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[Grey21]

TC, your probably right. The new crew is very loyal to Shepard (atleast if you did their quest). So I agree that ME3 should start with all the party members who survived and are loyal with you in some opening cinematic. But at that point Shepard could be summoned to appear before the alliance command (or any other excuse) so he leaves his group and the Normandy to fight Reapers / the last collectors.



At the HQ he might be officially restored in rank followed by getting two new alliance soldiers to join him on the Normandy. Then the Reaper invasion happens and you and the two new human characters need to get to the Citadel. Because your locked away from the rest of your team you get a new ship from the council and you start your new main quest.



This si ofcourse just an example of how Bioware could do it. Hopefully ME3 wont be about recruiting so you will just bump into characters from ME1 and ME2 and a few new ones during the main quest. Ofcourse for the final battle I hope the Normandy 2 team will be there even those that arent party members. It would be cool to see Garrus in charge of the Normandy 2 and Shepard in a new ship in the same battle.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Willowhugger wrote...

No no no No NO!

Good grief, the whole premise here is to make our choices count! Not invalidate them by bringing people back from death! You will get your scenes and emails with Tali and Garrus in ME3, if you got them through the mission alive. But their character shields, which they had in ME1, were removed for a reason in ME2.

In my game, dead quarian is dead. She got a mass accelerator slug in the head, and was put in a casket.

If it's a choice between no Tali Zora vas Normandy as a squadmate versus Tali Zora vas Normandy as a squadmate, I'll swallow a lot of b*******.

Its simple then, make sure she lives through the suicide mission.

[Willowhugger]

Its simple then, make sure she lives through the suicide mission.

My big worry is they're going to make her the Admiral to replace her father as her reason for not being there.

[TOBY FLENDERSON]

Zaeed will probably move on

Tali is here to stay seeing as she's vas normandy now

Garrus will stay because of Shepard

Grunt will stay seeing as Shepard is his battlemaster/sensei

Legions will stay because of his strange facination with Shepard

Samara will go and continue wondering

Thane will be dead or dying

Jack might stick around seeing that the crew is the closest thing to a family she has

Mordin will be there because he is only 50 in salarian years

Miranda and Jacob will both be back because of their positions on the ship and devotion

[oYOSSARIANo]

Braag wrote...
 can only imagine what a pain it is to develop ME3 with all the things that can happen in the previous games, how are they gonna work it all together?

To be honest Bioware probably had a flow chart mapping the trilogy months or years before they even entered production. They knew the start and the end so they could fill in the middle. Remember the story is about Shepard and the Reapers, the rest is subplot filler.

But don't expect every NPC and possible romance to be continued in ME 3, they will not. They could all potentially be dead for a start. For that reason alone they are unlikely to play a major part in ME3. You'll probably get  a cameo or a message from them at best.

Neither Tali or Garrus can be team mates in ME3 for the same reason that Wrex was not a possible team mate in ME2, but rather just had a cameo and a few lines.

I  do expect Liara to come back though in one way or another, she is the one constant. She is alive in everybodys games, and I also think the Shadow Broker is going to finally make an appearance in ME 3, and who does Liara spend ME2 hunting ? I also think the genophage could be cured and Wrex being Chief could make a difference if the Krogan go on as before (war/fuedal/violent/aggressive) or reform. Wrex good, no Wrex bad, that sort of thing.

My choices of companion for ME3 would be Lelianna and Morrigan. I'd like to see both dancing in Afterlife.

[exevii]

Brahlis wrote...

Talogrungi wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

How is that so hard to comprehend?

Erm, the whole "every squad member can die at the end" bit kinda complicates this a tad.

No it doesn't. Common sense tells you that Samara will definitely leave the team after ME2. They could easily work out another not-so-popular character. And of course Zaeed would leave. That makes three spaces, two at minimum.

You add in two characters (which would bring it back up to ME2's squad total) Kaiden/Ashely (depending on who survived) and Liara. Voila. You have everyone from both games excluding some nobodies, and at minimum the same amount of dialogue from ME2.

Wow, that was so hard.

I think he's confused because he thinks that if everyone but shepard dies, then they could only have a few teammates. What he's ignoring is the potential new characters that would be added, to account for your loss of teammates, combined with ash/kai and liara, there would need to be at least 4 new ones so you would have at least 6 squadmates minimum, or around 12/13 maximum.Also, I would assumed starting a brand new game on ME3 means everyone died on the suicide mission except you so you only get the minimum number of squadmates.

[Drcyanide]

me still thinks that if you saved the rachnaii things are gonna get interesting...

Rachnaii Squad mate any one?

Modifié par Drcyanide, 07 février 2010 - 05:00 .

[Talogrungi]

exevii wrote...

I think he's confused because he thinks that if everyone but shepard dies, then they could only have a few teammates. What he's ignoring is the potential new characters that would be added, to account for your loss of teammates, combined with ash/kai and liara, there would need to be at least 4 new ones so you would have at least 6 squadmates minimum, or around 12/13 maximum.Also, I would assumed starting a brand new game on ME3 means everyone died on the suicide mission except you so you only get the minimum number of squadmates.

Well no, they could always add new team-mates, that's a given.
They could also easily get rid of some to maintain some arbitrary number.

The OP's point is clearly that he likes the ME2 squadmates and is conscious of the fact that they can ALL die in the suicide mission, which could very well mean that they have no part (or merely a cameo) in ME3.

I share that concern. While some churn is to be expected, (even encouraged), I don't want to build a whole new team.

Modifié par Talogrungi, 07 février 2010 - 05:03 .

[oYOSSARIANo]

I'm just going to import my renegade ME1 career to ME2.



