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First try, this game took me 65 hrs to get through.  It's long enough.  I just wish there was less teambuilding and more main story , though.

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My first playthrough was 40 hours. Compared to ME1's 25 hours, that's excellent. I wasn't really expecting another 80-hour epic like Dragon Age. I'm pretty happy with ME2's length.

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took me 20 hours for the story....

ME1 my first was 18... and my last was 12 I think

Modifié par Madodaz, 07 février 2010 - 07:53 .


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I haven't completed every sidequest or anything - I was super psyched to play the game and beat it so I guess beating it so quickly was partially my fault. I'm not saying that the main plot in ME2 was poor or too simple but I am hoping that ME3 keeps everything it did right in ME2 but really make the main plot something extra special.



Is that a fair demand? Of course not, but ME is the greatest franchise I've ever played and I'm really hoping for something legendary in ME3.

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All good points. My perspective is that the story was short and sweet but I'd say the time spent building your party to main story is out of proportion. While I acknowledge that much of the party building is optional, you'd think that for that much effort to build a large loyal party, the story length would reflect that much effort. Even though I enjoyed the main story, I was left feeling like something was missing.

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Completed the campaign and all sidequests available, multiple times. Like Dragon Age: Origins, just doesn't last long enough.

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Queenie4000 wrote...

I apologize now, if there is already a post - only went back a handful of pages and didn't see a topic like this one.

I know there have been some critiqueing threads, but this is more of a "How the hell did I complete this one so fast?"

If felt like it took weeks to complete ME1 - maybe my excitement wouldn't let me put down the controller, but I'm sure I didn't "rush" through the game.  I gained every squadmate - did loyalty missions and did several "anomally detected" missions (not all mind you - did that later after completing the suicide mission) and I still feel sort of cheated.

Don't get me wrong, ME2 still gets high scores from me but I miss the large exploring areas like the original Citadel....

After waiting all this time for ME2 I guess I'm just a bit bummed.  I figured all that time was being dedicated to making all those deep missions and huge areas of exploration.

And am I the only one who prefers the elevator to the loading screens?  Seems like there was a real hate among people, but honestly I enjoyed looking at my femshep and characters over the loading screens.

Will ME3 be longer/better???  Thoughts????


I could definately have handled at least 5-6 more big missions after Recruiting the Dirty Dozen.(and doing all the sidequests/assignments/N7Missions)

We (customers) just want more of a good thing it seems! :D

Hoping for BIG DLCs

Modifié par Kwonnern, 14 février 2010 - 08:30 .


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If you thought it was short, you obviously didn't do all of the sidequests.



I found ME1 to be shorter honestly.

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When I finished ME1 I was a little shocked that it was over already and thats with every side quest, exploring, etc. On subsequent playthroughs it didn't bother me as much.



When I finished ME2 it didn't feel "short" to me. It definitely felt longer than ME1 and I was pleasantly surprised seeing as how I think of the devs said don't expect it be any longer than ME1. ME1 took me 30 hours the first time, ME2 took me 45 hours. But I try to make sure I don't miss one thing everytime I play.

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Great games are always too short.

But in the scheme of things, ME2 is a reasonable length. Hell, after beating it once I was inspired into doing two more complete playthroughs of ME1 and an about to start ANOTHER ME2 import. If I add up the hours that I've spent playing ME games since ME2 launched, it's a hefty amount of time.

I still haven't played Bioshock 2 yet. Happy days.

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I found the balance a little off, in that you spend maybe 95% of your time recruiting your squad for your mission and maybe 5% on the actual mission itself. I wanted to see more of Collector Space, for instance, and do more whilst I was there.

Modifié par kaotician, 14 février 2010 - 08:48 .


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More then long enough at first sight (Dragon Age was seemed longer), took my time to listen to all dialogues of course, not skip them asap.

Seen that I'm working on weekdays and my wife hates games, I still spend quite some time on this if I ask her,lol



Was very happy that Mako thing did not return, made me weary about replaying ME1, still didn't actualy

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Honestly I'm one of those rare people who it took about a year an a half to get through ME1. First of all I'll admit I was late to the game, my PC wasn't really the best for modern games until about 12 months ago, and I only had a Wii and a PS2 when ME1 was released. About 16 months ago got the Xbox360 and bought ME1 as one of my first games. Played it for about two months on and off and got bored with the Mako and gave up until I heard ME2 was coming out. Went through 3 playthroughs of ME1 in about 2 weeks, each one about 35 hours of play.

