Don't assume it's just 'the gay community.' I'm a straight female, and I'd like the option for some of my male characters to romance men. I'm not alone. I've appreciated Bioware's inclusion of that potential in other titles (Sky FTW).danman2424 wrote...
Apparently the gay community takes games seriously enough that they are willing to make an issue over there being no relationships for them in a video game.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
PyroFreak301 wrote...
People shouldn't be taking a game so seriously that the inclusion of homosexuality would break it for them in the first place.
I never understood when people started taking games OD seriously. I could understand digging beneath the surface but once you start comparing video games to historical literature works I can't help but LOL. Like seriously? ITS A GAME. Stop acting like its the second coming of Christ or something.I'm all for artistic appreciataion but when your main motive for any medium is sales and entertainment a vast majority of deep artistic merit goes out the window. Especially once you begin pandering to the majority.
Proposition for a Same/Sex Romance Compromise
#101
Posté 08 février 2010 - 08:55
#102
Posté 08 février 2010 - 08:56
Also, this is getting into "just add a toggle!" territory.
#103
Guest_Kordaris_*
Posté 08 février 2010 - 08:56
Guest_Kordaris_*
#104
Posté 08 février 2010 - 08:58
You are special to me and Bunk here tonight are from the Ashley romance. The "Kaiden" part is dubbed in from normal conversations male Shepard has with Kaiden.Wittand25 wrote...
The male shepard saying "You are special to me Kaidan "and "Bunk here tonight Kaidan" are from the Ashley romance ?
#105
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
Posté 08 février 2010 - 08:58
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
Temper_Graniteskul wrote...
Don't assume it's just 'the gay community.' I'm a straight female, and I'd like the option for some of my male characters to romance men. I'm not alone. I've appreciated Bioware's inclusion of that potential in other titles (Sky FTW).danman2424 wrote...
Apparently the gay community takes games seriously enough that they are willing to make an issue over there being no relationships for them in a video game.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
PyroFreak301 wrote...
People shouldn't be taking a game so seriously that the inclusion of homosexuality would break it for them in the first place.
I never understood when people started taking games OD seriously. I could understand digging beneath the surface but once you start comparing video games to historical literature works I can't help but LOL. Like seriously? ITS A GAME. Stop acting like its the second coming of Christ or something.I'm all for artistic appreciataion but when your main motive for any medium is sales and entertainment a vast majority of deep artistic merit goes out the window. Especially once you begin pandering to the majority.
THIS
Maybe I should put the fact that I'm female in my siggy?
#106
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
Posté 08 février 2010 - 08:59
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
danman2424 wrote...
You are special to me and Bunk here tonight are from the Ashley romance. The "Kaiden" part is dubbed in from normal conversations male Shepard has with Kaiden.Wittand25 wrote...
The male shepard saying "You are special to me Kaidan "and "Bunk here tonight Kaidan" are from the Ashley romance ?
Please tell me you're joking.
If not just load the save game and play through for yourself.
Kordaris wrote...
Obviously if there is gay Shepard,
there also should be crossdresser Shepard, with the ability to wear
women's clothes and make up.
I thought Meer already did that?
But seriously okay? You want that go ahead make a thread for it. No one's stopping you.
Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 08 février 2010 - 09:01 .
#107
Posté 08 février 2010 - 08:59
Hey it's only fair, right? Bioware should be fair across the board and cater to every single person on this earth no matter what their preferences.Kordaris wrote...
Obviously if there is gay Shepard, there also should be crossdresser Shepard, with the ability to wear women's clothes and make up.
#108
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:01
danman2424 wrote...
Hey it's only fair, right? Bioware should be fair across the board and cater to every single person on this earth no matter what their preferences.Kordaris wrote...
Obviously if there is gay Shepard, there also should be crossdresser Shepard, with the ability to wear women's clothes and make up.
I have a better way of being fair - remove all romances. Infact, best remove all gender even though it hasn't been an issue. Let's all just be Hanar.
#109
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:01
I'm not joking. Those are the exact lines from the Ashley romance.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
danman2424 wrote...
You are special to me and Bunk here tonight are from the Ashley romance. The "Kaiden" part is dubbed in from normal conversations male Shepard has with Kaiden.Wittand25 wrote...
The male shepard saying "You are special to me Kaidan "and "Bunk here tonight Kaidan" are from the Ashley romance ?
Please tell me you're joking.
If not just load the save game and play through for yourself.
Sorry.
#110
Guest_Kordaris_*
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:01
Guest_Kordaris_*
danman2424 wrote...
Hey it's only fair, right? Bioware should be fair across the board and cater to every single person on this earth no matter what their preferences.Kordaris wrote...
Obviously if there is gay Shepard, there also should be crossdresser Shepard, with the ability to wear women's clothes and make up.
Exactly. We also can't forget about Furry Shepard walking around Citadel dressed up like a coyote.
Modifié par Kordaris, 08 février 2010 - 09:01 .
