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Oghren is definitely the 'returning favorite' [pictures]


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xCobalt

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 As I read through this forum, there seems to be some denial about Oghren's presence. You can clearly see him in cutscenes as well as in battles which probably means hes not just an NPC. 

Here's Oghren from Origins.
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And heres an image I took from the recent trailer. I tried my best to get a 1080p trailer but the I could only find it in 720p.
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The most definitive feature is definitely the 4 braids for his beard. His dark, sunken eyes also give it away.

Modifié par xCobalt, 07 février 2010 - 07:49 .


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I think its been obvious since the very first trailer Oghren is the returning companion. He is 3 freaking trailers now and ALWAYS shown in party formation. At this point if anyone is denying it either they have never seen any of the trailers or are completely blind.

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They are probably in denial because they simply don't want him as a party member. That's probably the only reason I can think of for why people are so adamant about this issue.

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xCobalt wrote...
The most definitive feature is definitely the 4 braids for his beard. His dark, sunken eyes also give it away.


The absolute most definitive feature is the hairstyle which is specifically designed for him and no other NPC uses and the PC can't even use (unless you tinker with the toolset, ofc). Much like Duncan's and Morrigan's.

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i'm not in denial, just utterly disappointed. wth are they thinking? an old favorite, Oghren? Really? most polls i have seen he's ranked in the last three as a character people wanna see returning in awakening.

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At worst, Oghren is a poor substitute for Sten, and at best a sub-par comedy relief character.

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Spitz6860 wrote...

i'm not in denial, just utterly disappointed. wth are they thinking? an old favorite, Oghren? Really? most polls i have seen he's ranked in the last three as a character people wanna see returning in awakening.


talking about it, where can I find the survey of favorite characters of da:o?


yeah,I'm too disappointed by the inclusion of ogrhen, but we all know, he  is the right desicion

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I still think its duncan as the returning person. in the trailers you see a ghost kick in the door and its eaither duncan or calin

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King Killoth wrote...

I still think its duncan as the
returning person. in the trailers you see a ghost kick in the door and
its eaither duncan or calin


So you think a ghost is going to be a party member?

Modifié par citizenEXTINCT, 07 février 2010 - 08:47 .


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King Killoth wrote...

I still think its duncan as the returning person. in the trailers you see a ghost kick in the door and its eaither duncan or calin


I thought that was just the PC using Combat Magic...

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Yobani wrote...

talking about it, where can I find the survey of favorite characters of da:o?


yeah,I'm too disappointed by the inclusion of ogrhen, but we all know, he  is the right desicion


http://www.escapistm...ge-Party-Member
http://forums.comicb...ad.php?t=299761

there are a couple on this forum but the search function's not working.

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Maybe we will all be pleasantly surprised when the portion shown is like the very beginning and Oghren is killed in the battle which sets the game's opening? lol

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http://social.biowar.../9/index/852197

In the general forum.

JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...
Maybe we will all be pleasantly surprised when the portion shown is like the very beginning and Oghren is killed in the battle which sets the game's opening? lol


Yeah lol, seems people forget in Nwn - Hordes of the Underdark expansion.
Every OC character returned but only for chapter 1.

Also given im sure that everyone who voted didnt only vote for the romance content of Morrigan/Leliana/Alistair saying that its biased on romances only is abit silly considering Zevran's position in the forum poll. (It works both ways Wishpig^)
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I wouldnt place any faith in those other "third party polls", all of them are closed. The social forum poll is ongoing.

Modifié par SinYang, 07 février 2010 - 09:30 .


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If Bioware wanted to keep it a surprise for us to see it in game who the returing companion is, well, then I dont think they would have thrown Oghren all over the trailer.
It just doesnt make any sense, I doubt that Bioware would be that stupid and spoil it in the very first trailer.
Anyway, I wouldnt mind Oghren returning, he was pretty cool character and I'd like to see him again but if he IS returning...
...well then im gonna be dissapointed and angry at Bioware for showing us such a big spoiler.

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Lol, I was JUST about to make a thread like this to shut up the crazy SOB's trying to convince themselves it's NOT Oghren in the videos. Of course... their crazy so you prob can't convince them. Some people have an amazing ability to trick themselves.

However, as much as I love Oghren, and as clear as it is that he's able to group with you. That doesn't mean he is the returning favorite... he could be a cameo. As of now he's the most likley but untill we get the official word, we can't be sure.

Spitz6860 wrote...


Yobani wrote...

talking about it, where can I find the survey of favorite characters of da:o?


yeah,I'm too disappointed by the inclusion of ogrhen, but we all know, he  is the right desicion


http://www.escapistm...ge-Party-Member
http://forums.comicb...ad.php?t=299761

there are a couple on this forum but the search function's not working.


