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[Striker257]

Go OCD somewhere else. Its extras to encourage people to buy the game early. Its not required nor necessary.

[Ninja Ataris]

I'm sure they'll release all the promotional content at a later date. Then you can grab what you want or maybe even get it for free. I wouldn't worry.

[DKnightPortela]

ChookAttack wrote...

What I find particularly amusing are the posts that complain about various practices concerning DLC, demanding a change in policy, yet the person complaining usually admits they have purchased as many of the items and DLC as they are able.  That'll show Bioware that their marketing plans aren't working. 

Wrong, Many have already spoken that they WILL NOT buy any more DLC from this franchise, me included (of course the free content is free) but as a mean of protest will not increase EA's fat greedy suit wallet anymore when they pursue this mega million dollar bussiness at the expense of their PAYING customers when they forget we PC/Xbox players have something called P2P, way to go to alienate paying customers EA suits but what do you expect from a company ran by a CEO that never played a game in his life and among his work experience worked as CEO of a bakery factory line and brought that to a gaming company?

[JamesT91]

your actually gonna cry because u cant get some stupid armour?

1 its not a big deal its only a few items

2 it will most likely be released for normal download at a later date

get over it

[Mister Mage]

Woah woah woah.



What's wrong with the Dragon Age content linked to the Flash game?

[Burdokva]

I'm not a fan of promotional DLC either, but I can't fully agree with the OP. If you want to promote pre-orders and buying new games, fine - but make sure you actually go through and provide all stores with the needed codes and support. Not wasting the time of your customers, who had to wait a week for a delayed copy, to then prove that they pre-ordered and explain why their local store was completely ignored by EA Marketing.

The Cerberus Network Card isn't a bad idea - I don't buy used games. However, if at some point when the price of Mass Effect 2 naturally drops and they decide to pull the plug and make you buy the CNC for a new game, that would be disgusting. I don't expect the great DLC to be free, but if there's at least a regular nod to fans who bought a new ME2 copy, it's okay I guess. Maybe people expected more, but I thought Zaeed was a nice addition.

The Collector's armor and weapon should be exclusive to the CE edition, period. You feel cheated for not having the Incisor for the X360 because of EA? Than what can I say when I paid for CE content and thanks to Microsoft's stupidity a lot of people downloaded it for free? It's part of the package, just as the art book and the metal case. Sorry I can't agree with you here.

To be honest, though, I'm firmly against platform-based DLC (and I'm a PC exclusive player). Whether you have in on the box or a PC, it should be the exact same game and what you play on should come down to personal preference for controls, hardware costs and such, not exclusive content.

The Dr.Pepper stuff... I can only thank the great fellow forum members who gave me three free codes so I could get them. Location restricted promotions are as bad, if not worse, than the platform-specific DLC. Those three items could (and in my opinion) should have been in-game content from the start.

EDIT: I forgot about that, but I think the Blood Dragon armor DLC isn't a bad idea - it rewards BioWare's longtime fans and customers, nothing wrong with that. As a matter of fact, it would have been nice to get a small item for importing a ME1 character, too. 

Modifié par Burdokva, 08 février 2010 - 02:56 .

[DKnightPortela]

Burdokva wrote...

I'm not a fan of promotional DLC either, but I can't fully agree with the OP. If you want to promote pre-orders and buying new games, fine - but make sure you actually go through and provide all stores with the needed codes and support. Not wasting the time of your customers, who had to wait a week for a delayed copy, to then prove that they pre-ordered and explain why their local store was completely ignored by EA Marketing.

The Cerberus Network Card isn't a bad idea - I don't buy used games. However, if at some point when the price of Mass Effect 2 naturally drops and they decide to pull the plug and make you buy the CNC for a new game, that would be disgusting. I don't expect the great DLC to be free, but if there's at least a regular nod to fans who bought a new ME2 copy, it's okay I guess. Maybe people expected more, but I thought Zaeed was a nice addition.

The Collector's armor and weapon should be exclusive to the CE edition, period. You feel cheated for not having the Incisor for the X360 because of EA? Than what can I say when I paid for CE content and thanks to Microsoft's stupidity a lot of people downloaded it for free? It's part of the package, just as the art book and the metal case. Sorry I can't agree with you here.

To be honest, though, I'm firmly against platform-based DLC (and I'm a PC exclusive player). Whether you have in on the box or a PC, it should be the exact same game and what you play on should come down to personal preference for controls, hardware costs and such, not exclusive content.

The Dr.Pepper stuff... I can only thank the great fellow forum members who gave me three free codes so I could get them. Location restricted promotions are as bad, if not worse, than the platform-specific DLC. Those three items could (and in my opinion) should have been in-game content from the start.

EDIT: I forgot about that, but I think the Blood Dragon armor DLC isn't a bad idea - it rewards BioWare's longtime fans and customers, nothing wrong with that. As a matter of fact, it would have been nice to get a small item for importing a ME1 character, too. 

