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RighteousRage wrote...
Endurance_117 wrote...
Endurance_117 wrote...
People calling me a homophobe, I have never said I don't want gay relationships in Mass Effect.
Seems like you are the ones trolling and hate mongering
Can anyone refute this?
No, but they can throw red herrings and useless heckling at you to defend their e-dignity
RighteousRage wrote...
Endurance_117 wrote...
Endurance_117 wrote...
People calling me a homophobe, I have never said I don't want gay relationships in Mass Effect.
Seems like you are the ones trolling and hate mongering
Can anyone refute this?
No, but they can throw red herrings and useless heckling at you to defend their e-dignity
RighteousRage wrote...
Russalka wrote...
RighteousRage wrote...
The only people that are actually addressing the issue at hand are not even arguing anymore. People like endurance_117 just come on and post direct quotes from CEOs at Bioware saying that they specifically designed Shepard to be a certain way, and that the character isn't supposed to represent you or your exact choices. This is why the dialogue wheel doesn't clearly represent what Shepard is going to say. There's no point in discussing. The reason that male Shepard cannot have gay sex is because he is not gay. Mario RPG was an RPG, and there weren't even any romances in that. Oh my god, it is discriminating against people with sexual preferences.
Get over yourselves.
But Shepard is a lesbian.
If someone is male then they cannot be lesbian, therefore your rebuttal is defeasible. If you mean say that female Shepard is lesbian, then fine, I can see how you would say that, but it still makes no difference. It merely means Bioware designed the female Shepard to be lesbian and the male Shepard to be heterosexual. Is this the point you are trying to argue against?
DoctorOctagonapus wrote...
RighteousRage wrote...
Russalka wrote...
RighteousRage wrote...
The only people that are actually addressing the issue at hand are not even arguing anymore. People like endurance_117 just come on and post direct quotes from CEOs at Bioware saying that they specifically designed Shepard to be a certain way, and that the character isn't supposed to represent you or your exact choices. This is why the dialogue wheel doesn't clearly represent what Shepard is going to say. There's no point in discussing. The reason that male Shepard cannot have gay sex is because he is not gay. Mario RPG was an RPG, and there weren't even any romances in that. Oh my god, it is discriminating against people with sexual preferences.
Get over yourselves.
But Shepard is a lesbian.
If someone is male then they cannot be lesbian, therefore your rebuttal is defeasible. If you mean say that female Shepard is lesbian, then fine, I can see how you would say that, but it still makes no difference. It merely means Bioware designed the female Shepard to be lesbian and the male Shepard to be heterosexual. Is this the point you are trying to argue against?
female Shepard isn't necessarily lesbian. She can be either, why not male Shepard? Every aspect of Shepard is almost entirely in the player's control, EXCEPT for a guy boning a guy. The explanation is probably more along the lines of "making Shepard be possibly gay would put off our male fanbase" There is nothing wrong with this line of thinking, it may even make good buisness sense. But to say that he's not gay because he's a pre-Defined character is rediculous.
DoctorOctagonapus wrote...
here you go
http://healthmad.com...ality-and-aids/
Modifié par Russalka, 07 février 2010 - 08:05 .
diskoh wrote...
DoctorOctagonapus wrote...
here you go
http://healthmad.com...ality-and-aids/
CDC is an american org. You realize America isn't the only country in the world, right?
http://journals.lww....rete_the.2.aspx
Heterosexual transmission accounts for most new cases of HIV-1 infection each year. Recent reports from the World Health Organization estimate that a total
of 39.4 million people are now infected with HIV-1 worldwide, 90% of
whom live in developing countries
illerianna wrote...
DoctorOctagonapus wrote...
RighteousRage wrote...
Russalka wrote...
RighteousRage wrote...
The only people that are actually addressing the issue at hand are not even arguing anymore. People like endurance_117 just come on and post direct quotes from CEOs at Bioware saying that they specifically designed Shepard to be a certain way, and that the character isn't supposed to represent you or your exact choices. This is why the dialogue wheel doesn't clearly represent what Shepard is going to say. There's no point in discussing. The reason that male Shepard cannot have gay sex is because he is not gay. Mario RPG was an RPG, and there weren't even any romances in that. Oh my god, it is discriminating against people with sexual preferences.
Get over yourselves.
But Shepard is a lesbian.
If someone is male then they cannot be lesbian, therefore your rebuttal is defeasible. If you mean say that female Shepard is lesbian, then fine, I can see how you would say that, but it still makes no difference. It merely means Bioware designed the female Shepard to be lesbian and the male Shepard to be heterosexual. Is this the point you are trying to argue against?
female Shepard isn't necessarily lesbian. She can be either, why not male Shepard? Every aspect of Shepard is almost entirely in the player's control, EXCEPT for a guy boning a guy. The explanation is probably more along the lines of "making Shepard be possibly gay would put off our male fanbase" There is nothing wrong with this line of thinking, it may even make good buisness sense. But to say that he's not gay because he's a pre-Defined character is rediculous.
QFT
diskoh wrote...
DoctorOctagonapus wrote...
here you go
http://healthmad.com...ality-and-aids/
CDC is an american org. You realize America isn't the only country in the world, right?
http://journals.lww....rete_the.2.aspx
Heterosexual transmission accounts for most new cases of HIV-1 infection each year. Recent reports from the World Health Organization estimate that a total
of 39.4 million people are now infected with HIV-1 worldwide, 90% of
whom live in developing countries
Endurance_117 wrote...
Ray Muzyka is the General Manager and CEO at BioWare Corp. If he says Shepard is pre-defined then Shepard is pre-defined
Endurance_117 wrote...