#111
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:02
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
Nautica773 wrote...
danman2424 wrote...
Hey it's only fair, right? Bioware should be fair across the board and cater to every single person on this earth no matter what their preferences.Kordaris wrote...
Obviously if there is gay Shepard, there also should be crossdresser Shepard, with the ability to wear women's clothes and make up.
I have a better way of being fair - remove all romances. Infact, best remove all gender even though it hasn't been an issue. Let's all just be Hanar.
LOL
Just a big stupid jellyfish!
That would actually be kind of awesome if implemented properly.
#112
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:03
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
danman2424 wrote...
I'm not joking. Those are the exact lines from the Ashley romance.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
danman2424 wrote...
You are special to me and Bunk here tonight are from the Ashley romance. The "Kaiden" part is dubbed in from normal conversations male Shepard has with Kaiden.Wittand25 wrote...
The male shepard saying "You are special to me Kaidan "and "Bunk here tonight Kaidan" are from the Ashley romance ?
Please tell me you're joking.
If not just load the save game and play through for yourself.
Sorry.
And I redirect you once again to the save game. But whatever you can believe what you want to.
#113
Guest_Kordaris_*
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:03
Guest_Kordaris_*
That's a good idea. Next game should have humans as transhuman cyborg/androids who have casted away petty human traits like sexual desires, more fitting to animals then radiant creatures of war fighting the Reaper invasion.Nautica773 wrote...
. Infact, best remove all gender even though it hasn't been an issue.
#114
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:03
I don't think Bioware is any more obligated to cater to the fetishes of perverted women than they are to cater to the gay community. So no, it doesn't really change anything that you two are female.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Temper_Graniteskul wrote...
Don't assume it's just 'the gay community.' I'm a straight female, and I'd like the option for some of my male characters to romance men. I'm not alone. I've appreciated Bioware's inclusion of that potential in other titles (Sky FTW).danman2424 wrote...
Apparently the gay community takes games seriously enough that they are willing to make an issue over there being no relationships for them in a video game.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
PyroFreak301 wrote...
People shouldn't be taking a game so seriously that the inclusion of homosexuality would break it for them in the first place.
I never understood when people started taking games OD seriously. I could understand digging beneath the surface but once you start comparing video games to historical literature works I can't help but LOL. Like seriously? ITS A GAME. Stop acting like its the second coming of Christ or something.I'm all for artistic appreciataion but when your main motive for any medium is sales and entertainment a vast majority of deep artistic merit goes out the window. Especially once you begin pandering to the majority.
THIS
Maybe I should put the fact that I'm female in my siggy?
#115
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:05
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
danman2424 wrote...
I don't think Bioware is any more obligated to cater to the fetishes of perverted women than they are to cater to the gay community. So no, it doesn't really change anything that you two are female.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Temper_Graniteskul wrote...
Don't assume it's just 'the gay community.' I'm a straight female, and I'd like the option for some of my male characters to romance men. I'm not alone. I've appreciated Bioware's inclusion of that potential in other titles (Sky FTW).danman2424 wrote...
Apparently the gay community takes games seriously enough that they are willing to make an issue over there being no relationships for them in a video game.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
PyroFreak301 wrote...
People shouldn't be taking a game so seriously that the inclusion of homosexuality would break it for them in the first place.
I never understood when people started taking games OD seriously. I could understand digging beneath the surface but once you start comparing video games to historical literature works I can't help but LOL. Like seriously? ITS A GAME. Stop acting like its the second coming of Christ or something.I'm all for artistic appreciataion but when your main motive for any medium is sales and entertainment a vast majority of deep artistic merit goes out the window. Especially once you begin pandering to the majority.
THIS
Maybe I should put the fact that I'm female in my siggy?
Yet they cater to perverted males that want f/f?
Also: LOL at how wanting gay romances makes me perverted.
Yeah they should just remove all romances and focus on getting their battle system straight. We'd all equally enjoy that more no?
Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 08 février 2010 - 09:05 .
#116
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:05
danman2424 wrote...
I'm not joking. Those are the exact lines from the Ashley romance.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
danman2424 wrote...
You are special to me and Bunk here tonight are from the Ashley romance. The "Kaiden" part is dubbed in from normal conversations male Shepard has with Kaiden.Wittand25 wrote...
The male shepard saying "You are special to me Kaidan "and "Bunk here tonight Kaidan" are from the Ashley romance ?
Please tell me you're joking.
If not just load the save game and play through for yourself.
Sorry.
They are also the lines of the female/Kaidan romance so what is your point ? That the writers got lazy and reused the same dialog lines for different romances ( just like there is only one human/human sex scene in ME 1 ) ?
Modifié par Wittand25, 08 février 2010 - 09:07 .
#117
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:06
Uh, the "save game"?Ryuuichi009 wrote...
And I redirect you once again to the save game. But whatever you can believe what you want to.
