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Give Subject Zero Hair in Mass Effect 3.


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no.


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mass_zotz wrote...

That would be stupid because than the character could into a dull looking character. I think she looks unique that way. This what makes her little different from everyone else. Not everyone in life looks the way you think he/she should.


This

God forbid she stand out

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Jack Anvil wrote...

Does anyone else support this? If so, back me up here. 

If she stays Renegade and makes a cameo in the second game, I'm fine with classic Subject Zero - the same way you find her on Purgatory. But if she's been romanced by a Paragon and opened up emotionally, I think she should start emulating a functional person, at least aesthetically. Plus, she'd be hella prettier.

Thoughts?


I think Jack should change.  If she is romanced by a paragon - she should give up her obession with her past and move forward.  Or at the very least, let us influence how she develops as a character in ME3.

Overall, I'd love more influence in how character's develop.  This time we got to do loyalty missions - which gave more dimension to the characters.  I'd love to see more of that - characters changing because of decisions you make.  Not just big ones either. 
They go everywhere with you...I'd love to see more of what you do affecting your party mates.
Why not let them visit each other and gossip about the mission and/or each other?
Instead of always having to find them - how about have them seek you out to talk about a problem. 

I'm looking forward to Jack and every other character developing more in ME3.  But yes, I agree with you - Jack needs to be affected by Shepard. I wish she'd lose the "potty" mouth. 
They had a stunning romance in ME2 - and I think Jack is the most misunderstood character.
Never thought I'd be saying this, but she is definately one of my favorite characters.

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Rhanne wrote...

no.


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I am doing my best to ensure that Jack is well and truly dead long before Mass Effect 3.

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Jack Anvil wrote...

Does anyone else support this? If so, back me up here. 

If she stays Renegade and makes a cameo in the second game, I'm fine with classic Subject Zero - the same way you find her on Purgatory. But if she's been romanced by a Paragon and opened up emotionally, I think she should start emulating a functional person, at least aesthetically. Plus, she'd be hella prettier.

Thoughts?

So a person has to have hair to have feelings? I honestly do not even understand what your trying to say.

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Nastrod wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

Does anyone else support this? If so, back me up here. 

If she stays Renegade and makes a cameo in the second game, I'm fine with classic Subject Zero - the same way you find her on Purgatory. But if she's been romanced by a Paragon and opened up emotionally, I think she should start emulating a functional person, at least aesthetically. Plus, she'd be hella prettier.

Thoughts?

So a person has to have hair to have feelings? I honestly do not even understand what your trying to say.


Clearly it's that good people have longer hair, and evil people have shorter hair... also bald chicks are ugly? I think... :blink:

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This is the hairstyle i thought she'd look good with.

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Jack (subject Zero) is inspired by the character "Jack" from Pitch Black and Chronicles of Riddick. In Pitch Black. Jack gives herself that name and shaves her head to look like a male and be a killer like Riddick. In Chronicles of Riddick, she gets sent to an "inescapable" prison after having a further messed-up childhood and murdering people herself. In both movies, she has an melodramatically "badass" persona, swearing and talking crudely when it seems out of place because she's trying to look tough. From what I know, Bioware has never officially acknowledged the connection, but come on: it's pretty obvious where they got their inspiration.



That said, I think ME Jack has a shaved head for the same reason the Pitch Black character has a shaved head: both as a personality trait and a tribute to the original character.

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I'll definitely give this thread my support!

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No, do not.

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lavosslayer wrote...

I think her look currently is perfectly fine. It defines her as a character and changing it would be completely against what the character herself stands for. Get over your need for supermodel fan service characters and realize how intricately beautiful Jack is as a character both internally and externally...


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Mass Effect has enough bald females with all the Asari and half the femshep hairstyles. We don't need more, and honestly Jack looks pretty bad most of the time. Her face looks weird, in a Mirandaish way, and her tattoos look low quality (graphics wise.)

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this thread is full of shallow mother****ers.

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Subject Zero with hair:



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This topic is ridiculous. Im seeing suggestions like change the haircut, remove the tattoos and change other things as well.
This is what defines Jack's character, essentially what you guys really want is another character that that is nothing like Jack.

Modifié par CRISIS1717, 08 février 2010 - 10:27 .


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I would support hair and or clothes, just because she has a really hard attitude doesnt mean she cant be pretty with hair while shes being a badass.

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TLK Spires wrote...

this thread is full of shallow mother****ers.


This and in response to the OP

NO


Jack should keep the haircut she has already!

To paraphrase Aria...

"DON'T FRACK WITH JACK!"


