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Jaymuse wrote...


I think it has more to do with the general acceptance that Star Trek has developed for the concept of human-alien relationships in fiction. 


Definitely possible.  Commander Riker was setting the stage for romancing monogendered alien species 20 years ago on TNG, lol

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There's adoption you know...

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1490:

Because Sonic was essentially a super-deformed-style cartoon kissing a realistic-anime-style human. Add to that the fact that humans didn't even exist in the original Sonic games. And add to that the fact that Sonic is not a complex character (he's basically just a mascot in terms of personality) while they portrayed that girl as one.

Really it wasn't so much the "inter-species" relations that was disturbing about that scene, but... perhaps vaguely pedo overtones.

But I guess that's getting off-topic.

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Morden: "Humans cant breed with Quarians or Turians. Wrong protiens. possibly dangerous, even. But possibility for 'offspring". Technicaly clone. Modified. Similar to Asari. Just need to cherry pick DNA traits from one, and replicate in other."

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WarmachineX0 wrote...

Seriously people, WTF, why are you even discussing this. Now I've head everything from romantice relationships with legion, now wanting to give birth to some abomination that will live in the Citidel's air ducts eating little children.
Some of you REAAALLLY scare me.


Eh this is an internet forum about a fictional game nothing wrong with hypothetical discussions about the ingame universe.

If you want the scientific explanation it has something to do with the sperm and egg having specific chemical makeup so that sperm can only penetrate the egg of the same species. 

Then again this is a fictional universe where we travel faster than the speed of light and an angry race of sapient machines are threatening to commit galactic genocide so I'm not sure how much science there is in the game.

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Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

1490:

Because Sonic was essentially a super-deformed-style cartoon kissing a realistic-anime-style human. Add to that the fact that humans didn't even exist in the original Sonic games. And add to that the fact that Sonic is not a complex character (he's basically just a mascot in terms of personality) while they portrayed that girl as one.

Really it wasn't so much the "inter-species" relations that was disturbing about that scene, but... perhaps vaguely pedo overtones.

But I guess that's getting off-topic.


Yeah, they've overcomplicated the Sonic games WAY too much, considering it started as a simple platformer.  The cartoon character romancing a realistic character does seem a lot more weird than ME 2 interspecies romances, now that you mention it.  LMAO at the pedophile connection!

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Big_Lunk wrote...

Morden: "Humans cant breed with Quarians or Turians. Wrong protiens. possibly dangerous, even. But possibility for 'offspring". Technicaly clone. Modified. Similar to Asari. Just need to cherry pick DNA traits from one, and replicate in other."

Actual quote, or your own assumption?

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While the idea invokes curiosity in me, I do understand that science basically laughs and says "b**** please!" at this idea. Also, many of the LIs (Even the human ones) don't seem like family-type folks.



Of course, this doesn't stop fangirls from wanting to have Garrus's kids because the man is apparently /that/ badass.

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Ackillez wrote...

Big_Lunk wrote...

Morden: "Humans cant breed with Quarians or Turians. Wrong protiens. possibly dangerous, even. But possibility for 'offspring". Technicaly clone. Modified. Similar to Asari. Just need to cherry pick DNA traits from one, and replicate in other."

Actual quote, or your own assumption?


Sounds like an assumption to me. You could clone one 'parent' and then replicate traits of the other, but it would require extreme genetic manipulation. For example, you could get the 'quarian' parent, clone it, then genetically alter it to have eyes of a similar colour to your Shepard, but they wouldn't, genetically, be your Shepard's eyes, just a quarian approximation. Nor could you clone the 'human' and alter the DNA to give it, for example, three quarian fingers or a turien exo-skeleton. That sorta thing is against not only Alliance regulations, but also Council law.

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Humans and the ME aliens are also more similar than dissimilar, depending on your standards. They're both sapient. They feel the same emotions. They both walk on two legs and use two arms, equipped with fingers and toes. They have two eyes, a nose and mouth (at least, the ones considered close enough to romance do!). They have similar familial and social relationships. They wear clothes. They drink alcohol. They have jobs and careers and hobbies. Personality-wise, my FemShep is far more compatible with Garrus than she ever was with Kaidan.

As for physically... Well, Mordin covered that quite thoroughly.


This covers my take on it as well. During the courtship phase of the FemShep/Garrus relationship this is also something which is emphasised. FemShep says she needs someone she can trust, Garrus says Shepard is the person he respects most in the galaxy. There is room for deep affection between the two, and that is enough for humans even when they have very different cultural backgrounds.

Concerning reproduction, I don't get the feeling that Shepard is the kind of person who aims at having a family and kids. Even after the galaxy is saved for the last time, I don't really see him/her settle down.

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Antikristine wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Humans and the ME aliens are also more similar than dissimilar, depending on your standards. They're both sapient. They feel the same emotions. They both walk on two legs and use two arms, equipped with fingers and toes. They have two eyes, a nose and mouth (at least, the ones considered close enough to romance do!). They have similar familial and social relationships. They wear clothes. They drink alcohol. They have jobs and careers and hobbies. Personality-wise, my FemShep is far more compatible with Garrus than she ever was with Kaidan.

As for physically... Well, Mordin covered that quite thoroughly.


This covers my take on it as well. During the courtship phase of the FemShep/Garrus relationship this is also something which is emphasised. FemShep says she needs someone she can trust, Garrus says Shepard is the person he respects most in the galaxy. There is room for deep affection between the two, and that is enough for humans even when they have very different cultural backgrounds.