#118
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:08
Did they cater to that? I thought the whole point of this thread was that there were no gay relationships in Mass Effect 2 whatsoever. M/m or f/f.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Yet they cater to perverted males that want f/f?
Also: LOL at how wanting gay romances makes me perverted.
Yeah they should just remove all romances and focus on getting their battle system straight. We'd all equally enjoy that more no?
#119
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:09
A lot of people, me included, have only really taken notice of the discussion because of the huge amount of backlash a simple suggestion received. Noone is really saying Bioware HAS to include it, or that it's expected of them. Some people said they would just like to see it in number 3.danman2424 wrote...
I don't think Bioware is any more obligated to cater to the fetishes of perverted women than they are to cater to the gay community. So no, it doesn't really change anything that you two are female.
#120
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:10
danman2424 wrote...
Did they cater to that? I thought the whole point of this thread was that there were no gay relationships in Mass Effect 2 whatsoever. M/m or f/f.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Yet they cater to perverted males that want f/f?
Also: LOL at how wanting gay romances makes me perverted.
Yeah they should just remove all romances and focus on getting their battle system straight. We'd all equally enjoy that more no?
I believe the "fling" with kelly is not considered a romance because...well...it's a fling, and indeed not romantic. But there is the option in the game.
#121
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:10
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
danman2424 wrote...
Did they cater to that? I thought the whole point of this thread was that there were no gay relationships in Mass Effect 2 whatsoever. M/m or f/f.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Yet they cater to perverted males that want f/f?
Also: LOL at how wanting gay romances makes me perverted.
Yeah they should just remove all romances and focus on getting their battle system straight. We'd all equally enjoy that more no?
Kelly Chambers and Liara say "HI!" And Morinth (even though that's not *really* a relationship with her and the PC)
And don't start with the Liara is asexual because Hudson is wrong. If they were asexual they wouldn't be sleeping with anyone. They are an all female species that don't see themselves as female despite have all the characteristics of the female gender.
Edit: That dialogue is not overwritten with the name Kaidan you can tell from Shep's tone of voice. It fits too well.
Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 08 février 2010 - 09:17 .
#122
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:17
Female Shepard can have sex with Kelly? So basically all this hoopla about Bioware being anti-gay is the result of an overreaction by a hyper-sensitive group of people.biddypocket wrote...
danman2424 wrote...
Did they cater to that? I thought the whole point of this thread was that there were no gay relationships in Mass Effect 2 whatsoever. M/m or f/f.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Yet they cater to perverted males that want f/f?
Also: LOL at how wanting gay romances makes me perverted.
Yeah they should just remove all romances and focus on getting their battle system straight. We'd all equally enjoy that more no?
I believe the "fling" with kelly is not considered a romance because...well...it's a fling, and indeed not romantic. But there is the option in the game.
#123
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:20
Guest_Ryuuichi009_*
danman2424 wrote...
Female Shepard can have sex with Kelly? So basically all this hoopla about Bioware being anti-gay is the result of an overreaction by a hyper-sensitive group of people.biddypocket wrote...
danman2424 wrote...
Did they cater to that? I thought the whole point of this thread was that there were no gay relationships in Mass Effect 2 whatsoever. M/m or f/f.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Yet they cater to perverted males that want f/f?
Also: LOL at how wanting gay romances makes me perverted.
Yeah they should just remove all romances and focus on getting their battle system straight. We'd all equally enjoy that more no?
I believe the "fling" with kelly is not considered a romance because...well...it's a fling, and indeed not romantic. But there is the option in the game.
No she can't. (AT least she can't get the Paramour achievement for doing so) Kelly gives her a just youtube it its...just...not a romance at all. Its fanservice...badly done fanservice and I doubt its fanservice towards f/f romance people seeing as how most of them wanted a full blown romance. <_<
#124
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:21
danman2424 wrote...
Did they cater to that? I thought the whole point of this thread was that there were no gay relationships in Mass Effect 2 whatsoever. M/m or f/f.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Yet they cater to perverted males that want f/f?
Also: LOL at how wanting gay romances makes me perverted.
Yeah they should just remove all romances and focus on getting their battle system straight. We'd all equally enjoy that more no?
Na you can have a fling with one of the crewmates, male or fem shep can do it. SO there is legitamate, human f/f material in the game.
#125
Posté 08 février 2010 - 09:24
FataliTensei wrote...
danman2424 wrote...
Did they cater to that? I thought the whole point of this thread was that there were no gay relationships in Mass Effect 2 whatsoever. M/m or f/f.Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Yet they cater to perverted males that want f/f?
Also: LOL at how wanting gay romances makes me perverted.
Yeah they should just remove all romances and focus on getting their battle system straight. We'd all equally enjoy that more no?
Na you can have a fling with one of the crewmates, male or fem shep can do it. SO there is legitamate, human f/f material in the game.
There's Liara's romance from the first one as well. It's not like they write her completely out of the game if you are a female Shepard.




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