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Give Subject Zero Hair in Mass Effect 3.


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Here's some more Jack concept art:

http://i47.tinypic.com/242g3tl.jpg

Number 3 all the way if you ask me, makes her really hot.

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Some clothes would work wonders.....how many people walk around nearly naked in space?

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Jack is my favorite new character.. Loved her story and she has the best fem face to date.. She'll never bump Tali out of #1 slot but shes a close second

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Jack Anvil wrote...

Being a Paragon isn't about acceptance; it's about doing the right thing.

Very self-righteous stance. Everyone does things they consider to be right, all that changes is how they determine what's "right". With this definition even the 100% Renegades are Paragons because they too believe they're making the right calls.

And changing a psychopath who wants to change isn't such a horrible notion, is it?

If someone indeed wants to change themselves there's no real need for active influence of another person. And if that another person decides to do it on their own, unasked, because they think it's "the right thing" ... then yeah, it's pretty horrible.

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tmp7704 wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

Being a Paragon isn't about acceptance; it's about doing the right thing.

Very self-righteous stance. Everyone does things they consider to be right, all that changes is how they determine what's "right". With this definition even the 100% Renegades are Paragons because they too believe they're making the right calls.

And changing a psychopath who wants to change isn't such a horrible notion, is it?

If someone indeed wants to change themselves there's no real need for active influence of another person. And if that another person decides to do it on their own, unasked, because they think it's "the right thing" ... then yeah, it's pretty horrible.


I concede to defeat. But I still think a Paragon Subject Zero should have hair. Not a Renegade, but a Paragon. 

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Here is my opinion, if Jack should have hair, just because we romanced her.



Miranda should gain about 60 pounds just because once we romanced here, she realized she was just Miranda, she didn't have to be perfect. Dat ass takes up the whole screen.



Tali, she could get a little round, imagine her suit a meld between her suit and a Volus suit.



Just because we romanced a character, doesn't mean we control them. Hey Jack, we got this true love thing going, but BTW, I hate your bald head and your tats, change that mmmkay?

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Hell no! Jack is perfect the way she is.

Darnalak wrote...

Dude, she cried! how much more influence do you want?!


I know damn. She has the best romance dialogue and scene. It's very emotional and deep.

Modifié par Jackal904, 09 février 2010 - 02:21 .


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Kileyan wrote...

Here is my opinion, if Jack should have hair, just because we romanced her.

Miranda should gain about 60 pounds just because once we romanced here, she realized she was just Miranda, she didn't have to be perfect. Dat ass takes up the whole screen.

Tali, she could get a little round, imagine her suit a meld between her suit and a Volus suit.

Just because we romanced a character, doesn't mean we control them. Hey Jack, we got this true love thing going, but BTW, I hate your bald head and your tats, change that mmmkay?


Thank god things like that don't happen in real life. True love exists and conquers all, including ugliness, obesity, and abrasive-ness. People don't change in relationships, and start to emulate their partner, picking up colloquialisms and habits. Also, people don't part ways because the other refuses to change.
Thank god we live in such an idyllic world where we can be ourselves without fear of judgment.

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this thread is full of shallow mother****ers.



Yup yer right there, here's living proof!!!^^^^^^^^

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Jack Anvil wrote...

Nastrod wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

I'm only proposing that Paragon-romanced Jack should change--and not completely. Her baldness represents the cult she had previously been a part of (but is now a member of Shepard's crew) and her abrasive-ness is an emotional "wall" she puts up (which is no longer needed if she is Paragon-romanced.)
I love her tattoos--her personality is etched on her skin, regardless of any superficial changes she makes. However, I think a PARAGON Jack--capitalized, for those who have trouble reading--who has undergone significant character growth, should grow her hair out and put on some more clothing, as opposed to that belt bra. Whats more, she should soften up a bit, at least to Shepard. I love her hostility--when it is directed at others.

I agree because everyone knows and even science has proven nice and kind hearted people all have very long hair meanwhile it has also been proven most short haired people do crime and kick puppies  /sarcasm off now


Seriously what does hair have anything at all to do with the way she acts?