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I'm only proposing that Paragon-romanced Jack should change--and not completely. Her baldness represents the cult she had previously been a part of (but is now a member of Shepard's crew) and her abrasive-ness is an emotional "wall" she puts up (which is no longer needed if she is Paragon-romanced.)
I love her tattoos--her personality is etched on her skin, regardless of any superficial changes she makes. However, I think a PARAGON Jack--capitalized, for those who have trouble reading--who has undergone significant character growth, should grow her hair out and put on some more clothing, as opposed to that belt bra. Whats more, she should soften up a bit, at least to Shepard. I love her hostility--when it is directed at others.

Modifié par Jack Anvil, 08 février 2010 - 02:10 .


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Jack Anvil wrote...

I'm only proposing that Paragon-romanced Jack should change--and not completely. Her baldness represents the cult she had previously been a part of (but is now a member of Shepard's crew) and her abrasive-ness is an emotional "wall" she puts up (which is no longer needed if she is Paragon-romanced.)
I love her tattoos--her personality is etched on her skin, regardless of any superficial changes she makes. However, I think a PARAGON Jack--capitalized, for those who have trouble reading--who has undergone significant character growth, should grow her hair out and put on some more clothing, as opposed to that belt bra. Whats more, she should soften up a bit, at least to Shepard. I love her hostility--when it is directed at others.

I agree because everyone knows and even science has proven nice and kind hearted people all have very long hair meanwhile it has also been proven most short haired people do crime and kick puppies  /sarcasm off now


Seriously what does hair have anything at all to do with the way she acts?

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Nastrod wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

I'm only proposing that Paragon-romanced Jack should change--and not completely. Her baldness represents the cult she had previously been a part of (but is now a member of Shepard's crew) and her abrasive-ness is an emotional "wall" she puts up (which is no longer needed if she is Paragon-romanced.)
I love her tattoos--her personality is etched on her skin, regardless of any superficial changes she makes. However, I think a PARAGON Jack--capitalized, for those who have trouble reading--who has undergone significant character growth, should grow her hair out and put on some more clothing, as opposed to that belt bra. Whats more, she should soften up a bit, at least to Shepard. I love her hostility--when it is directed at others.

I agree because everyone knows and even science has proven nice and kind hearted people all have very long hair meanwhile it has also been proven most short haired people do crime and kick puppies  /sarcasm off now


Seriously what does hair have anything at all to do with the way she acts?


Whew. Thanks for turning off the sarcasm. You were laying it on pretty thick. /facetious-ness off

Her baldness, as I said above, represents the cult she was a part of. It's clear that people have trouble reading exactly what is typed out, so I'll break it down:

Subject Zero + Baldness = Symbol of Cult

Subject Zero + Hair = Symbol of Growth, pun not intended.

For Subject Zero to have paragon growth, she would have to let go of her anger, the majority of which stems from her past. Voila.

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Jack Anvil wrote...

I think a PARAGON Jack--capitalized, for those who have trouble reading--who has undergone significant character growth, should grow her hair out and put on some more clothing, as opposed to that belt bra. Whats more, she should soften up a bit, at least to Shepard. I love her hostility--when it is directed at others.

I don't see any good reason for it when even the 'default' Shepard out of all people is pretty much bald and it doesn't prevent him from being a Paragon if he so chooses.

Frankly, the whole idea that "she got romanced by paragon so she should change" is rather disgusting -- it feels like wanting to see Jack change as if she got somehow housebroken; and isn't being a paragon about seeing past the surface and even more importantly, accepting people the way they are? Truly "paragon" Shepard wouldn't be hoping for Jack to change, he'd love her the way she is and precisely because of what she's like. Tough abrasive exterior and all.

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tmp7704 wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

I think a PARAGON Jack--capitalized, for those who have trouble reading--who has undergone significant character growth, should grow her hair out and put on some more clothing, as opposed to that belt bra. Whats more, she should soften up a bit, at least to Shepard. I love her hostility--when it is directed at others.

I don't see any good reason for it when even the 'default' Shepard out of all people is pretty much bald and it doesn't prevent him from being a Paragon if he so chooses.

Frankly, the whole idea that "she got romanced by paragon so she should change" is rather disgusting -- it feels like wanting to see Jack change as if she got somehow housebroken; and isn't being a paragon about seeing past the surface and even more importantly, accepting people the way they are? Truly "paragon" Shepard wouldn't be hoping for Jack to change, he'd love her the way she is and precisely because of what she's like. Tough abrasive exterior and all.


Being a Paragon isn't about acceptance; it's about doing the right thing. And changing a psychopath who wants to change isn't such a horrible notion, is it?

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You guys say giving her hair will change who she is, I say her crying at the end with paragon romance is already so far from how I perceived her. To me, she'll always be a ****, angry, confused, maybe even scared, but mostly crazy.... and bald... with tats. Seeing her cry and being "intimate" almost scares me more than she already does. Giving her hair would be just.... unthinkable.

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I do not support this. No, no, no! She needs to keep the shaved head!