made by fans.

LOL, THIS! 

[Traumacrazy]

lol...wow this thread went WAY down hill

[Khavos]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Sure, everyone who has an opinion or who just doesn't like gays is insecure or a bully. Grow up.

EDIT : Pyro, read the thread. I will not succumb to trolling here. It was a mistake to rise to trolls like you last thread. You'll get no such satisfaction here.

So you admit to simply not liking gays, huh? 

[illerianna]

Orogenic wrote...

Cluck Norris wrote...


Once again. Please, tell me how that lawsuit is going agains the people of 4chan, and Encyclopedia Dramatica?

It isn't. You have no merits whatsoever to sue someone because they hurt your fellings.

Welcome to the internet, idiot. Now sue me!

Your level of reading comprehension somehow does not surprise me...

Hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, class, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, or political affiliation.
"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts which are seen to have been motivated by hatred of one or more of the listed conditions. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).

Sorry, never heard of 4chan or encyclopedia dramatica.  I've got a busy life, screwing around with one video game (and lately with this forum) is about as far as my computer related time wasting goes.  I've never even bothered with facebook or myspace despite constant annoying requests from friends/ family.

Honey, I just SS this and sent it to a very good (gay) friend of mine.

He laughed. Hard.

This is the INTERNET. If you want to file a hate-crime lawsuit against someone, I recommend Fred Phelps of Westboro Baptist Church. He actually DOES do hate crimes.

I don't see these guys out here with signs that say "****s die, God laughs."

They have an opinion. They have every right to voice it. Just because you don't agree with it does not mean you can pull the "hate-crime" card. Even most gays would say you're over reacting.

Chill out. Have a cookie, and calm down. This is the internet. You must be new here.

[JamesMoriarty123]

Khavos wrote...

So you admit to simply not liking gays, huh? 

Did I say that? Specifically?
And if I didn't like gays, thats my business.

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 07 février 2010 - 06:22 .

[diskoh]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Sure, everyone who doesn't like gays is insecure

Yep.

Modifié par diskoh, 07 février 2010 - 06:22 .

[Cluck Norris]

Orogenic wrote...

Cluck Norris wrote...


Once again. Please, tell me how that lawsuit is going agains the people of 4chan, and Encyclopedia Dramatica?

It isn't. You have no merits whatsoever to sue someone because they hurt your fellings.

Welcome to the internet, idiot. Now sue me!

Your level of reading comprehension somehow does not surprise me...

Hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, class, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, or political affiliation.
"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts which are seen to have been motivated by hatred of one or more of the listed conditions. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).

Sorry, never heard of 4chan or encyclopedia dramatica.  I've got a busy life, screwing around with one video game (and lately with this forum) is about as far as my computer related time wasting goes.  I've never even bothered with facebook or myspace despite constant annoying requests from friends/ family.

No surprise that you don't know two of the largest gathering places of hate on the internet. You are truly ignorant to the internet are you not? 

Let me guide you through the process. First, you need to make a case that people are doing "hate crimes." Has someone on these forums beat you up? Has someone threatened to kill all gays? No, they haven't.

Let us say you do get passed somehow with your outlandish claims. Then, your lawyer has to go through both Bioware, and EA. Get the IP Address. Then they would have to go to the ISP, and find out who the person is.

Unless someone sent you a death thread, then you have no merett for a lawsuit at all. Or if they said they would physically harm you.

Like I said. Welcome to the internet, idiot. Oh, did I hurt your feelings calling you an idiot? I must be charged with hate crimes because I just insulted a mentally challenged person (you) on the internet.

Sue me!

I would love to be your lawyer friend. You know why? Because I can easily get money from consulting you on something that won't go far at all.

[Traumacrazy]

Orogenic wrote...

Cluck Norris wrote...


Once again. Please, tell me how that lawsuit is going agains the people of 4chan, and Encyclopedia Dramatica?

It isn't. You have no merits whatsoever to sue someone because they hurt your fellings.

Welcome to the internet, idiot. Now sue me!

Your level of reading comprehension somehow does not surprise me...

Hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, class, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, or political affiliation.
"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts which are seen to have been motivated by hatred of one or more of the listed conditions. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).

Sorry, never heard of 4chan or encyclopedia dramatica.  I've got a busy life, screwing around with one video game (and lately with this forum) is about as far as my computer related time wasting goes.  I've never even bothered with facebook or myspace despite constant annoying requests from friends/ family.

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[JamesMoriarty123]

diskoh wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Sure, everyone who doesn't like gays is insecure

Yep.

Lol...just...lol.

[Russalka]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Sure, everyone who has an opinion or who just doesn't like gays is insecure or a bully. Grow up.

EDIT : Pyro, read the thread. I will not succumb to trolling here. It was a mistake to rise to trolls like you last thread. You'll get no such satisfaction here.

I said nothing about your opinion, but about the way you deliver it. Provoking doesn't help much for sane discussion.

[Pannamaslo]

Orogenic wrote...

Cluck Norris wrote...


Once again. Please, tell me how that lawsuit is going agains the people of 4chan, and Encyclopedia Dramatica?

It isn't. You have no merits whatsoever to sue someone because they hurt your fellings.

Welcome to the internet, idiot. Now sue me!

Your level of reading comprehension somehow does not surprise me...

Hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, class, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, or political affiliation.
"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts which are seen to have been motivated by hatred of one or more of the listed conditions. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).

Sorry, never heard of 4chan or encyclopedia dramatica.  I've got a busy life, screwing around with one video game (and lately with this forum) is about as far as my computer related time wasting goes.  I've never even bothered with facebook or myspace despite constant annoying requests from friends/ family.

LOL. Suing someone for posts? Srsly? I think any judge would choke from laughter seeing this. At least here:lol:

Modifié par Pannamaslo, 07 février 2010 - 06:24 .