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[Rafaelan]

David Gaider wrote...

Deiser wrote...
But in seriousness, I'm highly suspecting that they'll pull a Mass Effect in terms of the companion, and it'll be whoever has the highest friendship with the player (and if the character has max affinity with multiple people and no romance, it'd go down a certain order or be selected randomly). If a new character is created, the companion defaults to Oghren.

This is very much NOT the case. We do not have the budget in an expansion to do full versions of multiple characters from Origins only to let the player use one. While that would be great from a replayability standpoint, it's just not feasible. Everyone does not get their own "personal favorite" coming back. That's just the way it is, folks.

I understand that you cannot incorporate every possible permentation of player choices into this expansion or future expansions, it certainly would get out of control quickly. But I don't buy the "budget comment" especially when you have already scaled down those companions who could\\\\\\\\would possibly have a reason to return in Awakenings given their possible epilogues in Origins.

Characters like Sten (returning home), Wynne (mage tower), Morrigan (off with child), Shale (stomping pigeons somewhere) & Loghain (dead via the player or in the deep roads) you have pretty well alluded to the fact that they have gone their own way at the end. So no need to bring back that voice talent for this expansion unless you choose to do so for a small cameo.

That leaves like 4 possible characters that could conceivably return as companions: Leliana, Alistair, Zevran & Oghren...and you have already hinted that Alistair's role will be as a cameo (king)...and quite frankly the possible endings of Oghren & Zevran certainly hint that they most likely go thier own way...Zevran back to Antiva, Oghren off on his own...and even if a player DID have an ending which one of these guys stayed (Oghren as a general in Fereldan army (only possible ending where he stays BTW and it doesn't say with the PC) or Zevran, helping to train wardens) it certainly appears to me that they could easily serve small cameo roles\\temporary companions, using little voice talent.

Even regarding Alistair as king, I would suspect there is a story on how he becomes king if that wasn't a person's choice...but regardless of people complaining I thought you (via Arl Eamon) foreshadowed Alistair becoming king regardless of the players' intent...after all they didn't fight all these years to have a kingdom of their own only to let a foreigner (Anora) assume the throne...I thought this was expressed pretty darn clear to the PC.

I seriously give kudos to you for a brilliant concept, tell a great story with a diverse set of companions who you can (IMO) seemlessly write in\\out of the players continuing story to keep your budget from spiraling out of control while still giving players a lot of choices and I would not be surprised in the least to see some of these companions again (in cameo's or as full companions even)...it is a fantastic concept for a game.

I just hope that you don't succumb to writing a companion character (Leliana or any companion for that matter) out of the story via a scripted prologue or a small cheesy death cutscene like that elf maid in the Noble Origin. The possible endings with her certainly seem difficult to realistically write a way out of...at least from Origins to Awakenings, however going forward from there who knows what the future hold.

Modifié par Rafaelan, 11 février 2010 - 12:46 .

[Gaudion]

I think the first time the words "Oghren" and "favorite" ever appeared in the same sentence was in Bioware's press on Awakening. Regardless of any given person's opinion on the characters at large, I don't think anyone could reasonably argue that the story was driven more by Morrigan and Alistair than any other character; if anyone was slated to return, it should have been one of or both of them.



So now I'm stuck with the worthless dwarf, an uninteresting male wizard, and one passable party member in the elven spellcaster (and likely druid). Those other three new party members had better be dynamite or I might not even be able to assemble a full party. Or at least not one I would like...

[Bratt1204]

Melca36 wrote...

Bratt1204 wrote...

Taken from Greywardens.com

Which companion do you want to see returning in Awakening?

Morrigan (42%, 715 Votes)
Alistair (32%, 539 Votes)
Leliana (26%, 444 Votes)
Dog (9%, 149 Votes)
Zevran (8%, 131 Votes)
The Secret Companion (7%, 112 Votes)
Oghren (5%, 88 Votes)
Sten (5%, 86 Votes)
Wynne (4%, 63 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,689

It says alot when more people want The Secret Companion over Oghren.  