Both those polls have very few votes.

This is the biggest I've seen

social.bioware.com/poll.php

Well over 200 votes.

Oghren is in 4th place, well above Zevran... but getting his **** KICKED by Morrigan and Alistair... and Leliana is making a fool out of everyone.

But Oghren is the #1 non romancible companion. So... it's clear he is popular... if you can take what you find on forums seriously. Sometimes their a good representation, but sometimes their not at all.

Also, you gotta take these polls with a grain of salt as they don't take into account the order of characters. I like Oghren the best but I also really like Morrigan and Alistair and would be pleased if either of them were the returning care. Hell, I think I would only be disapointed if it were dog, and not cause I dislike him, but only cause with 5 companions I want all of them to... ya know... be able to talk.

Modifié par Wishpig, 07 février 2010 - 09:17 .


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He's certainly in it, no doubt about that. Whether or not he's actually a party member I'm not convinced there is enough evidence to prove that. Seems likely though.



I for one am looking forward to having him back, he didn't get nearly enough screentime in Origins, almost everyone picked him up as the last party member(secret companion not counted). By the time I picked him up I had already got my party set up the way I liked it and he didn't really fit into that. I really liked his character, so having him back should be fun.

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the one kicking the door seems just a "regular" Arcane Warrior with Combat Magic and Fade Shroud (or whatever it's called) on. probably thrown in the trailers because it's flashy or something



as for Oghren being the returning character...well, he definitely IS returning, but so is Alistair.. and I'm pretty sure the latter is not going to be a party member (or at least not for long)



as much as i'd like the Sten to show up, he makes no sense unless the Qunari are going to invade Ferelden (...or the darkspawn move to their lands)

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Isn't this... the fifth or sixth thread around here? There is nowhere specified that it's OUR old favorite returning. BioWare can make whatever decision they wish, even put Anora in the party.

Also, it's said that Oghren was written by more writers, even though Jay Turner did most of the stuff.



So let's see :

David Gaider : Alistair, Zevran, Morrigan, Shale

Sheryl Chee : Dog, Leliana, Wynne

Mary Kirby : Sten, Loghain.

Jay Turner : Oghren

Since all four writers used their skills combined for Oghren, why make them all make the decision of who gets more work and not work together for Oghren once again?

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xCobalt wrote...

They are probably in denial because they simply don't want him as a party member. That's probably the only reason I can think of for why people are so adamant about this issue.


Maybe because he can be the default returning character? Like for a new Orlesian Grey warden? We see KING Alistair in the trailers too, that doesn't mean everyone choose him to be king.

Maybe Awakenings is much like Origins or better, and wateva we choose in the big game, will go over in the expansion. What if our REAL favourite returned?

But i am ok with Oghren too. And there are other companions which might be interesting, why not try them too?

Modifié par ankuu, 07 février 2010 - 10:21 .


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citizenEXTINCT wrote...

King Killoth wrote...

I still think its duncan as the
returning person. in the trailers you see a ghost kick in the door and
its eaither duncan or calin


So you think a ghost is going to be a party member?



Yeah, that's just a generic Arcane Warrior, not a ghost. See? This is my PC getting chomped on by a dragon, unmodded.


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pChar wrote...

If Bioware wanted to keep it a surprise for us to see it in game who the returing companion is, well, then I dont think they would have thrown Oghren all over the trailer.
It just doesnt make any sense, I doubt that Bioware would be that stupid and spoil it in the very first trailer.
Anyway, I wouldnt mind Oghren returning, he was pretty cool character and I'd like to see him again but if he IS returning...
...well then im gonna be dissapointed and angry at Bioware for showing us such a big spoiler.


I pretty much agree with you. I do have a lot of faith in Bioware :)

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Maybe bioware it just toying with us making us think it's oghren or maybe not
but if they were .. how could they do that to us :unsure:

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Why does anyone think we're keeping something as a big secret?



We've only discussed one party member so far, and very little about the expansion as a whole. We'll talk about the rest when we get to it.

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One question, if you could answer : But if it isn't Oghren, why fool us fans?

If it's a big secret, it's obviously not him.

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David Gaider wrote...

Why does anyone think we're keeping something as a big secret?

We've only discussed one party member so far, and very little about the expansion as a whole. We'll talk about the rest when we get to it.


I think most people are pulling the "big secret" from a ign interview from awhile back where the person they were interviewing said that they were essentially keeping the returning companion secret until closer to the release date.

Modifié par Posioned, 07 février 2010 - 11:19 .