I'm only going to do Zaeed's loyalty mission. I intend to kill off crew by not going straight away. Give unloyal crew the wrong tasks to get them all killed except Zaeed who I will let live to help me back aboard the Normandy, because he is a badass.



So when I import that save into ME3, who will be my team ?

[Archereon]

My suggestion is to bring back the viable fan favorites, which means Legion, Tali, Garrus, Mordin and maybe one or two more.

[Brahlis]

Talogrungi wrote...

I share that concern. While some churn is to be expected, (even encouraged), I don't want to build a whole new team.

Agreed.

[VanguardtoDestruction]

As long as Garrus stays I am happy. And maybe we can use Reaper Tech to keep Thane from dying too lol.

[Wolverfrog]

The Illusive Man will bring them all back to life with Reaper technology. That's why he's experimenting on Paul Grayson.



It's the only way.

[GarethLorn]

Well, the main argument seems to be that BioWare wouldn't make characters return and play a large role in the story if there's a chance they're dead and not everyone will be experiencing that content. Wouldn't it be easy to just make it so that Default Shepard lost no one, drop Zaeed and Thane (seems likely Samara would return to hep Shepard), and voila? All the newcomers are now experiencing that stuff. And since I doubt we will be doing loyalty missions anymore, it's not like any of the characters are really plot-centric anyway. In ME2, the only characters that really influenced things would be Mordin (for his bug spray) and (depending on how much you're willing to accept as plot-relevant) the love interests. It's not hard to create characters that have a primarily backseat role for the entire game. Shepard is already set up with the Normandy and the knowledge needed to fight the Reapers. He doesn't need Miranda and Jacob to get him in with Cerberus like in ME2, or Liara to make sense of the Prothean beacon like in ME1. They could very easily incorporate any or all of the surviving gang, give them their dialog like normal, perhaps minor side missions, and just record bits of dialog for them in ME3 when they're in your party. They did it in ME1 and 2. For example, Noveria. When you're faced with the decision of killing the Rachni or saving them, your two party members each voice their opinions. Not everyone experienced that, because not everyone had the same two party members with them at the time. But they still managed to include opinions coming from each character.

[Griever54]

The only way I can see Bioware doing this is by adding placeholder characters for the ones that died, for example if Tali died then she is replaced by Veetor or sumthin? Obviously for that to work all the characters will need to leave the Normandy for some reason.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Willowhugger wrote...

Its simple then, make sure she lives through the suicide mission.

My big worry is they're going to make her the Admiral to replace her father as her reason for not being there.

I am kind of hoping they leave that in our hands.

Though I guess I need to read up more on the Quarians to see whether Shepherd can have a say whether Tali is taken from our ship or not.

@Griever54... I sponsor Kal'Reegar to be Tali's replacement

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 07 février 2010 - 05:17 .

[TMA LIVE]

Well, I'm sure they'll be in Mass Effect 3. It's just that they'll be "too busy" to help you. After all, saving the galaxy doesn't pay the bills. (shakes head)

[CakesOnAPlane]

EPIC PLOT TWIST: Illusive man made a secret clone of Shepard in those 2 years!



Anyway back on topic, they could make the first 25% of the game any surviving crew/a couple of replacements if need be. Then something happens and you're split up, and after that they become minor characters like Liara was in ME2, perhaps a few (Garrus/Tali most likely) being re-recruitable. Something like that would allow for some new characters (perhaps Liara comes back) in the other 75% of the game and further development of the others at the same time.



Plus this would stop Bioware from making too much dialogue that many people don't hear. I would love them all to be back as squadmates but I have a feeling that's unlikely.

[cam the geth]

-EVER ONE TALKS ABOT me2 POEPLE for me3 BUT WHAT ABOUT me! WHAT ABOUT ASH OR WREX IT IS THE FAITH OF EVER RACE

[Griever54]

cam the geth wrote...

-EVER ONE TALKS ABOT me2 POEPLE for me3 BUT WHAT ABOUT me! WHAT ABOUT ASH OR WREX IT IS THE FAITH OF EVER RACE

Probably because we already know that Liara and Ash/Kaiden will be in ME3 . Wrex  is unlikely though, as he could of been killed in ME1.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

One of the disappointing things for me is that I found ME2s squad to feel so disposable, and none of the character I wanted to return did in a meaningful way.



Id be glad to see the entire ME2 squad relegated to cameos in ME3, and have Liara as a squadmate. That is after all one of the reasons why Ash/Kai and Liara had no real presence in the game whatsoever, at least from what we were fed before release on the subject.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Griever54 wrote...

cam the geth wrote...

-EVER ONE TALKS ABOT me2 POEPLE for me3 BUT WHAT ABOUT me! WHAT ABOUT ASH OR WREX IT IS THE FAITH OF EVER RACE

Probably because we already know that Liara and Ash/Kaiden will be in ME3 . Wrex  is unlikely though, as he could of been killed in ME1.

He came back in ME2 and in fact could potentially be an influential position for ME3 (getting the Krogans to fight for Shep)

[TSamee]

Hmmm... personally, here's my take: I'd like it if they simply kept the same squad together in ME3 (provided you all survived), minus Thane and possibly Mordin. Sadly, that probably won't happen.



I think a smaller squad could work here. So, keep characters who're likely to survive/stay with Shepard (Miranda, Jacob, Legion, Tali, Jack, Garrus, Grunt), and perhaps have cameos from others? I'm not talking small ones; like, perhaps a long genophage/experiment-related quest chain from Mordin if he survived (and more dialogue. Cmon, he's AWESOME), or having high-ranking Hanar be better-disposed since you've helped Thane find peace before he died.

[CreepingGeth]

There's just no way they can bench Garrus... they have to bring him back.

[phatpat63]

I seriously doubt Mordin and Thane have enough lifespan to make it to ME3.