My thoughts exactly. 

[A.N.A.N]

Angel of Nessus wrote...

Now, see, I don't disapprove of this idea- Oggy becoming a Warden, that is.  He would have been far cooler if only he had a DWARVEN accent, and not an excessively gruff american one (I have said this about all DO:A dwarves, and shall say it over and over to all who would listen).  I'll even take the current accent if only he would stop mangling british curses and slang with it (I have said this as well, and yadayada).  A Warden Oggy with a less nails-on-chalkboard speech pattern would be win.

Please, Bioware, heed my prayers.  Make Oghren cool.

Answer me this, what would you consider a 'DWARVEN accent'. Because I'm pretty sure Thedosian Dwaves have a dwarven accent. That it sounds Americanto you is a coincidence.

[Hugmejohnny]

Bratt1204 wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Bratt1204 wrote...

Taken from Greywardens.com

Which companion do you want to see returning in Awakening?

Morrigan (42%, 715 Votes)
Alistair (32%, 539 Votes)
Leliana (26%, 444 Votes)
Dog (9%, 149 Votes)
Zevran (8%, 131 Votes)
The Secret Companion (7%, 112 Votes)
Oghren (5%, 88 Votes)
Sten (5%, 86 Votes)
Wynne (4%, 63 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,689

It says alot when more people want The Secret Companion over Oghren.  

My thoughts exactly. 

You can't pick one poll and treat it like fact. The biggest one on this forum had Oghren in 4th place, well above Zevran, although well below Morrigan. Plus polls only give you one option. How many of you like only ONE companion? How many like multiple companions. Polls are flawed and prove squat.

Although I do think the tons of polls I've seen have Alistair, Morrigan, and Leliana on top by ALLOT does say something... all other companions have diffrent places depending on the poll.

Sadly story wise, the three of them just don't make much sense.

Even more upsetting is I don't see Alistair or Leliana ever being companions in future X-paks or sequals, although I can easily see morrigans return!

Modifié par Hugmejohnny, 11 février 2010 - 01:05 .

[sonlockdon]

actualy that showed that almost the average amount of people prefered some characters over oghren dont get me wrong everyone has their opinion on each and every character but personaly i would place dog before i picked oghren.

[Hugmejohnny]

sonlockdon wrote...

actualy that showed that almost the average amount of people prefered some characters over oghren dont get me wrong everyone has their opinion on each and every character but personaly i would place dog before i picked oghren.

Whatever, you trust that poll, fine. Personally I don't trust any poll, not even the one that has Oghren up in 4th place. I am surprised the secret companion made it so high in that thread though. Normally even Wynne is higher then him in such polls.

[sonlockdon]

well different people have different opinions.

[Hugmejohnny]

sonlockdon wrote...

well different people have different opinions.

It's fascinating how one person can love something and another loathe it. The world is a complex place.

[RangerSG]

Hugmejohnny wrote...
*snip*
Even more upsetting is I don't see Alistair or Leliana ever being companions in future X-paks or sequals, although I can easily see morrigans return!

OK, I see this said fairly often. And as far as Alistair goes, I can buy it. But Leliana? *scratches head* What in her story makes it impossible for her to re-appear?

If the PC is carried over, it's likely the two of you would travel together, given as it's easy to get 100% friendship with her. If you're the Orlesian Warden, it's very likely she'd want to accompany the Warden into the Deep Roads so she can either "join her Warden" or in the hopes of making herself contacts in Orlais again.

In any event, it's just as easy to see her in an expansion as Oghren, who by all the epilogues does something on his own, without the Warden.

Now, that's an expansion, not DA2, which I am convinced won't be a direct sequel and will follow on from things we heard about in a certain codex entry from an Arl regarding children, Arlathan and Orlais.

[Hugmejohnny]

RangerSG wrote...

