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[B10Reaper]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Oh, God forbid I get an extra assault rifle (that I replaced) and some MP3s to make up for the lack of any physical goods when I bought ME2. That's totally out of order, isn't it? How dare EA/BioWare give me something to make up for things I don't get!

Had you gotten the collectors edition, you would have gotten "physical goods", I have no idea what the hell you are talking about otherwise, nobody got anything physical, other than the game, unless they got the collectors edition.

[robotnist]

JigPig wrote...

The.... WALL... of QQ
HURTS MY EYES.

apparently you didnt read because it was well written.

its popular for everyone to immediately jump on anyone who has an opinion contrary to those of the developer and fanboys of a game as of late... its tired.

even if this was a rant about ME1 vs ME2 (which its not) hes entitled to an opinion.

ok, my justicar dutes are done for the day...

[Loerwyn]

B10Reaper wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Oh, God forbid I get an extra assault rifle (that I replaced) and some MP3s to make up for the lack of any physical goods when I bought ME2. That's totally out of order, isn't it? How dare EA/BioWare give me something to make up for things I don't get!

Had you gotten the collectors edition, you would have gotten "physical goods", I have no idea what the hell you are talking about otherwise, nobody got anything physical, other than the game, unless they got the collectors edition.

And that's what I'm talking about. DDE was the same price as the CE, and the Incisor/Soundtrack (IMHO) were added to make the deal seem better.

[Selvec_Darkon]

I happen to agree with the OP. It's not fair.



Only started since EA bought Bioware, so you can guess where the idea came from.

[Chromie]

Infact here atleast get your Dr.Pepper crap and stop crying.





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[Bluemax151]

It's sad so many people posting are so blatantly rude when the OP has a pretty valid point in principle. It's a slippery slope that could easily progress to something far worse than some "useless" items (although I happen to have used the collector AR the whole game).



-Okay the Dr. Pepper promos turned out to be no big deal because the codes don't invalidate but what if they did? There's hardly any helmets/headgear options in game and they give entirely different bonuses than what is available. Plus it's a regional exclusive.



-The Incisor Rifle is platform specific. It's not a matter of the fact you need a computer good enough to run it but the fact you need a computer or I guess you could waste another $60 for the PC version on top of the 360 one.



I definitely understand why it's been done this way as this essentially started with store exclusive action figures and has now moved on to videogames and DVDs among other things but to those that are anal/OCD it's really annoying and does limit their enjoyment they receive from the title especially when the content isn't available in their area or on their platform. Of course this is all made worse because these people through no fault of their own missed out on an oversight where all of this content was accidentally made free for a limited time.

[Loerwyn]

It's limited content for a reason, though, and also regional for a reason.

In the EU we don't get a lot of these offers for various reasons, but generally it's because the cost : reward ratio is a lot lower than in the US. EA might not want to do the promotion over here because the advertising would be a lot less effective, and Dr Pepper might not want to do it here because their product doesn't sell as well therefore they'd not see a decent return on the deal.

By definition, "limited" means that you can only get it if you fulfill certain criterea - Location, date, purchase of a product etc. If they made all DLC available to everyone, it destroys the idea of "limited" and it would anger more people than creating the items did in the first place. Most of us here would have paid full price for ME2 and gotten a small bit of DLC for getting it pretty much on the day (Inferno or Teminus/Rifle) or for taking advantage of an offer (Incisor for DDE, Dr Pepper items, Collector Armor/Rifle), and if EA/BioWare turned around in a few weeks/months and said "Right, everyone gets all the bonus DLC" then a lot of people would be annoyed, and I mean a lot. We got that content when it was limited and if it was made available for all, it loses the status of being "limited". I paid £40 for the DDE (most preorders for the standard edition were £27ish) and because I bought the better edition, I got a set of armor and 2 rifles (collector + incisor) along with the other bonuses.

Why should someone who buys the retail edition four months later get those bonuses? By all logic, they shouldn't. People who bought the Collector's Edition got a nice case, an art book, a mini comic... Those who bought the DDE have two PDFs and a listing on Steam/somewhere else that says "Mass Effect 2", with nothing physical to show for it. The addition of the Incisor Rifle, IMHO, was to help make up the difference between the CE and DDE. As the 360 doesn't get a DDE, it should be exempt from the rifle.

[Selvec_Darkon]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

It's limited content for a reason, though, and also regional for a reason.
In the EU we don't get a lot of these offers for various reasons, but generally it's because the cost : reward ratio is a lot lower than in the US. EA might not want to do the promotion over here because the advertising would be a lot less effective, and Dr Pepper might not want to do it here because their product doesn't sell as well therefore they'd not see a decent return on the deal.
By definition, "limited" means that you can only get it if you fulfill certain criterea - Location, date, purchase of a product etc. If they made all DLC available to everyone, it destroys the idea of "limited" and it would anger more people than creating the items did in the first place. Most of us here would have paid full price for ME2 and gotten a small bit of DLC for getting it pretty much on the day (Inferno or Teminus/Rifle) or for taking advantage of an offer (Incisor for DDE, Dr Pepper items, Collector Armor/Rifle), and if EA/BioWare turned around in a few weeks/months and said "Right, everyone gets all the bonus DLC" then a lot of people would be annoyed, and I mean a lot. We got that content when it was limited and if it was made available for all, it loses the status of being "limited". I paid £40 for the DDE (most preorders for the standard edition were £27ish) and because I bought the better edition, I got a set of armor and 2 rifles (collector + incisor) along with the other bonuses.
Why should someone who buys the retail edition four months later get those bonuses? By all logic, they shouldn't. People who bought the Collector's Edition got a nice case, an art book, a mini comic... Those who bought the DDE have two PDFs and a listing on Steam/somewhere else that says "Mass Effect 2", with nothing physical to show for it. The addition of the Incisor Rifle, IMHO, was to help make up the difference between the CE and DDE. As the 360 doesn't get a DDE, it should be exempt from the rifle.