Ray Muzyka is the General Manager and CEO at BioWare Corp. If he says Shepard is pre-defined then Shepard is pre-defined
Modifié par illerianna, 07 février 2010 - 08:09 .
Endurance_117 wrote...
illerianna wrote...
DoctorOctagonapus wrote...
RighteousRage wrote...
Russalka wrote...
RighteousRage wrote...
The only people that are actually addressing the issue at hand are not even arguing anymore. People like endurance_117 just come on and post direct quotes from CEOs at Bioware saying that they specifically designed Shepard to be a certain way, and that the character isn't supposed to represent you or your exact choices. This is why the dialogue wheel doesn't clearly represent what Shepard is going to say. There's no point in discussing. The reason that male Shepard cannot have gay sex is because he is not gay. Mario RPG was an RPG, and there weren't even any romances in that. Oh my god, it is discriminating against people with sexual preferences.
Get over yourselves.
But Shepard is a lesbian.
If someone is male then they cannot be lesbian, therefore your rebuttal is defeasible. If you mean say that female Shepard is lesbian, then fine, I can see how you would say that, but it still makes no difference. It merely means Bioware designed the female Shepard to be lesbian and the male Shepard to be heterosexual. Is this the point you are trying to argue against?
female Shepard isn't necessarily lesbian. She can be either, why not male Shepard? Every aspect of Shepard is almost entirely in the player's control, EXCEPT for a guy boning a guy. The explanation is probably more along the lines of "making Shepard be possibly gay would put off our male fanbase" There is nothing wrong with this line of thinking, it may even make good buisness sense. But to say that he's not gay because he's a pre-Defined character is rediculous.
QFT
Ray Muzyka is the General Manager and CEO at BioWare Corp. If he says Shepard is pre-defined then Shepard is pre-defined
diskoh wrote...
Endurance_117 wrote...
Ray Muzyka is the General Manager and CEO at BioWare Corp. If he says Shepard is pre-defined then Shepard is pre-defined
Yet he never said Shepard isn't gay.
diskoh wrote...
Endurance_117 wrote...
Ray Muzyka is the General Manager and CEO at BioWare Corp. If he says Shepard is pre-defined then Shepard is pre-defined
Yet he never said Shepard isn't gay.
DoctorOctagonapus wrote...
RighteousRage wrote...
Russalka wrote...
RighteousRage wrote...
The only people that are actually addressing the issue at hand are not even arguing anymore. People like endurance_117 just come on and post direct quotes from CEOs at Bioware saying that they specifically designed Shepard to be a certain way, and that the character isn't supposed to represent you or your exact choices. This is why the dialogue wheel doesn't clearly represent what Shepard is going to say. There's no point in discussing. The reason that male Shepard cannot have gay sex is because he is not gay. Mario RPG was an RPG, and there weren't even any romances in that. Oh my god, it is discriminating against people with sexual preferences.
Get over yourselves.
But Shepard is a lesbian.
If someone is male then they cannot be lesbian, therefore your rebuttal is defeasible. If you mean say that female Shepard is lesbian, then fine, I can see how you would say that, but it still makes no difference. It merely means Bioware designed the female Shepard to be lesbian and the male Shepard to be heterosexual. Is this the point you are trying to argue against?
female Shepard isn't necessarily lesbian. She can be either, why not male Shepard? Every aspect of Shepard is almost entirely in the player's control, EXCEPT for a guy boning a guy. The explanation is probably more along the lines of "making Shepard be possibly gay would put off our male fanbase" There is nothing wrong with this line of thinking, it may even make good buisness sense. But to say that he's not gay because he's a pre-Defined character is rediculous.
DoctorOctagonapus wrote...
Endurance_117 wrote...
illerianna wrote...
DoctorOctagonapus wrote...
RighteousRage wrote...
Russalka wrote...
RighteousRage wrote...
The only people that are actually addressing the issue at hand are not even arguing anymore. People like endurance_117 just come on and post direct quotes from CEOs at Bioware saying that they specifically designed Shepard to be a certain way, and that the character isn't supposed to represent you or your exact choices. This is why the dialogue wheel doesn't clearly represent what Shepard is going to say. There's no point in discussing. The reason that male Shepard cannot have gay sex is because he is not gay. Mario RPG was an RPG, and there weren't even any romances in that. Oh my god, it is discriminating against people with sexual preferences.
Get over yourselves.
But Shepard is a lesbian.
If someone is male then they cannot be lesbian, therefore your rebuttal is defeasible. If you mean say that female Shepard is lesbian, then fine, I can see how you would say that, but it still makes no difference. It merely means Bioware designed the female Shepard to be lesbian and the male Shepard to be heterosexual. Is this the point you are trying to argue against?
female Shepard isn't necessarily lesbian. She can be either, why not male Shepard? Every aspect of Shepard is almost entirely in the player's control, EXCEPT for a guy boning a guy. The explanation is probably more along the lines of "making Shepard be possibly gay would put off our male fanbase" There is nothing wrong with this line of thinking, it may even make good buisness sense. But to say that he's not gay because he's a pre-Defined character is rediculous.
QFT
Ray Muzyka is the General Manager and CEO at BioWare Corp. If he says Shepard is pre-defined then Shepard is pre-defined
And if he said that Shepard is a flying elephant who lives in Kentucky?
That was my first post in this discussion but okay..... since you know better.Khavos wrote...
GrimmjawJin wrote...
You guys have way too much time on your hands or nothing better to do with your lives if you fight over this nonsense for more than 25 pages.......
Hilariously ironic post is hilariously ironic.
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