Hugmejohnny wrote...
*snip*
Even more upsetting is I don't see Alistair or Leliana ever being companions in future X-paks or sequals, although I can easily see morrigans return!

OK, I see this said fairly often. And as far as Alistair goes, I can buy it. But Leliana? *scratches head* What in her story makes it impossible for her to re-appear?

If the PC is carried over, it's likely the two of you would travel together, given as it's easy to get 100% friendship with her. If you're the Orlesian Warden, it's very likely she'd want to accompany the Warden into the Deep Roads so she can either "join her Warden" or in the hopes of making herself contacts in Orlais again.

In any event, it's just as easy to see her in an expansion as Oghren, who by all the epilogues does something on his own, without the Warden.

Now, that's an expansion, not DA2, which I am convinced won't be a direct sequel and will follow on from things we heard about in a certain codex entry from an Arl regarding children, Arlathan and Orlais.

Well heres my little list of reasons HANG ON FOR A BUMPY RIDE!

1. She can be easily left behind for dead and never even picked up. I didn't know she existed in my first play through.

2. She can be killed in at least one quest.

3. Her personality can shift depending on the outcome of her personal quest.

4. She can be romanced or not.

5. One of her endings strongly hints at suicide.

Bundle up 1-5 and it doesn't look good for leliana fans. Just hope for a well done cameo. Maybe she'll return, but I wouldn't even bet a dollar on it.

Modifié par Hugmejohnny, 11 février 2010 - 03:49 .

[RangerSG]

Hugmejohnny wrote...

RangerSG wrote...

Hugmejohnny wrote...
*snip*
Even more upsetting is I don't see Alistair or Leliana ever being companions in future X-paks or sequals, although I can easily see morrigans return!

OK, I see this said fairly often. And as far as Alistair goes, I can buy it. But Leliana? *scratches head* What in her story makes it impossible for her to re-appear?

If the PC is carried over, it's likely the two of you would travel together, given as it's easy to get 100% friendship with her. If you're the Orlesian Warden, it's very likely she'd want to accompany the Warden into the Deep Roads so she can either "join her Warden" or in the hopes of making herself contacts in Orlais again.

In any event, it's just as easy to see her in an expansion as Oghren, who by all the epilogues does something on his own, without the Warden.

Now, that's an expansion, not DA2, which I am convinced won't be a direct sequel and will follow on from things we heard about in a certain codex entry from an Arl regarding children, Arlathan and Orlais.

Well heres my little list of reasons HANG ON FOR A BUMPY RIDE!

1. She can be easily left behind for dead and never even picked up. I didn't know she existed in my first play through.

2. She can be killed in at least one quest.

3. Her personality can shift depending on the outcome of her personal quest.

4. She can be romanced or not.

5. One of her endings strongly hints at suicide.

Bundle up 1-5 and it doesn't look good for leliana fans. Just hope for a well done cameo. Maybe she'll return, but I wouldn't even bet a dollar on it.

Oghren can be killed too. Yes it's hard, but he can be. In fact every PC can be dumped or killed. So the "continuity glitch" issue is a non-starter. In fact, every epilogue has Oghren leaving the PC, so every epilogue will be changed with him. Every one of the "returning" characters would have potential continuity issues.

And yes, one of her endings is a suicide (I even noted it as a possible way of her being involved in the Awakening questline, if you look back at what I said).

Romance or not does not affect anything, since she can say she wants to travel with you and is easy to get to 100% friendship "hardened" for not. Also the "hardening" personality choices really don't affect terribly much of their personality outside the romance. Leliana still isn't going to be thrilled at your dark deeds if you "harden" her any more than Alistair is if you do the same to him. The effect of that in plot terms is minimal. And as far as importing, both friendship vs romance and regular vs hardening could be taken care of with 2 variables in a single conversation for carrying it over.

