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[DigitalLiquid I]

Pannamaslo wrote...

It's settled there won't be any gay options. Why to beat, kick and bash a dead horse?

Beating dead horses' is fun, you not a fan?

[sos986]

i think this argument shows the homosexual mentality that you can force someone into being homosexual at their whim; understand you can play shepard anyway you want. perhaps there can be an offworld homosexual to court ME3. or perhaps you should search amazon for homosexual space invaders 3.

[DigitalLiquid I]

Kordaris wrote...

DigitalLiquid I wrote...

I can understand where you're coming from but romance is a very large part of Mass Effect, many other Bioware games for that matter. You just need to accept that, if you don't like that option you may be playing the wrong games.

Wellll...It was also a very big part of DA, but DA managed to give a completely well though of character development and storyline that you could have without engaging in romance. ME2-not so much, you just can't avoid walking on it...
It would be better if they would allow to have choice in that regard-like I said, sometimes you engage in conversations and suddenly-What ?! We are in love ?!

I actually thought DA was the exact opposite. In ME2 you can have 1 romance that actually plays out all the way through. In DA it's very easy to get someone into you, i ended up romancing all but 1 character in my first play through, it just felt pointless in the end. At least in ME2 you can have 1 romance that you play through to the end.

[JamesMoriarty123]

Chaos-fusion wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

I already stated elsewhere that if they were to introduce a new gay character for ME3 I wouldn't be opposed to it, as long as I could decline him early on, and get to know his backstory as a comrade in arms. And as long as the gay vibe wasn't broadcast right in my face, I mean he would have to be a manly gay guy, like Louis out of the John Connoly novels, big, black, gay, sharp dressing assassin, and cool as **** to boot.

As long as they don't mess with the current character set. That's my main concern. But tbh, I'd be just as happy if no gay option were introduced as even with the option to decline, it would still be there, you could still turn this galaxy saving Alpha Male into a gay..where you couldn't in the previous 2 games so again, its about breaking the immersion.

I see. Why can't the alpha male be gay? Allowing a f/f romance in the first didn't stop my femshep being less feminine. she didn't end up being a stereotypical butch lass with a deep voice and too much testosterone.

I do not understand the "it wasn't in the first 2 games" option. Again, I need to bring up the Tali thing; there is nothing even remotely flirty with her in the first ME, so she shouldn't be an option in ME2? It's the same thing after all.

It's fairly simple, the fact that in the first 2 epic adventures Shepherd never even had the option to be gay, but he had the chance to bed a lot of lovelies, cementing him as a straight guy. If the option's had been there all along, this wouldn't be an issue, but to suddenly introduce it would break the immersion factor a significant portion of the fanbase.

Also, Tali's relationship is totally valid, how many times in life do friends become lovers?

[JamesMoriarty123]

But like the guy said, why beat a dead horse? At this point in time it's pretty much settled.

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 07 février 2010 - 04:12 .

[Cat Fancy]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

But like the guy said, why beat a dead horse? It this point in time it's pretty much settled.

So you started this topic because...?

[JamesMoriarty123]

umwhatyousay wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

But like the guy said, why beat a dead horse? It this point in time it's pretty much settled.

So you started this topic because...?

I didn't have knowledge of the article at the time of my OP.
http://xbox360.ign.c.../1066954p2.html

[AlanC9]

Dead horse or not, this thread is still worth visiting for this sort of post. Even the Colbert Report doesn't deliver thiskind of idiocy

sos986 wrote...

i think this argument shows the homosexual mentality that you can force someone into being homosexual at their whim; understand you can play shepard anyway you want.

The weird part is that he seems to be agreeing with the opposition.

[Chaos-fusion]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

It's fairly simple, the fact that in the first 2 epic adventures Shepherd never even had the option to be gay, but he had the chance to bed a lot of lovelies, cementing him as a straight guy. If the option's had been there all along, this wouldn't be an issue, but to suddenly introduce it would break the immersion factor a significant portion of the fanbase.

Also, Tali's relationship is totally valid, how many times in life do friends become lovers?

Often enough, but that is not what I mean. You're saying it shouldn't be an option because it's not been so far (your arguement is based solely on that) but that's what Tali was- not an option for the first game. There was no hint of that, exactly the same as there being no hint of Sheperd being gay. That Tali is a woman is irrelivent.

Modifié par Chaos-fusion, 07 février 2010 - 04:20 .

[haberman13]

I think most of us are born with a natural attraction for the opposite sex, so something seems off about man on man. I don't care of someone is gay, that is their choice, but I believe there is a biologically created "gross-out" to the whole idea from heteros. (low level instinctual procreation stuff)



Female on female on the other hand just sounds fun, so there is no biological-imperative to reject the idea.



That and the 2 gay people I know are into drugs and insane amounts of promiscuos lovin', I just can't picture Shepard that way so seeing the dialogue options for him going down that route would seem out of place.



IMO

[JamesMoriarty123]

Chaos-fusion wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

It's fairly simple, the fact that in the first 2 epic adventures Shepherd never even had the option to be gay, but he had the chance to bed a lot of lovelies, cementing him as a straight guy. If the option's had been there all along, this wouldn't be an issue, but to suddenly introduce it would break the immersion factor a significant portion of the fanbase.

