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[Willowhugger]

Ironically, the problem for me is the fact that I engaged with a lot of the characters more than I did in ME1.  Zaeed, Samara, and Thane not showing up in ME3 is entirely understandable.  Zaeed is richer than God now, Samara is a wandering samurai who will wander away after this mission, and Thane is going to die.  The problem is that the other characters are pretty deeply and intimately tied to our heroes.  Them suddenly disappearing in Mass Effect 3 is going to be a rather serious loss.

To sound like a broken record (at least on these forums), Tali and Shepard are "it" and together forever.  Yet, I worry that Bioware will have her leave Shepard simply because it'll be easier to do than not implement her dialogue permanently into the game.  Garrus too would follow Shepard into Hell, so where the Hell would he go?

I also have difficulty believing Grunt, Jacob, Legion, and Jack would ever leave his side.

[Rubber65Soul]

They have their hands full figuring out this mess now.. lol.. Id love to see most of them return but I just dont think it will happen..

[That Confused 1]

2 years while Shepard was being rebuilt is enough time to take a highly trained Alliance marine and place them a training program to give a chance of becoming a new Specter...

[Willowhugger]

I hope there's a way to get back essential dead crewman. Like fighting a Reaper ship and finding Tali and Garrus there in its hold.

1. They were restored where their bodies were stolen by agents of the Reapers. if they died.

2. They were kidnapped from their homeworlds if they lived.

Modifié par Willowhugger, 07 février 2010 - 04:13 .

[Crysis I]

trust me i think bioware will please the fans i think all the squad will be playable thats 14 in total. 14 isnt too many as theres already 11 and rumored to be a 12th on 2 so i really have a good feeling all the team will return for 3.

Modifié par Crysis I, 07 février 2010 - 04:13 .

[Tyreal42a]

Depending on the time that passes between ME2 and 3, I would add Mordin to the list of understandably absent characters in the third and (hopefully not) final chapter of Shepard's story. He's very old by Salarian standards.

This isn't playing favourites, either. Mordin was my favourite character in ME2.

Modifié par Tyreal42a, 07 février 2010 - 04:16 .

[Braag]

Well that's kinda complicated, I doubt any of the members from ME2 will be in your squad in ME3. Considering you can transfer your save file to ME3 and say Tali is in your squad in ME3 but what if she died in ME2 in your save file? Will you simply have one less squad member or will she be replaced by someone? And same can be said about all the other squad members.... I can only imagine what a pain it is to develop ME3 with all the things that can happen in the previous games, how are they gonna work it all together?

[Cutlass Jack]

Yeah I loved Mordin but I could see him being fairly easy to drop as a Squadmate in ME3. He'd likely be off doing some research on either the Genophage or something to help in the final battle.



Thane will likely be dead if the game takes place further than a year in the future. Or at least to sick to be an active fighter.



Zaeed would likely move on. He's older and only was paid for one mission.



Samara would also move on following the mission per her own words. But she did say she'd be there if you ever needed her, so certainly an excuse to bring her back.



Wrex I love but I doubt he'll be a squadmate unless something goes horribly wrong with him leading his people. The more likely role will be him leading the Krogan to aid you in the final fight.



Grunt could go either way. Stick with you or want to go spend more time with his people.



But all the rest have high motivation for sticking around. Especially if they're loyal and/or romantic interests.

[Griever54]

Well with the option of every member of your squad dieing in ME2, it'll affect the story a great deal in ME3 depending who died and who didn't. This means that all the characters that survived in ME2 will have surprisingly little/nothing to do with the main story in ME3.

[Dizzy473]

That Confused 1 wrote...

2 years while Shepard was being rebuilt is enough time to take a highly trained Alliance marine and place them a training program to give a chance of becoming a new Specter...

Hmmm, well I'm sure that I've read that Mass Effect 1-3 could be described as the Shepard Story.  So I seriously doubt they'll just make a new "nobody" hero. Maybe I've missed what you're trying to say.