Now, I've said before that I do think it's Oghren returning. But when it comes to the categorical statements that it's somehow oh-so-difficult to bring back Leliana...erm, no. From the standpoint of the story, she's the absolute easiet of the PC's companions to justify bringing along, since she in almost every case will absolutely want to be the PC's companion, whether romanced or not. And personally I don't think she's going to be just "written out" with some lame breakup like another game supposedly did. But as I've said before, everything here is pure speculation. The only thing we can do is make clear what speculation is on valid grounds and what is not. The "continuity" argument falls clearly in the "bunk" pile, because Oghren's story changes no matter what. The only stories that wouldn't *have* to change, ironically are romanced Zev and Lel stories. Continuity hits everyone to some degree.

Modifié par RangerSG, 11 février 2010 - 04:08 .

[Nobody Important]

RangerSG wrote...

Hugmejohnny wrote...
*snip*
Even more upsetting is I don't see Alistair or Leliana ever being companions in future X-paks or sequals, although I can easily see morrigans return!

OK, I see this said fairly often. And as far as Alistair goes, I can buy it. But Leliana? *scratches head* What in her story makes it impossible for her to re-appear?

If the PC is carried over, it's likely the two of you would travel together, given as it's easy to get 100% friendship with her. If you're the Orlesian Warden, it's very likely she'd want to accompany the Warden into the Deep Roads so she can either "join her Warden" or in the hopes of making herself contacts in Orlais again.

In any event, it's just as easy to see her in an expansion as Oghren, who by all the epilogues does something on his own, without the Warden.

Now, that's an expansion, not DA2, which I am convinced won't be a direct sequel and will follow on from things we heard about in a certain codex entry from an Arl regarding children, Arlathan and Orlais.

She is dead in 8 of my characters' stories. I personally killed her except in 1 where I left her in Lothering to die. Also in one of the endings she commits suicide.

[Darkemorrow]

RangerSG wrote...

Hugmejohnny wrote...

RangerSG wrote...

Hugmejohnny wrote...
*snip*
Even more upsetting is I don't see Alistair or Leliana ever being companions in future X-paks or sequals, although I can easily see morrigans return!

OK, I see this said fairly often. And as far as Alistair goes, I can buy it. But Leliana? *scratches head* What in her story makes it impossible for her to re-appear?

If the PC is carried over, it's likely the two of you would travel together, given as it's easy to get 100% friendship with her. If you're the Orlesian Warden, it's very likely she'd want to accompany the Warden into the Deep Roads so she can either "join her Warden" or in the hopes of making herself contacts in Orlais again.

In any event, it's just as easy to see her in an expansion as Oghren, who by all the epilogues does something on his own, without the Warden.

Now, that's an expansion, not DA2, which I am convinced won't be a direct sequel and will follow on from things we heard about in a certain codex entry from an Arl regarding children, Arlathan and Orlais.

Well heres my little list of reasons HANG ON FOR A BUMPY RIDE!

1. She can be easily left behind for dead and never even picked up. I didn't know she existed in my first play through.

2. She can be killed in at least one quest.

3. Her personality can shift depending on the outcome of her personal quest.

4. She can be romanced or not.

5. One of her endings strongly hints at suicide.

Bundle up 1-5 and it doesn't look good for leliana fans. Just hope for a well done cameo. Maybe she'll return, but I wouldn't even bet a dollar on it.

Oghren can be killed too. Yes it's hard, but he can be. In fact every PC can be dumped or killed. So the "continuity glitch" issue is a non-starter. In fact, every epilogue has Oghren leaving the PC, so every epilogue will be changed with him. Every one of the "returning" characters would have potential continuity issues.

And yes, one of her endings is a suicide (I even noted it as a possible way of her being involved in the Awakening questline, if you look back at what I said).