Whew. Thanks for turning off the sarcasm. You were laying it on pretty thick. /facetious-ness off

Her baldness, as I said above, represents the cult she was a part of. It's clear that people have trouble reading exactly what is typed out, so I'll break it down:

Subject Zero + Baldness = Symbol of Cult

Subject Zero + Hair = Symbol of Growth, pun not intended.

For Subject Zero to have paragon growth, she would have to let go of her anger, the majority of which stems from her past. Voila.




I don't suppose you've considered the fact, Maybe she does NOT want to forget?

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ohupthis wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

Nastrod wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

I'm only proposing that Paragon-romanced Jack should change--and not completely. Her baldness represents the cult she had previously been a part of (but is now a member of Shepard's crew) and her abrasive-ness is an emotional "wall" she puts up (which is no longer needed if she is Paragon-romanced.)
I love her tattoos--her personality is etched on her skin, regardless of any superficial changes she makes. However, I think a PARAGON Jack--capitalized, for those who have trouble reading--who has undergone significant character growth, should grow her hair out and put on some more clothing, as opposed to that belt bra. Whats more, she should soften up a bit, at least to Shepard. I love her hostility--when it is directed at others.

I agree because everyone knows and even science has proven nice and kind hearted people all have very long hair meanwhile it has also been proven most short haired people do crime and kick puppies  /sarcasm off now


Seriously what does hair have anything at all to do with the way she acts?


Whew. Thanks for turning off the sarcasm. You were laying it on pretty thick. /facetious-ness off

Her baldness, as I said above, represents the cult she was a part of. It's clear that people have trouble reading exactly what is typed out, so I'll break it down:

Subject Zero + Baldness = Symbol of Cult

Subject Zero + Hair = Symbol of Growth, pun not intended.

For Subject Zero to have paragon growth, she would have to let go of her anger, the majority of which stems from her past. Voila.




I don't suppose you've considered the fact, Maybe she does NOT want to forget?


I'm shallow, sure, but can any one of you tell me you aren't? Does one go up to someone in a bar based on their personality? "Wow, that girl has got a nice firm... personality on her." I don't think so.
Aesthetics are the catalyst for initial attraction, whether you children want to admit it or not. The world is a shallow place.
As for Subject Zero, she says she wants to forget the past, and refuses to end up like Aresh (the other survivor of the Teltin Facility.) Ergo, she changes. The gothic/punk/dark look are for people who cannot integrate into society properly.
You might say, "That's mean and untrue," but it really isn't. It isn't conformity to dress like someone who has a job. People who walk around dressed as though they are a clown, or undead, or both are seeking attention in the most obnoxious way possible, which is not something a well-adjusted, functional person does. If you need to express yourself, do it through your personality (which is Subject Zero's true trademark)--and if you can't, then I'm sorry, but you must be incredibly dull.

Modifié par Jack Anvil, 09 février 2010 - 05:09 .


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... hey or interchangeable wigs ;)

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Some people here must find really hard to conceive a person who moved on from a messed up past, but didn't need to drastically change his/her looks to express it.

Also, is laughable the association between shaved hair + tatoos and screwed up mind. It may be true in some cases, but not necessarily.

I think it's possible to pick Jack's core personality throughout the game, separating it from her traumatized life influences. She is a bold but sensitive woman, who had a ruthless life that compelled her to violence and intimidation, as only ways of survival. She is not a shy, prudish woman possesed by a demon that paragon Shepard was able to exorcise. So, I really don't see a reason for her to remove the nice tattoos or grow hair, besides pleasing gamers who want a second Miranda in the team.

And guys, don't you see Jack's looks is perfect and makes her the most beautiful female in the game? Hair is something that still seems very fake in Mass Effect (and every game out there). Chars like Kelly, Dr. Chakwas and even Miranda get a cartoonish feeling because of their hairs. And Jack has the best designed face of the game, from skull format to eyes or lips. Her beaty would be lessened by any kind of haircut.

And I love how she manages to keep so feminine, despite her forced masculinity and agressive appearance. It's a contrast that adds a lot of deph to the character.

PS: Sorry for any error or weird choice of words. I'll be glad to explain myself if necessary.

Modifié par Gabriel vas Quib-Quib, 09 février 2010 - 06:43 .