Concerning reproduction, I don't get the feeling that Shepard is the kind of person who aims at having a family and kids. Even after the galaxy is saved for the last time, I don't really see him/her settle down.

Well, at least not with a family.  I can see Shepard taking a very long and well-deserved break from all the galactic madness, but Shepard is definitely not the white picket-fence type.
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What about Krogan-Rachni? Would be an awesome killing machine.



Anyway, anyone got a pic on that krogan.human?

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I can't believe so many people are seriously considering having interspecies pregnancies.



And then acting like it is no big deal if Bioware allowed that, that is a seriously huge retcon, no matter how you put it it stops being Science Fiction at that point.



Anyone with a brain should be able to rationalize "This isn't possible, no matter how many facts or physics you stretch".

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Doc Bacon wrote...

I know this must have been asked before, but other than the asari, is it possible for two different species to have a child? I.E. Turian and Human. Or has this not been explained?


They have to at least have the same number of Chromosomes right?

Some species can breed with each other-like dogs and wolves-but they have to be very closely related.

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Ahem. There's always adoption.

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Anyone with a brain should be able to rationalize "This isn't possible, no matter how many facts or physics you stretch".


Star Trek actually explained why this sort of thing is possible in that universe - one episode talks about how all the developed species have a common ancestor.

That said, in Mass Effect this shouldn't be possible. Someone on the first page brought up the excellent comparison of humans and chimpanzees - 99.5% shared DNA and interbreeding is not possible. Any multicellular organism from another planet is absolutely impossible to reproduce with - even the asari are still basically just producing more asari, not a genetic merging.

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No. No. No   A world of No.

Asari don't even use the "father's" DNA, they use it to randomize their own.  Turians and Quarians don't even have the same base amino acids we do. Our DNA is toxic to them, and theirs is to us.

Hanar, volus, elcor....? No.

The Reapers found a nifty way to reproduce with our genetic material if you really want to contribute your genetic material to an alien offspring.......

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No. I am all about talimance, but I'll pass on babies.

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1490 wrote...

Here's an interesting thought: the new Sonic the Hedgehog game included an interspecies romance between Sonic and a human female, and at one point in the game they kiss.  The game got totally torn apart over the scene, which many people thought of as cringeworthy.  Contrarily, I haven't seen any criticism of the interspecies relationships in ME 2 in any review I've seen so far, even though those involve sex as compared to Sonic's simple kiss.  Maybe has to do with ME 2 being M rated and Sonic being E rated, but I'm wondering if acceptance is building and we'll start to see this more in future games?


So having a relationship with a blue hedgehog is more acceptable to you than a blue, hairless (wtf is that crap on the back of their head?)  human... Image IPB

Anything can happen in the game. Like eezo... I don't see it on the PToE. Some braniac scientist would probably laugh at the idea of that, too.

Going all "CAN'T HAPPEN!*sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiff*>Some sciency crap no one cares about<*" isn't much of an argument in a game.

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Toxik King wrote...

1490 wrote...

Here's an interesting thought: the new Sonic the Hedgehog game included an interspecies romance between Sonic and a human female, and at one point in the game they kiss.  The game got totally torn apart over the scene, which many people thought of as cringeworthy.  Contrarily, I haven't seen any criticism of the interspecies relationships in ME 2 in any review I've seen so far, even though those involve sex as compared to Sonic's simple kiss.  Maybe has to do with ME 2 being M rated and Sonic being E rated, but I'm wondering if acceptance is building and we'll start to see this more in future games?


So having a relationship with a blue hedgehog is more acceptable to you than a blue, hairless (wtf is that crap on the back of their head?)  human... Image IPB

Anything can happen in the game. Like eezo... I don't see it on the PToE. Some braniac scientist would probably laugh at the idea of that, too.

Going all "CAN'T HAPPEN!*sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiff*>Some sciency crap no one cares about<*" isn't much of an argument in a game.


In a sci-fi game that at least tries to make scientific sense it is...

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Exactly, in a game that tries to make a universe that is science fiction (albeit it slips more into Science Fantasy really) it makes sense to say it is impossible.



Otherwise it would be BS retconning to please the irrational fans.

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Llandaryn wrote...

Ackillez wrote...

Big_Lunk wrote...

Morden: "Humans cant breed with Quarians or Turians. Wrong protiens. possibly dangerous, even. But possibility for 'offspring". Technicaly clone. Modified. Similar to Asari. Just need to cherry pick DNA traits from one, and replicate in other."

Actual quote, or your own assumption?


Sounds like an assumption to me. You could clone one 'parent' and then replicate traits of the other, but it would require extreme genetic manipulation. For example, you could get the 'quarian' parent, clone it, then genetically alter it to have eyes of a similar colour to your Shepard, but they wouldn't, genetically, be your Shepard's eyes, just a quarian approximation. Nor could you clone the 'human' and alter the DNA to give it, for example, three quarian fingers or a turien exo-skeleton. That sorta thing is against not only Alliance regulations, but also Council law.


right now, either don't apply to you since you are outside the turf of both. however your suppler right now (Cerberus) might have a problem with that given that it flys in the face of their motto.

but then again, TIM has alway had an intrest in the quarians..

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Alien love is a stape of Sci Fi. Do we forget Captain Kirk and his many run ins with alien females?

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I hacked so many terminals/wall safes in ME2 that I can bribe Cerberus into creating me an alien/human baby. Or then I can charm them with my 100% paragon ;D

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Probably not, though sometimes I wonder whether Thanes wife was a Drell or not.



Tali having Shep JR. is out of the question, as their amino acids don't even sync up.