Thats why I found the "My shep died what'll happen in ME3?" threads a bit confusing.  One of the loading screens says "Import your saves into ME3...if you survive".  If you have a Jack Shepard, imported from ME1 and he dies at the end of ME2 then that particular Jack Shepards story is over and he won't be the hero in ME3.  If another of your Jack Shepards makes it through on another playthrough...he will.

Which is why I can't wait to see how they'll figure this mess out. Your character from ME1 to ME3 will have made a huge range of choices.  The big ones (council surviving/dying, who the human council rep is, destroying/keeping collector base, etc) are pretty straightforward.  The small ones (who survived, who is loyal, who was recruited, who was sheps LI, etc) are much more numerous and in some ways more involving as you get attached to certain characters, they're your favourites.

It'll be interesting to see what they come up with.

[Internet Kraken]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but by this point isn't Liara the only squad member that can't be killed? So that means we have 13 (I think) squadmembers that may or may not be dead. How exactly is BioWare going to deal with this? Are they all just going to be mysteriously absent with no one ever mentioning them if they died? That would be kinda of lame. I'd expect to get a lot of hate if I went to the Flotilla after killing Tali.

Modifié par Internet Kraken, 07 février 2010 - 04:26 .

[Jeremy Winston]

I don't seem to recall any story line that required multiple squad mates to be around. The simplest is that dead squad members are just dead. They don't appear in the next game and any game-specific content for that member is missed.



If you need to interact with the Quarian fleet, dialog will change based on Tali being alive or dead, but the overall mission and goals can stay the same.



If you want to carry over your ME2 game, then it carries over. Whoever you killed in ME1 stays dead in ME2 and will not return in ME3. No reason to assume otherwise with our characters. If they add another 3-4 squad members and you got out of ME2 with one other member (if that's possible) then you might only have a small pool to choose from.

[Melra]

Willowhugger wrote...

I hope there's a way to get back essential dead crewman. Like fighting a Reaper ship and finding Tali and Garrus there in its hold.

1. They were restored where their bodies were stolen by agents of the Reapers. if they died.

2. They were kidnapped from their homeworlds if they lived.

That would hurt the story quite a bit, since if nobody stays dead anymore, then the missions like ''Suicide mission'' would lose quite a bit of ground.

[Tyreal42a]

Personally, I think a mix would be best. Zaeed, Samara, Mordin, Thane move on. Wrex remains king. Assuming they survive.

Legion, Tali, Garrus, Miranda, Jacob, Grunt, Jack, Ashley/Kaidan, Liara can potentially return if they're alive.

Add 4 new characters.

So if you've gotten as many killed as possible, you'll have a respectable 6 squad mates (Same as ME1).

If you've saved as many as possible, you will have 13.

Modifié par Tyreal42a, 07 février 2010 - 04:29 .

[Brahlis]

You know what would make this a lot more simple?



Samara leaves as does one other person (perhaps Thane due to sickness or Legion), Ashley/Kaiden + Liara return.



Exact same amount of Diaglogue in ME2.



How is that so hard to comprehend?

[Nuclear]

I would love to have all my squad mates in ME3 but it is somewhat hard to believe. Thane is dying, Mordin is quite old (according to ME2 site he is 50, Salarians have avg. 40 yrs i think), Zaeed will probably run off for more money, Samara will go back to Asari space and Grunt may go back to Tuchanka. Miranda probably would go back to doing jobs for Illusive Man, but maybe Jacob will stay with Shepard, not sure with him. Garrus will stay with Shepard definitely and probably Tali too if she was exiled. Jack may start wondering, Legion might return to the geth, Morinth will go back to murdering (I havent actually had her yet but it seems most likely).



Of course I could be entirely wrong and they all stay together like one big happy family fighting the reapers. I hope so at least.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

I reckon they have got a major piece of work on their hands. Not just because of the deaths but also, because some of them you can choose not to recruit.