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Jack Anvil wrote...

I'm talking maybe number 05 or 07.

http://cghub.com/fil...23_realsize.jpg


I've seen this piece of concept art. I'm glad Jack looks the way she does in ME2 and not like one of the samples in this concept art. The cyber-gothic look she has in this concept is cliche and NOT cool.

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Keep her bald. I retract my original post.

I just completed my third playthrough, and I agree with everyone who disagreed with me.



Sorry for starting all of this trouble. God, I love Mass Effect 2.

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SlowFingers69 wrote...

Jack is my favorite new character.. Loved her story and she has the best fem face to date.. She'll never bump Tali out of #1 slot but shes a close second



Agreed... cept tali taking number one.... it's close, I'd have to see more depth of character in Tali and her face of course.... but those two are my fav and liara of course for femshepard..., but for my male shepard its subject zero and tali

who is her face model?   Or is this some new riveting technology that they didn't use for all of the other characters?  




Regardless even if it's a combo of both, amazing technology these days.... gaming has come a long way.

Anyway on topic... it makes sense too.. if you paragon romanced her, it would make sense for her to get over her emotional scarring and allow her hair to grow back in (whether it be long, short, or in between... still you know, let go of her past and look towards the future like she seems to in that paragon romance scene)... if you renegade or do nothing with her, it would make sense for her to remain the same.... unless she honestly likes it and she kept it for those reasons... then who cares, she has the most feminine facial features to make up for it.  Or another route would be to be able to let the gamers make that choice in their games..........

one way or another she's one of my fav characters in any RPG.... kinda grew up on me, I thought she may be after seeing some early teaser vids of the characters.... then I was like ahhh great, first Miranda's a b**** and now we have another one... Tali it is.... until I created a male shepard and broke down her barriers paragon style.... then it was like damn.... she's deep and probably has all of her love to give to shep, while the others seem to have other priorities (tali her fleet, miranda her sister and cerberus, liara hunting down the damn shadow broker for revenge instead of helping save the galaxy first).... Jack's like f*** it let's do this I'm stickin by u (once you get her loyalty and especially once you paragon romance her... and keep it that way)

Modifié par Ferocious7, 13 février 2010 - 10:24 .


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Don't.

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o thank the gods i thought I was to only one that was hopping for this, though the real question becomes what is her hair color, my guess is brownish-red. And I think she should have hair if u romance her, i don't know y but it makes sinces to me in an odd way.

Modifié par Krimson_Wolf, 03 juin 2010 - 03:06 .


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Her face is very beautiful - I bet she would be really good looking with hair. (someone could photoshop lol)

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Krimson_Wolf wrote...

o thank the gods i thought I was to only one that was hopping for this, though the real question becomes what is her hair color, my guess is brownish-red. And I think she should have hair if u romance her, i don't know y but it makes sinces to me in an odd way.


Congratulations on reviving an anceint thread.

And Jack does not need hair.

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While I'd like to put her in customizable light armor, I wouldn't want her to remove the tattoos. As far as the hair goes, I'm fine with the baldness but also with really short hair too.



I'm more concerned with her outfit though. Hopefully Shepard and Jack go buy her something to replace that prison jumpsuit.

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Krimson_Wolf wrote...
o thank the gods i thought I was to only one that was hopping for this, though the real question becomes what is her hair color, my guess is brownish-red. And I think she should have hair if u romance her, i don't know y but it makes sinces to me in an odd way.

Hmm, it sounds like you need to go with a simpler character LI instead.  Something tells me that giving Jack more hair would not help you any. 

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Jackal904 wrote...

Jack does not need hair.



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I'm not so sure about this. Jack has certainly pulled off the shaved hair look with that face of hers, I might even consider it a tragedy if her new hair would obsucre the pretty face.

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Ancient thread is ancient.

On-topic: Hell no! It's one thing to help her cope with her past and start moving in a positive direction but to expect someone to drastically change their looks to more closely follow popular conceptions of beauty just because she falls in love with Shepard is really creepy. Shaving your head and getting tattoos doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you. She's beautiful as she is.

Modifié par drunken pyromaniac, 03 juin 2010 - 04:44 .