Also, Tali's relationship is totally valid, how many times in life do friends become lovers?

Often enough, but that is not what I mean. You're saying it shouldn't be an option because it's not been so far (your arguement is based solely on that) but that's what Tali was- not an option for the first game. There was no hint of that, exactly the same as there being no hint of Sheperd being gay. That Tali is a woman is irrelivent.

Not really, Shepherd could always romance women, but he could never romance a man. The fact that Tali just wasn't available or was too shy or just wanted to be friends at that point doesn't exclude her from ME2. My point is that it was never available to romance a man. You could ALWAYS romance women.

[diskoh]

Commander Shepard is quite obviously bisexual, whether official romance options are in the game or not. He flirts with pretty much every guy on the ship.

[sos986]

i don't oppose shepard being homosexual, i oppose predefined characters being homosexual, i hate the idea that thane or kaiden (who seem to be most talked about.) would be sitting around, waiting for you to make a sexual prefrence.

[JamesMoriarty123]

haberman13 wrote...

Female on female on the other hand just sounds fun, so there is no biological-imperative to reject the idea.

IMO

Lol, unless you are a straight female? Come on fella, put a bit of thought into it ;P

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 07 février 2010 - 04:27 .

[AlanC9]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

It's fairly simple, the fact that in the first 2 epic adventures Shepherd never even had the option to be gay, but he had the chance to bed a lot of lovelies, cementing him as a straight guy. 

That doesn't follow. Shepard is cemented as a straight guy if the player actually has him going though with bedding some women. Otherwise, all you've shown is that he's attractive to women, which isn't at all the same thing.

Unless there's ME2 content where Shepard is clearly shown as being attracted to women regardless of player input. Thanks to my vidcard acting up I haven't seen any yet. If there is, can you provide details?

[Endurance_117]

diskoh wrote...

Commander Shepard is quite obviously bisexual, whether official romance options are in the game or not. He flirts with pretty much every guy on the ship.

lol no

http://xbox360.ign.c.../1066954p2.html

[JamesMoriarty123]

AlanC9 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

It's fairly simple, the fact that in the first 2 epic adventures Shepherd never even had the option to be gay, but he had the chance to bed a lot of lovelies, cementing him as a straight guy. 

That doesn't follow. Shepard is cemented as a straight guy if the player actually has him going though with bedding some women. Otherwise, all you've shown is that he's attractive to women, which isn't at all the same thing.

Unless there's ME2 content where Shepard is clearly shown as being attracted to women regardless of player input. Thanks to my vidcard acting up I haven't seen any yet. If there is, can you provide details?

Alan,
http://xbox360.ign.c.../1066954p2.html

Let it die. As previously stated, no good beating a dead horse. Gay romance looks like it isn't on the cards. So the debate is over until we hear otherwise.
Also, Shepherd doesn't flirt with any men at all. Unless you regard just talking flirting.

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 07 février 2010 - 04:29 .

[Endurance_117]

AlanC9 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

It's fairly simple, the fact that in the first 2 epic adventures Shepherd never even had the option to be gay, but he had the chance to bed a lot of lovelies, cementing him as a straight guy. 

That doesn't follow. Shepard is cemented as a straight guy if the player actually has him going though with bedding some women. Otherwise, all you've shown is that he's attractive to women, which isn't at all the same thing.

Unless there's ME2 content where Shepard is clearly shown as being attracted to women regardless of player input. Thanks to my vidcard acting up I haven't seen any yet. If there is, can you provide details?

When Garrus says women are always are hitting on him and now Sheppard has a Chance and Male Shepard laughs because he knows he gets all the women

[Chaos-fusion]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Not really, Shepherd could always romance women, but he could never romance a man. The fact that Tali just wasn't available or was too shy or just wanted to be friends at that point doesn't exclude her from ME2. My point is that it was never available to romance a man. You could ALWAYS romance women.

Ah, you continue to miss my point. Agree to disagree?

[ReDSH1FT]

Ahhhh Moriarty, holding the line I see. I noticed my thread got locked. Also read that IGN article. I'm SOOOOOOO happy there won't be a ****** option for these loons.

[Cat Fancy]

haberman13 wrote...

I think most of us are born with a natural attraction for the opposite sex, so something seems off about man on man. I don't care of someone is gay, that is their choice, but I believe there is a biologically created "gross-out" to the whole idea from heteros. (low level instinctual procreation stuff)

Female on female on the other hand just sounds fun, so there is no biological-imperative to reject the idea.

...whuh?

[ReDSH1FT]

sos986 wrote...

i don't oppose shepard being homosexual, i oppose predefined characters being homosexual, i hate the idea that thane or kaiden (who seem to be most talked about.) would be sitting around, waiting for you to make a sexual prefrence.

And according to you Shepard isn't predefined?  Did you even read the IGN article or do you sit there on your throne of infinite wisdom making stupid comments?

[Pannamaslo]

DigitalLiquid I wrote...

Pannamaslo wrote...

It's settled there won't be any gay options. Why to beat, kick and bash a dead horse?

Beating dead horses' is fun, you not a fan?

It's just there is nothing left to beat. Just smear on the floor...