My Renegade FemShep on my first playthrough didn't recruit Samara or Tali and sent Legion back to Cerberus (granted the third is easy to implement as it is a given choice). Way I figure it, no recruiting Tali = Tali is dead on Haestrom. Samara not recruited, I would imagine she eventually left Ilium to continue her search for her daughter, so both Samara and Morinth could make a cameo or just be mentioned or nothing at all in this instance. If you don't recruit Thane, he probably just continued on his journey, not sure whether he would've got the whole thing with his son but he probably end up dead anyway.



The question is whether they will account for all the possibilities?



I think Wrex will possibly continue the same he has in ME2 albeit you'll be able to call on him to unite the Krogan and help go to war with the Reapers.



If you did recruit Tali and do her loyalty quest and ensure she is cleared, she hints in ME2 that she is being tipped to take her father's role, although the initial email you get from the Quarians is that she can remain with Shepherd as long as he needs her, though the same message also warns Shepherd that she has to survive or else there will be trouble. So Tali useful for making peace between Quarians and Geth (possibly Legion helps in this too if he is still alive).



The rest could easily come back, although not entirely sure if Zaeed and possibly not Kasumi (she's a thief after all) will feature, maybe in cameo or mentioned but not sure if they'll be added properly in ME3, dunno though maybe they will.



But yeah with the stuff being carried from ME and the new stuff from ME2 and all the different LI choices and who survived/who was recruited choices, I can imagine it'll be a nightmare to get it right.

[cyvaris]

Didn't one of the Devs(Christina?)say something somewere about not having to worry about continuity as much in 3. As in decisions can be WAY more divergent. This leads me to believe that we will see anyone who lived and that we probably will either unite the galaxy or crush it under humanity. I really hope we do get most if not all of the squadmates back, but Tali and Garrus especially. They have been through so much why leave them out now?

[Dizzy473]

...and Mordin. That guy has to come back, ME2 wouldn't have been the same without him.

[Mox Ruuga]

Willowhugger wrote...

I hope there's a way to get back essential dead crewman. Like fighting a Reaper ship and finding Tali and Garrus there in its hold.

1. They were restored where their bodies were stolen by agents of the Reapers. if they died.

2. They were kidnapped from their homeworlds if they lived.

No no no No NO!

Good grief, the whole premise here is to make our choices count! Not invalidate them by bringing people back from death! You will get your scenes and emails with Tali and Garrus in ME3, if you got them through the mission alive. But their character shields, which they had in ME1, were removed for a reason in ME2.

In my game, dead quarian is dead. She got a mass accelerator slug in the head, and was put in a casket.

[Willowhugger]

No no no No NO!

Good grief, the whole premise here is to make our choices count! Not invalidate them by bringing people back from death! You will get your scenes and emails with Tali and Garrus in ME3, if you got them through the mission alive. But their character shields, which they had in ME1, were removed for a reason in ME2.

In my game, dead quarian is dead. She got a mass accelerator slug in the head, and was put in a casket.

If it's a choice between no Tali Zora vas Normandy as a squadmate versus Tali Zora vas Normandy as a squadmate, I'll swallow a lot of b*******.

[Talogrungi]

Brahlis wrote...

How is that so hard to comprehend?

Erm, the whole "every squad member can die at the end" bit kinda complicates this a tad.

[Cataclysmatic]

They only die if you pick the wrong ones to go out on the separate missions.. along with your own speed... I kept all member alive. Just pick the right ones.

[Brahlis]

Talogrungi wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

How is that so hard to comprehend?

Erm, the whole "every squad member can die at the end" bit kinda complicates this a tad.

No it doesn't. Common sense tells you that Samara will definitely leave the team after ME2. They could easily work out another not-so-popular character. And of course Zaeed would leave. That makes three spaces, two at minimum.

You add in two characters (which would bring it back up to ME2's squad total) Kaiden/Ashely (depending on who survived) and Liara. Voila. You have everyone from both games excluding some nobodies, and at minimum the same amount of dialogue from ME2.

Wow, that was so hard.

Modifié par Brahlis, 07 février 2010 - 04:43 .