Romance or not does not affect anything, since she can say she wants to travel with you and is easy to get to 100% friendship "hardened" for not. Also the "hardening" personality choices really don't affect terribly much of their personality outside the romance. Leliana still isn't going to be thrilled at your dark deeds if you "harden" her any more than Alistair is if you do the same to him. The effect of that in plot terms is minimal. And as far as importing, both friendship vs romance and regular vs hardening could be taken care of with 2 variables in a single conversation for carrying it over.

Now, I've said before that I do think it's Oghren returning. But when it comes to the categorical statements that it's somehow oh-so-difficult to bring back Leliana...erm, no. From the standpoint of the story, she's the absolute easiet of the PC's companions to justify bringing along, since she in almost every case will absolutely want to be the PC's companion, whether romanced or not. And personally I don't think she's going to be just "written out" with some lame breakup like another game supposedly did. But as I've said before, everything here is pure speculation. The only thing we can do is make clear what speculation is on valid grounds and what is not. The "continuity" argument falls clearly in the "bunk" pile, because Oghren's story changes no matter what. The only stories that wouldn't *have* to change, ironically are romanced Zev and Lel stories. Continuity hits everyone to some degree.

Oghren can be killed but you seriously have to go out of your way to ****** him off - unlike most other companions who will turn on you if you make a certain wrong decision, regardless of their approval up until that point. And you have to recruit him at one point, unlike some companions who can be missed altogether. And perhaps most importantly, he has the most stable ending - he stays in Ferelden one way or another at the end. The point is that while he's not a perfect choice, out of all the companions Oghren is the most likely to be available to the player at the end of Origins given all of the variables within the story.

Modifié par Darkemorrow, 11 février 2010 - 04:19 .

[Hugmejohnny]

RangerSG wrote...

Hugmejohnny wrote...

RangerSG wrote...

Hugmejohnny wrote...
*snip*
Even more upsetting is I don't see Alistair or Leliana ever being companions in future X-paks or sequals, although I can easily see morrigans return!

OK, I see this said fairly often. And as far as Alistair goes, I can buy it. But Leliana? *scratches head* What in her story makes it impossible for her to re-appear?

If the PC is carried over, it's likely the two of you would travel together, given as it's easy to get 100% friendship with her. If you're the Orlesian Warden, it's very likely she'd want to accompany the Warden into the Deep Roads so she can either "join her Warden" or in the hopes of making herself contacts in Orlais again.

In any event, it's just as easy to see her in an expansion as Oghren, who by all the epilogues does something on his own, without the Warden.

Now, that's an expansion, not DA2, which I am convinced won't be a direct sequel and will follow on from things we heard about in a certain codex entry from an Arl regarding children, Arlathan and Orlais.

Well heres my little list of reasons HANG ON FOR A BUMPY RIDE!

1. She can be easily left behind for dead and never even picked up. I didn't know she existed in my first play through.

2. She can be killed in at least one quest.

3. Her personality can shift depending on the outcome of her personal quest.

4. She can be romanced or not.

5. One of her endings strongly hints at suicide.

Bundle up 1-5 and it doesn't look good for leliana fans. Just hope for a well done cameo. Maybe she'll return, but I wouldn't even bet a dollar on it.

Oghren can be killed too. Yes it's hard, but he can be. In fact every PC can be dumped or killed. So the "continuity glitch" issue is a non-starter. In fact, every epilogue has Oghren leaving the PC, so every epilogue will be changed with him. Every one of the "returning" characters would have potential continuity issues.

And yes, one of her endings is a suicide (I even noted it as a possible way of her being involved in the Awakening questline, if you look back at what I said).

Romance or not does not affect anything, since she can say she wants to travel with you and is easy to get to 100% friendship "hardened" for not. Also the "hardening" personality choices really don't affect terribly much of their personality outside the romance. Leliana still isn't going to be thrilled at your dark deeds if you "harden" her any more than Alistair is if you do the same to him. The effect of that in plot terms is minimal. And as far as importing, both friendship vs romance and regular vs hardening could be taken care of with 2 variables in a single conversation for carrying it over.