ME2 came out and I was through my first playthrough in 3 days... 45 hours. Second play through was 5 days later (had to give my lady the game too) at 38 hours. Third playthrough finished today at 40 hours.



So... no don't feel it was too short except that I wish I was still playing!

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I visited every planet, mined every planet and got almost every upgrade my first play through, ending at level 29. It took me about 50 hours. I was hoping the game would be longer, most of the time was spent mining. The plot missions seemed very short most of the time. The combat is more exciting, but the plot missions are almost entirely combat so once that is over it's off to mining or another quick combat mission. ME1 did seem to have more story and longer main story missions, though I don't miss driving around in the Mako forever to clear out maps.

P.S. I did love the game however.

Modifié par Ryllen Laerth Kriel, 14 février 2010 - 09:24 .


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Did everything to do in the game, took 35 hours. Second playthrough took 28 to do everything in the game. The second playthrough i went very fast through the dialog but still talked to people. Figure in about 3 hours of not knowing where I was going the first time around as well as the time to stop and see all the graphics, places, really look around. That means there is only about 4 hours of dialog in ME2. Way too little. ME1 took almost 2x as long to finish without counting DLC. I think the game was way too short but with a lot of free DLC coming out, it will make up for the short game. I do not mind this as long as they keep the DLC mostly free. They may have hit time issues with release and had to do it this way; who knows.



There was less main plot and side missions, no one will deny that but it’s the middle chapter in a three part story so the plot fit for what it was. Remember at the end of Empire Strikes Back you were like “What, is that it?” Same thing in ME2; no worries, ME3 will be longer I am sure of this. We also have 2 years solid of DLC according to the developers.


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yep, ME2 is short compared to ME1.

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i put well over 30+ hours into my first play and now i'm on my 2nd play after importing another character from ME1 that I had to start just to import. Great great experience!

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I - I just can't understand this. To me ME2 seemed so much longer than ME1.



How can people say that the second is shorter than the first? I think it took me about twice as long to finish than the first one, and that was with me still leaving most of the sidequests until after the suicide mission.

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Yummy if they aren't actually exploring anything in the ME2 universe they can sit and say it's short all they want and they're cheating themselves

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in comparison me2 is definitely shorter then me. granted the planets you actually land on and hjt it up in your mako. at the same time the graphics in me2 are 78% better and there are more charicters to explore. me was a beautiful baby and one to cherish me 2 is like its older sister with an identify complex. instead of looking at a new world we are finding out who we are and how we effect the people around us.... that says a lot especially considering we are talking about a game. i would like to have the elevator load scenes the mako and drop the planet scanning but like star wars to my dad i am eating up me and will go wherever it takes me...



besides its not like were messing with peter malanew or how he spells it. promasing stuff we never recived for more crap games fable 3 alread :s and with me the only disapointment besides the planet scanning is the direction of my original charicters story and watchin some team mates die and missing the comrarite of some of the older ones. but life cant be candy and rainbows. all i can say is i havent been this into vg charicters since my star ocean 2 and ff7 days.

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Queenie4000 wrote...

I apologize now, if there is already a post - only went back a handful of pages and didn't see a topic like this one.

I know there have been some critiqueing threads, but this is more of a "How the hell did I complete this one so fast?"

If felt like it took weeks to complete ME1 - maybe my excitement wouldn't let me put down the controller, but I'm sure I didn't "rush" through the game.  I gained every squadmate - did loyalty missions and did several "anomally detected" missions (not all mind you - did that later after completing the suicide mission) and I still feel sort of cheated.

Don't get me wrong, ME2 still gets high scores from me but I miss the large exploring areas like the original Citadel....

After waiting all this time for ME2 I guess I'm just a bit bummed.  I figured all that time was being dedicated to making all those deep missions and huge areas of exploration.

And am I the only one who prefers the elevator to the loading screens?  Seems like there was a real hate among people, but honestly I enjoyed looking at my femshep and characters over the loading screens.

Will ME3 be longer/better???  Thoughts????


"ME2 still gets high scores from me but I miss the large exploring areas like the original Citadel...."

Have to take into account here were actually more "cities" in ME2 than ME1.  While the citadel in ME1 was larger than any one place Omega, Illium, Tachaunka(Krogan homeworld im not gonna bother spelling it), and the new citadel were larger combined than the original citadel.  Feros and Noveria hardly count as a "city" to revist, in ME1 as after you do the MQ part there is really no reason to revisit them and they are very small.


there was alot of ME1 that was just filler.

alot of the side quests were essentially the same exact mission (rotating one of 3 prefabbed interiors, so technically the area they took place was the same) all that changed was the text description.