Logical and civilized. I agree.

[Shard of Truth]

I'm also against platform specific DLC and really hope that all promo items, you cannot acquire anymore, will be made available in the future.

[JaegerBane]

I do have to admit that the DLC items on Dr. Pepper was a bit annoying. No need to release stuff purely for the US (that said, those goggles looked like something out Morrowind.....)

[JaegerBane]

I do have to admit that the DLC items on Dr. Pepper was a bit annoying. No need to release stuff purely for the US (that said, those goggles looked like something out Morrowind.....)

[Master of Smash]

Thanks to those of you who have voiced support!

I posted this over on the GameFAQs thread, and I figure it might add to the discussion here too:

From: GuyMawks | #105
"I think the TC has been overly-generous in this thread by ignoring most of the dlc-on-release to focus only on the promotional stuff."

I focused on the promotion-exclusive DLC more so than "free on release" DLC simply because of availability.

As a completionist, I'll tell you what irks me the most: Not being able to finish a game entirely. I'm not this way with every game... No, only the major ones I'm going to replay. So when I know there's content out there for the game I'm trying to 100%, but I can not access it because I missed some limited-time promotional requirement, I feel that the game experience I paid for is not complete.

Many have said that we are not entitled to anything beyond the base game, and that is technically true, but how can anyone not be at least annoyed by the fact that developers are adding content to supposedly finished games, and making that content available exclusively via these inconvenient and expensive promotions? I see nothing wrong with a developer offering worthwhile content for a fair price a while after a game's release, but developers these days are pushing the limit of what they can get away with if you ask me. In short, you could say I approve of substantial "Expansions" to games, and disapprove of all these "Add-Ons" which are often much harder to get. Whatever happened to the way games used to be? There was a time when, once you paid for a game, you had the full game at your disposal, and you didn't have to worry about promotions, Collector's Editions or bonus material.

In short, if the gaming industry insists on continuing this practice of adding on DLC after games are released, I think that they should at least make ALL "bonus" content available within a reasonable time to everyone who buys the game. Otherwise, completionists and "hardcore" fans who pay full price for such games are not able to truly have the "complete" experience unless they meet all of the promotional requirements. And remember, "complete" is subjective - all of you who couldn't care less about this topic, there's no need to bash those with different definitions for the term.

I'm not a fan of paying for add-on DLC like Horse Armor or item packs, but if it's for a game I really want to 100%, then of course I want to have the option to buy the DLC. Many are expecting to release the Mass Effect 2 promotional DLC as purchaseable Marketplace content later on, but consider Dragon Age: Origins' promo content: That game was released about three months ago, and we've heard nothing about it going up for sale.

On a related note, my opinion on "Collector's Edition" exclusive content: Honestly, I would prefer such special editions of games to only offer such things as special packaging, artbooks, developer commentary, or other trinkets outside of the actual game. Now that Collector's Edition in-game content has become common, certain parts of our games have become inaccessible unless you hunted down a Collector's Edition, which can be very hard to find. If in-game Collector's Edition-exclusive content continues, I would ask that developers restrict such content to intangible things such as special skins, NOT exclusive weapons, equipment, levels/missions, or story content. For instance, I don't mind that the Gears of War 2 CE has an exclusive "Gold Lancer" skin, or that the upcoming special edition of God of War III will feature exclusive character skins.

That's all I've got for now. Please post your thoughts.

Modifié par Master of Smash, 08 février 2010 - 08:58 .

[B10Reaper]

DKnightPortela wrote...

Wrong, Many have already spoken that they WILL NOT buy any more DLC from this franchise, me included (of course the free content is free) but as a mean of protest will not increase EA's fat greedy suit wallet anymore when they pursue this mega million dollar bussiness at the expense of their PAYING customers when they forget we PC/Xbox players have something called P2P, way to go to alienate paying customers EA suits but what do you expect from a company ran by a CEO that never played a game in his life and among his work experience worked as CEO of a bakery factory line and brought that to a gaming company?

BAHAHAHA!
Go to a restaurant. Order yourself a burger. Ask for an extra patty. If they charge you for it, tell them you don't want to "increase their fat greedy suit wallet", and then see what happens. It's basically the same thing. If you want more, expect to pay for it. Don't whine that people want to be paid for their work. If that's your attitude, go chop down a tree and buck some firewood for me for free, because everyone should do everything for free.

[Blue_dodo]

what is wrong with you people ? he is expressing his opinion, if you don't agree with him fine, but at least show some respect.

OP  this stuff is not "cut" content the dr.pepper  promo items are remarbly easy to get, you can get all three items just by haveing three emails and a single promo code heck there are free codes floating about, and if you need them I'll send the to you.

the other stuff was just unique pre-order items, the armor is nothing big and from what I hear the incisor rife is more of a problem then anyhing else although the black storm is awesome.

anyways if you think bioware went over board with me2 consider DAO it was insane

Modifié par Blue_dodo, 09 février 2010 - 06:13 .