Now, I've said before that I do think it's Oghren returning. But when it comes to the categorical statements that it's somehow oh-so-difficult to bring back Leliana...erm, no. From the standpoint of the story, she's the absolute easiet of the PC's companions to justify bringing along, since she in almost every case will absolutely want to be the PC's companion, whether romanced or not. And personally I don't think she's going to be just "written out" with some lame breakup like another game supposedly did. But as I've said before, everything here is pure speculation. The only thing we can do is make clear what speculation is on valid grounds and what is not. The "continuity" argument falls clearly in the "bunk" pile, because Oghren's story changes no matter what. The only stories that wouldn't *have* to change, ironically are romanced Zev and Lel stories. Continuity hits everyone to some degree.

Well, someone just explained what happens with Oghren. You CAN kill him, but only by using the console to make his approval -100, in which case you get a kill option, but the game will still treat him as alive and he'll get an epilouge as if he were alive. So you can, but really CAN'T kill him. but thats beside the point.

I think you really want Leliana back and maybe aren't seeing reason here. You say she's the absolute easiest to bring back due to story. Dude, she's dead in three of my four games. First I missed her, second she took a trip down he suicide highway, and the third we had a disagreement .

[RangerSG]

He stays in Ferelden...but not with the PC, ever. So it's hardly "stable" from the standpoint of "not creating continuity issues." In fact, by all your logic, you agree with my core point...he *always* makes a need to make a continuity change.



And I don't "really" want Leliana or any particular character back--if that "coming back" ruins DA:A's story. I'm simply pointing out the giant gaping hole in the "Oghren is easiest" argument. He's not "that" easy. Every single character can be booted/killed. And for "continuity" booting creates all the same issues. No matter what, something is going to have to be done to check for player choices from before and "adjust" them. Or a "canon" change is going to have to be made to revisit the PC's choice.



I don't have the Oghren hate of many on these threads. I'd like to see him more fully developed in fact. But I don't think he's somehow "more stable" than Lel or Zev. He's more stable than Morrigan, Alistair and Sten. But honestly, Wynne could be the returning character just as easily as Oghren could, by the logic employed in this.

[Hugmejohnny]

RangerSG wrote...

He stays in Ferelden...but not with the PC, ever. So it's hardly "stable" from the standpoint of "not creating continuity issues." In fact, by all your logic, you agree with my core point...he *always* makes a need to make a continuity change.

And I don't "really" want Leliana or any particular character back--if that "coming back" ruins DA:A's story. I'm simply pointing out the giant gaping hole in the "Oghren is easiest" argument. He's not "that" easy. Every single character can be booted/killed. And for "continuity" booting creates all the same issues. No matter what, something is going to have to be done to check for player choices from before and "adjust" them. Or a "canon" change is going to have to be made to revisit the PC's choice.

I don't have the Oghren hate of many on these threads. I'd like to see him more fully developed in fact. But I don't think he's somehow "more stable" than Lel or Zev. He's more stable than Morrigan, Alistair and Sten. But honestly, Wynne could be the returning character just as easily as Oghren could, by the logic employed in this.

Awakaning takes place months after the end of origins and we have no idea how and where you meet Oghren so what does there need to be any continuity change? Oghren can't be killed without cheating and his apperance in awakaning can easily match his epilouge. He's far more stable than Lel or Zev because you can't romance him and you can't kill him. It's pretty simple. I think you may be losing me here somewhere, I don't see where your going.

Modifié par Hugmejohnny, 11 février 2010 - 04:56 .

[Kenorv]

Oghren makes the most sense based on the endings. I mean for most of the characters, Bioware would have to come up with some really good reasons as to why those characters would come back to help the PC. They're not facing a blight this time, and I doubt that any of the other characters want to become Grey Wardens so what purpose would they have in rejoining the PC? Remember this expansion is about rebuilding the Grey Wardens so maybe Oghren returns because he's the only one that wants to become a Grey Warden.

