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[TJSolo]

DarthCaine wrote...

I've just started playing ME1 again and it seems so clunky in comparison to ME2
IMO ME2 is BioWare's best game yet

You keep pasting that around.
I have both and have started a new ME1 file do change some choices. Being the older game I understand that it is not as technically strong as the version meant to upstage it but ME1 is more fun for me and feels less linear.

[voteDC]

In all honesty I thought the combat is Mass Effect 1 was smoother, simply because I had to actually move to get some enemies instead of hiding behind a box for most of the fight.

[Borschtbeet]

Combat in Mass Effect 2 is much better. Enemies react differently depending on where you shoot them, better weapons, more enemy variety, larger variety of abilities, better enemy AI, I could go on.



Mass Effect 1's overall storyline is better but in terms of gameplay I thought Mass Effect 2 was a huge improvement.

[voteDC]

The reactions depending on where you shot someone was nice but as I said in Mass Effect 2 you could win a fight by hiding behind the first box you see (which I had to on Insanity) and to be honest I didn't notice this better AI, as all they did was hide behind cover until I could whittle them down with powers and then yank them out with Pull.

[Sirsmirkalot]

Mass Effect 2 is a great game but Mass Effect 1 is a gem, albeit a flawed one.

--> Mass Effect 1 for me.

Modifié par Sirsmirkalot, 09 février 2010 - 01:39 .

[kraze07]

Mass Effect 1 imo. They improved on the combat and inventory in ME2, but I can't say I like what they did with everything else.

[AngryFrozenWater]

I am not sure which is the better one. I like both.

I liked the story of ME1. I was intrigued about what was going on. Piece by piece the story unfolded. The more you afvanced in the story, the more was revealed. ME2 didn't do that for me. In the final part of the story I had to giggle a bit and think of Zappa's Monster Movies. It conquered the world. And there is always a girl who trips over a little ice cone. .

The best part of ME2 is Tali (no I didn't have her as a LI). She fitted what I was expecting from her and I really like the missions she was involved it. The second time I played ME2 I saved here for last.

I was disappointed by Garrus. He became something he shouldn't be. At least in my game. Can't say more than that, because of spoilers.

Wrex was a total disappointment. He could not take his fat behind from that throne. They might as well not have him included at all. Terrible.

Ashly acted in ME2 as I was expecting from her. Incredibly short, but well done. Kaidan alays died on me so I have no idea how he is in ME2.

Liara was awfull in ME2. Even with the knowledge about her role in the time between ME1 and ME2 she made a bad appearance. Her mission was childish and her character didn't fit her at all., I wished I could drop her as a LI, because in my point of view (it seems I am in the minority) I cannot trust her.

It seems that a lot of people don't like the way the ME1 LI interests are handled in ME2 and I am one of them. Why include them at all if they don't play a role in Shepards live. What a nonsense.

Legion was great! I really loved that character. Too bad you had him
late in the game. I always knew that the geth couldn't be all bad. I
even created a thread about that on the old boards. He exceeded my
expectations. I am a bit puzzled now. Erm. Are there female geth?

I was surprised by Miranda in the end game. I didn't trust her before that. In my second playthrough I will give her some more attention. She is handy to have around during fights and she was part of a lot of missions.

I think Jacob was created to make you ease up a little. His background and the way he acted should be familiar. But I think the character was a bit shallow. Still, I liked him enough to accompany me on most missions.

I planned to do more with Tali and Garrus, but it turned out that I rather worked with biotics. Whenver there was something to do with geth or other androids she was part of the away team.

Samara was a bit over the top, but I liked that character anyway. She was over the top paragon that made me question her motives and actions.

Thane wasn't that interesting to me, although his background story wasn't bad. He felt like a good introduction to the drell. Just as Tali was a good introduction to quarians in ME1. I am not interested in what happens to him after ME2. His story allows that anyway.

Grunt is a shallow character. I could do without him. I included him just to do his missions. After that he stayed on the Normandy.

I wish there was some looting in ME2 and customization of crew member armor. In ME1 I was building up my team more direct than do just a loyalty mission. Hunting for armor, bio-amps, omni tools and weapons was part of that. In ME2 everyone can use most of what you find. That looks like it solves the problem of finding the rare items, but that could also be solved by getting rid of the random number generator which caused them to be incredibly hard to find. In ME2 I have no options whatsover to select armor for the crew. The naming of the items in ME1 was awfull, but at least I could view there stats or use the numbering in the name of the items to get a rough idea what items were better. In ME2 I keep forgetting what weapon is the better one, until I use them.

I like the N7 armor in ME2 and the way it can be customized and recolored. Very cool.

I don't like the heat clips. I don't have a problem with using them (I arely ran out and if I did it was my own fault). But it doesn't make sense when they were not required in ME1. BW should really do something about consitency in their games. If something does not work in their eyes then don't ommit it or change it radically, but try to improve it instead.

I don't like the new stats system. In ME1 I felt that I was becoming better during the game. Because the stats are now handled differently and because of the scaling I don't have the idea that I am getting better or more effective during the game. I can clear a location just as fast in the begiining of the game than in the end. In the old systems there were more diverse traits I could use and steer the character development. In the end of ME1 I felt like everything was going smooth, because I "worked" for it. Now everything is smooth no matter what level you are.

The missions are much better than in ME1. BW really tried to make them feel different and add little stories to them. And they also made them look more unique.