Time in the elevator = time played.

Every world you could land on was exactly the same save for being a different color.   And searching for anomolies/resources for UNC : missions, were exactly the same for each mission.

So essentially what I am saying alot of ME1's side quests were doing the same thing over and over again, with the mission description telling you its different.   Whereas ME2 never repackaged the same exact mission calling it something else.

I just did a full playthrough of ME1 recently all side missions 40hrs, my first playthrough of ME2 was 42hrs second playthrough was 32.  Arguably ME2 is "shorter" but if eliminate all of the "repetative" missions from ME1, ME1 would be considerably shorter.

its simply a matter of quality vs quantity.  ME1 offers more missions but they are by no means unique from eachother. 

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samusfan wrote...

I spent 40 hours on ME2 and I still left some stuff on the table (like some of the N7 missions).

It's not a short game - maybe not epic 60+ hours of gameplay like Dragon Age, but it's still not short.


Same here. For my 2 playthroughs I "needed" about 70 hours. Wouldn't call ME2 short, there are much shorter games out there.  I agree that it is not as huge as Dragon Age, but it is defenitely worth its time.

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Initially I was thrilled with the suicide mission.

Every ship upgrade worked & saved my crew's / the new Normandy's proverbial ****!



Then the Base had me assigning Specialists & Fire Teams & approaches.



But there were only essentially 3 runs made through the base & none of them had any alternative routes.



Many of my crew were left out of being directly used with their only involvement being an untimely death if loyalty or Team Leader choice was incorrect.



The Suicide Mission itself was great! (at least I felt it was) But I was disappointed that there wasn't MORE of it, which is (I think) a fair statement considering the ENTIRE game is leading up to it with mass upgrades & recruiting & gaining loyalty.



*shrug*

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tsd16 wrote...

Queenie4000 wrote...

I apologize now, if there is already a post - only went back a handful of pages and didn't see a topic like this one.

I know there have been some critiqueing threads, but this is more of a "How the hell did I complete this one so fast?"

If felt like it took weeks to complete ME1 - maybe my excitement wouldn't let me put down the controller, but I'm sure I didn't "rush" through the game.  I gained every squadmate - did loyalty missions and did several "anomally detected" missions (not all mind you - did that later after completing the suicide mission) and I still feel sort of cheated.

Don't get me wrong, ME2 still gets high scores from me but I miss the large exploring areas like the original Citadel....

After waiting all this time for ME2 I guess I'm just a bit bummed.  I figured all that time was being dedicated to making all those deep missions and huge areas of exploration.

And am I the only one who prefers the elevator to the loading screens?  Seems like there was a real hate among people, but honestly I enjoyed looking at my femshep and characters over the loading screens.

Will ME3 be longer/better???  Thoughts????


"ME2 still gets high scores from me but I miss the large exploring areas like the original Citadel...."

Have to take into account here were actually more "cities" in ME2 than ME1.  While the citadel in ME1 was larger than any one place Omega, Illium, Tachaunka(Krogan homeworld im not gonna bother spelling it), and the new citadel were larger combined than the original citadel.  Feros and Noveria hardly count as a "city" to revist, in ME1 as after you do the MQ part there is really no reason to revisit them and they are very small.


there was alot of ME1 that was just filler.

alot of the side quests were essentially the same exact mission (rotating one of 3 prefabbed interiors, so technically the area they took place was the same) all that changed was the text description.

Time in the elevator = time played.

Every world you could land on was exactly the same save for being a different color.   And searching for anomolies/resources for UNC : missions, were exactly the same for each mission.

So essentially what I am saying alot of ME1's side quests were doing the same thing over and over again, with the mission description telling you its different.   Whereas ME2 never repackaged the same exact mission calling it something else.

I just did a full playthrough of ME1 recently all side missions 40hrs, my first playthrough of ME2 was 42hrs second playthrough was 32.  Arguably ME2 is "shorter" but if eliminate all of the "repetative" missions from ME1, ME1 would be considerably shorter.

its simply a matter of quality vs quantity.  ME1 offers more missions but they are by no means unique from eachother. 



So in the end you say ME2 is shorter.

And about the "fillers", you could also say that between the start and the end in a game everything else is a "filler" , for that, I have a solution, you go on youtube and watch the beginning of a game and then you go back and watch the ending of the same game. Like that you avoid the "filler'...

Modifié par yoomazir, 14 février 2010 - 10:48 .


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I thought it was fine lengthwise.