[tango jack]

I think you will find that most of these items being described will be available later on as DLC its just that people will have got it first for purchasing the game in certain ways and that has always been a good marketing technique but in the end we will all have most of it anyway.

* sidenote I like some of the special armours and equipment and dislike others so I would prefer it as selectable DLC later *

[Darth Drago]

The Op is right this crap has been going on for to long. I remember back a few years ago that you would get a different item for The Sims 2 expansion packs depending on what store you got it from. It’s a lame gimmick plain and simple.



As for the content you get with these promos. Dose it matter if its good or bad? That’s a matter of the player and what he/she may think. The fact is some people, me included, wouldn’t mind getting as much as I could for any game downloadable content wise. Just because some (or most it seems on these) gripe that the content is crap doesn’t mean we wouldn’t like to have it anyways. I may never use them but I would rather have them un case I do want to one day. Lets hope that all this “crap” actually dose make it as downloads later.

[Lucy Glitter]

OP, I know exactly how you feel. The Dr. Pepper codes are only available in the US, as well which alienates everyone who isn't american. They don't need any of these kinds of things and it leads to a bunch of topics with people trading their promo codes like it's eBay!

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 09 février 2010 - 07:03 .

[B10Reaper]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

OP, I know exactly how you feel. The Dr. Pepper codes are only available in the US, as well which alienates everyone who isn't american.

... I have the content in canada. My polish friend does as well. If you want it, there's plenty of threads around telling how to do it without buying anything, and in any country. It's pretty simple.

[Bryy_Miller]

Master of Smash wrote...

how can anyone not be at least annoyed by the fact that developers are adding content to supposedly finished games, and making that content available exclusively via these inconvenient and expensive promotions?

If they are ADDING content, then by the definition of adding, the content was not there before. I honestly don't see how the idea of the internet allowing for a longer lifespan by downloadable content... I don't really see how technological progress is a problem.

In short, you could say I approve of substantial "Expansions" to games, and disapprove of all these "Add-Ons" which are often much harder to get.

I don't think you understand just what an add-on is, and what promotional content is. DLC and Expansions are purchased the same way.

Whatever happened to the way games used to be? There was a time when, once you paid for a game, you had the full game at your disposal, and you didn't have to worry about promotions, Collector's Editions or bonus material.

I don't get it. Do you somehow mean to imply that EXTRA CONTENT makes one game superior to the next? 

In short, if the gaming industry insists on continuing this practice of adding on DLC after games are released, I think that they should at least make ALL "bonus" content available within a reasonable time to everyone who buys the game. 

Yeah, they're called Game of the Year editions or the like.

 And remember, "complete" is subjective - all of you who couldn't care less about this topic, there's no need to bash those with different definitions for the term.

Except when people make false statements like "complete is subjective". Complete is not subjective. Complete means done. Adding in new material post-release does not suddenly mean the game is once again on the chalk board.

[Klimy]

Be like Vorcha - hide in dark corners of major gaming websites and go through ever bit of information

All items leaked before the release, dr.Peper are still can be obtained for free... just looky looky and you find many stuff to get for free without getting your ass in troubles.

[Arbiter Libera]

Well, I'm still waiting for BioWare to make those DA:O store-specific items avaliable to general population. Come on, it's been months already - those who planned to buy it, bought it already. And yeah, I know there are mods out there that basically do the same thing, but it's not the same.

I blame Pokemons and "gotta catch 'em all!".

Modifié par Arbiter Libera, 09 février 2010 - 10:56 .

[Chromie]

MassAccelerator wrote...

They are going to release all of the promotional DLC at a later date. And when the DLC leaked a few days before the game's release, I managed to snag the Incisor rifle for the Xbox.

Are you serious?
Who said that?

Console fanboy is complaining?!
The PC users have to suffer. Cover,Sprint and all that are tied to one key and we can't change it.
We have a stupid UI, ME1 was great. We deserve something something you cant get

[Loerwyn]

Oh, God forbid I get an extra assault rifle (that I replaced) and some MP3s to make up for the lack of any physical goods when I bought ME2. That's totally out of order, isn't it? How dare EA/BioWare give me something to make up for things I don't get!

Yes, I bought the DDE version. No, the rifle had completely nothing to do with my purchase. I don't see what having a "gaming PC" has to do with it at all. Aside from ME2 having low specs, I cannot fathom why you think you're being screwed over because of your PC. It's. A. Bloody. Rifle. It's not a mission pack, it's not an expansion. It's a weapon you use for a few hours and then ignore.

And Arbiter, it's been about 3 months. If they'll ever do it, it won't be for a while longer yet.

[Revid Emit]

From a Marketing standpoint, the Dr. Pepper stuff is a good idea.



And it still it is.



You guys complain too much. You want the DLC, then go buy a bottle of Dr. Pepper, jackass. No one's forcing you, and it doesn't even affect the game at the slightest.