I am a bit puzzled what exactly triggers the main ME2 missions, though. There seems to be a point of no return and I can't figure out when it happens. In my very first game it happened way too soon. I wasn't even ready with doing all the loyalty missions. So I abandoned that character and started a new game. This time the point of no return kcked it when I did most of the side missions and all loyalty missions. I still wonder what made the difference. My current character (imported from ME1 too)  started with a lot of extras (probably some achievement kicked in). I started at level 5 (just as the other one) and I achieved level 30 after doing the loyalty missions and I have done just a handful of side missions. Again I am puzzled by that. I think I am going to hop through the Omega 4 relay and hope that will trigger the end game sooner.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 09 février 2010 - 01:59 .

[SithLordExarKun]

ME1 for overall story, ME2 for gameplay, cinematics and character development.



But why ask which one is better? ME1 + ME2 = one game!

[Carmarkcaine]

Lil Kis wrote...

well which and why? I hope people pick part 2 cuz I have high hopes for it. I bought the collector's edition but haven't played it yet cuz I got other games to play before I play it like Dragon Age, Uncharted 2, Assassin's Creed 2, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, than last Mass effect 2.

ME1 without a doubt. Unless you are into consol games, than you should take ME2

[LivelyLaughter]

Personally, I absolutely love both ME1 and ME2, the series is the best thing I have ever played! I love how it's more of an interactive movie than a game!



I truly hope Bioware creates more futuristic RPG's similar to the Mass Effect trilogy! :-)

[mjs0066]

I'd say that the overall story is better in ME1, at least it feels more epic.  That being said, I feel like the story from ME2, being so focused on the characters and setup, could (if bioware does it right), make the story in ME3 be much more meaningful for having characters that are so well fleshed out from ME2.

Other than that, outside of a few irritating things such as a lack of variety in armor customization, lack of ability to toggle helmet off and on, and planet scanning, just about everything else is better in ME2.

[obie191970]

Love them both. Went back and replayed ME1 after ME2 to import a different character and loved it just as I did the first 3 times I played through it. They both have their pros and cons that are discussed ad nauseum around here, but taken as a series, I find it tough to find something else that stacks up to them.

[Borschtbeet]

Carmarkcaine wrote...

Lil Kis wrote...

well which and why? I hope people pick part 2 cuz I have high hopes for it. I bought the collector's edition but haven't played it yet cuz I got other games to play before I play it like Dragon Age, Uncharted 2, Assassin's Creed 2, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, than last Mass effect 2.

ME1 without a doubt. Unless you are into consol games, than you should take ME2

You do know that Mass Effect 1 was originally released for the Xbox360 and wasn't released for the PC until several months later, don't you?

[newcomplex]

They both have their flaws and strengths, though overall, ME2 is certainly a better designed game with better production values (and a better budget ). ME1 however, does, despite its flaws, have several amazing things that ME2 fails to capture.

Booban wrote...
EDIT: Actually
thats wrong, the loyalty missions make it pretty deep. But its not
engaging because they are independent of each other. They do not flow
with the plot. And there are just too many for me to care about all of
them.

Thats a really good point actually.    I was gonna go rant about how your first point was completely unvalid, but I really like the point your making here.   

Modifié par newcomplex, 09 février 2010 - 11:49 .

[SithLordExarKun]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

ME1, for a myriad of reasons.

 

[Mezinger]

ME1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By far and away! IMO.... there's a poll floating around somewhere last time I looked at it, it was a 37/63 split in favour of ME2.

[OverlordWarwick]

Fhaileas wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

The majority says ME2

The voice of the majority is no proof of justice.

Well in Law, the vote of majority amongst your peers kinda is justice lol...

[Kalfear]

Lil Kis wrote...

well which and why? I hope people pick part 2 cuz I have high hopes for it. I bought the collector's edition but haven't played it yet cuz I got other games to play before I play it like Dragon Age, Uncharted 2, Assassin's Creed 2, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, than last Mass effect 2.

I was going to say I enjoyed ME1 more and replayed it 10 times compared to ME2 one play through but you know what.

I say that and then some guy from the pro side counters me like hes countered 20 others in the last day.

If your seriously looking for feedback, look at all the threads created (positive 30%, negative 70%) read the whys and whose saying it (IE: Identify repeat posters like myself (or Darth Cain who will argue with 30-40 different people and then say hes the majority) so you not taking each post as someone new) and come to your own conclussion.

ME2 isnt terrible but for RPG fans, ME1 is better. Thats my opinion but you be the judge.

Modifié par Kalfear, 10 février 2010 - 06:55 .

[Miths]

Mass Effect 1 was great until ME2 came along. Then it was utterly and completely left in the dust in pretty much all areas - combat, locations, graphics (including architectural design, as well as just an improved graphics engine in general), mission variety, interface (including getting rid of the cumbersome inventory system), hell, arguably even characters and dialogue (the main strengths of the first game).



Although going by these forums there are obviously many who feel quite different.

[SithLordExarKun]

Kalfear wrote...



ME2 isnt terrible but for RPG fans, ME1 is better. Thats my opinion but you be the judge.

I honestly think this is a rationale conclusion.

For me i personally prefer ME2 with ME1 coming right behind, i am after all not hardcore RPG fan but rather a very "versatile" gamer that judges games by their gameplay and quality.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 10 février 2010 - 08:39 .