All the anger could be avoided by not giving out in game region/platform specfic promotions. Heck, don't give it to retail stores and companies for promotions in general. A game shouldn't remain incomplete because gamestop wants to piece of the game only for it's consumers, or Dr Pepper wants some for it's consumers. Gimmicky items like action figures, posters etc are one thing. Digital parts of a game that should be apart of the game anyway are another thing entirely.

[B10Reaper]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

B10Reaper wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Oh, God forbid I get an extra assault rifle (that I replaced) and some MP3s to make up for the lack of any physical goods when I bought ME2. That's totally out of order, isn't it? How dare EA/BioWare give me something to make up for things I don't get!

Had you gotten the collectors edition, you would have gotten "physical goods", I have no idea what the hell you are talking about otherwise, nobody got anything physical, other than the game, unless they got the collectors edition.

And that's what I'm talking about. DDE was the same price as the CE, and the Incisor/Soundtrack (IMHO) were added to make the deal seem better.

So wait, you had a choice between the same price for different things, and you're whining that you chose the one that didn't come with the crap you wanted? are you kidding?

[Ackillez]

The problem is that pirates don't need to grind for promo codes- they just get it cracked. Something is wrong when the product paying customers receive is inferior to what you can obtain by pirating the game. It's not a great motivation for making the purchase.

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Selvec_Darkon wrote..

All the anger could be avoided by
not giving out in game region/platform specfic promotions. Heck, don't
give it to retail stores and companies for promotions in general. A
game shouldn't remain incomplete because gamestop wants to piece of the
game only for it's consumers, or Dr Pepper wants some for it's
consumers. Gimmicky items like action figures, posters etc are one
thing. Digital parts of a game that should be apart of the game anyway
are another thing entirely.

Completely agree.

Modifié par Ackillez, 09 février 2010 - 01:36 .

[Loerwyn]

B10Reaper wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

B10Reaper wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...
Oh, God forbid I get an extra assault rifle (that I replaced) and some MP3s to make up for the lack of any physical goods when I bought ME2. That's totally out of order, isn't it? How dare EA/BioWare give me something to make up for things I don't get!

Had you gotten the collectors edition, you would have gotten "physical goods", I have no idea what the hell you are talking about otherwise, nobody got anything physical, other than the game, unless they got the collectors edition.

And that's what I'm talking about. DDE was the same price as the CE, and the Incisor/Soundtrack (IMHO) were added to make the deal seem better.

So wait, you had a choice between the same price for different things, and you're whining that you chose the one that didn't come with the crap you wanted? are you kidding?

What? I was being sarcastic.
I knew exactly what I was getting when I prepurchased my copy of Mass Effect 2 DDE, and I was stating that the Incisor Rifle/Soundtrack were added to the DDE to make up for the lack of physical items.
You need to turn your sarcasm detector on, or maybe even replace it for a better model.

[B10Reaper]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

B10Reaper wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

B10Reaper wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...
Oh, God forbid I get an extra assault rifle (that I replaced) and some MP3s to make up for the lack of any physical goods when I bought ME2. That's totally out of order, isn't it? How dare EA/BioWare give me something to make up for things I don't get!

Had you gotten the collectors edition, you would have gotten "physical goods", I have no idea what the hell you are talking about otherwise, nobody got anything physical, other than the game, unless they got the collectors edition.

And that's what I'm talking about. DDE was the same price as the CE, and the Incisor/Soundtrack (IMHO) were added to make the deal seem better.

So wait, you had a choice between the same price for different things, and you're whining that you chose the one that didn't come with the crap you wanted? are you kidding?

What? I was being sarcastic.
I knew exactly what I was getting when I prepurchased my copy of Mass Effect 2 DDE, and I was stating that the Incisor Rifle/Soundtrack were added to the DDE to make up for the lack of physical items.
You need to turn your sarcasm detector on, or maybe even replace it for a better model.

Brosef, nothing you said would be taken by sarcasm by anyone. There were no visible logical fallacies, no "and it's DEFINITLY not..." sort of phrases, nothing to indicate it was sarcasm. There is no tone of voice on the internet, you need to use your words.

[Shard of Truth]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

We got that content when it was limited and if it was made available for all, it loses the status of being "limited". I paid £40 for the DDE (most preorders for the standard edition were £27ish) and because I bought the better edition, I got a set of armor and 2 rifles (collector + incisor) along with the other bonuses.

But you didn't got all bonuses as well, because the Terminus Armor and the Blackstorm Projector weren't included in this package.
Wouldn't it be nice if Bioware presented alternative ways to get such items instead of buying overpriced codes from ebay?

I don't see the advantage of limited items for a single-player game.