[Vamphuntr]

Oghren is the returning character like it or not. I don't like him at all but what can I do. I find it weird that people bring continuity in question. In BG 2 no matter if you killed some NPC in BG they would be back in 2. Jaheira would be back, Minsc too. Khalid would always dies in 2 too. Your save is not a mythical proof that the game will flow like you want.



Bioware can retcon the hell out of it if they want. It was already proven that the final save you get is when you kill the final boss and not during the coronation ceremony. Heck the epilogue doesn't mean much. They could have brought anyone if they wanted but that's not the case for now. Complaining with polls or overanalyzing polls or discrediting them won't change much guys. They probably had concepts and ideas for 2 mages, 2 rogues and they filled one up with a warrior from DAO.

[WilliamShatner]

stow5920 wrote...

Seems to me a lot of people don't care about whether it makes sense or not in the story and just want their favourite back for no reason other than fanservice. Seriously, what's the point of bringing Zevran, Leliana or especially Morrgian back? I love Morrigan, but I don't want to see her again at all until Dragon Age 2. Zevran and Leliana are done, there is nothing left to do with those characters. Neither of them want to be Grey Wardens, and they leave the country at the end of the game unless you romance them. Everyone leaves the country except Alistair and Oghren, take a hint.

I hope Oghren goes through the Joining and becomes a Grey Warden, that would cool, I could see him doing it. Also hope he plays a bigger role than just comedy, he has potential which anyone who took Oghren to the Fade or Guardian would have seen.

I'll let you kids go back to stomping your feet now.

Yes, curse you people who want to see the reasons why you loved the original game brought back!  Curses!

[KneeTheCap]

Hmh, I wonder what kind of debate arises for the DA2...



As to the point, I never liked Oghren, nor did I hate him. He was, in my opinion, too shallow and cliched character, but nevertheless, he was a companion. If he is the one returning playable character, then so be it. I've already pre-ordered awakening and I have no intention to cancel it. SO, guys, let's just wait for an awesome expansion, play it and lose ourselves in that world again?

[Walina]

David Gaider wrote...

Deiser wrote...
But in seriousness, I'm highly suspecting that they'll pull a Mass Effect in terms of the companion, and it'll be whoever has the highest friendship with the player (and if the character has max affinity with multiple people and no romance, it'd go down a certain order or be selected randomly). If a new character is created, the companion defaults to Oghren.

This is very much NOT the case. We do not have the budget in an expansion to do full versions of multiple characters from Origins only to let the player use one. While that would be great from a replayability standpoint, it's just not feasible. Everyone does not get their own "personal favorite" coming back. That's just the way it is, folks.

You just had to avoid adding then any old companions so none will have felt frustrated and you may complain to the maketing section because they labeled Orgrhen as "your favorite companion"

But, it's understable to people to have hoped that their pc lover will be able to join them since you made a dating sim system in the origin. But, yeah, it would've been unfair for Morrigan's fans but you could've always told them that it's how the story is, she had to leave and can't be returning.

But not making others lovers available is an error in my point of view since they remain my pc side at the of the story.

[Spitz6860]

Walina wrote...

You just had to avoid adding then any old companions so none will have felt frustrated and you may complain to the maketing section because they labeled Orgrhen as "your favorite companion"

yeah i really wanna punch the person who wrote the feature list for Awakening, a returning old favorite? what does that even mean? everybody has a different favorite, out of all the words you can use why use such a subjective word? it's just misleading.

[NKKKK]

Hey David if there isn't a conspiracy, just say it's Oghren.



Hey Priestly, remember when you said that people shouldn't get their hopes up about a Tali romance or Legion as a squadmate? yeahhhh

[Proposition_Joe]

Its all comes down to money and time. From that angle Oghren seems easiest for an expansion.

But this doesnt even need to be discussed, its him that is the "favourite" companion.

But i really hope i can deny him grey warden status(if that is what he wants) or leave him at camp for the whole expansion.