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[Llandaryn]

Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...

Anyone with a brain should be able to rationalize "This isn't possible, no matter how many facts or physics you stretch".

Biology. Not physics.

Mummolus wrote...

Star Trek actually explained why this
sort of thing is possible in that universe - one episode talks about
how all the developed species have a common ancestor.

The progenitors. I firmly believe that ME universe should stay away from this.

Lord Atlia wrote...

Traditional pregnancy, no. Crazy mad
scientist making a turian and krogan hybrid, possibly. People are quick
to bring up science but science is not always ME's friend as biotics
are more out there than a genetically created hybrid, I mean didn't Dr.
Moreau create hybrids like back in there 19th century?

Yes, but Dr Moreau was also a fictional character. And he was splicing together humans with animals that already share quite a lot of genetic traits. You have more genetically in common with a squid than you do with a Quarian or Turian. Even if sentient beings had a progenitor race, the genetic drift since life was seeded on the respective worlds has been phenomenal. They don't even use the same amino acids in their genetic structure. Protein synthesis in a Human/Quarian or Human/Turian would be impossible. It's like running your diesel engine on petrol. You might as well just lob a molotov cocktail at it.

Meta-Scourge wrote...

If the salarians can make a entire species less fertile than what they used to be, odds are the greatest scientific minds can make a quarian and human have a offspring, whether or not it'd be fertile is another story.

Shirley, you jest. It's incredibly easy to make something genetically infertile.
Just introduce a foreign body (perhaps a virus, perhaps nano-tech)  that interrupts the meiotic process, or prevents the gametes from becoming viable. Or maybe introduce something that forces the female's body to react aggressively to a fertilised egg.

How you're going to get around the problem of RNA transcription in a Human/Quarian hybrid is just beyond me. They don't even have the same base pair sequences. Your t-RNA is going to read "GGGACAGCCA" and then think "Oh ****, what do I do now?!?"

Though
I can definitely see a turian-human hybrid as a high improbability we
are atalking about Bioware here, they could make it where the asari
suddenly had male offspring and we wouldn't question it. And as a Tali
fan after seeing the bad things that have happened to her then the good
of hooking up with your shep, whould it not be cruel not to let her
have a kid if she wanted one? The idea is very intriguing in that would
it have a much better immune system?[/b]

Right. No bias or anything. I mean, if we're talking about Turian/Human hybrids, then it's unlikely. But being able to give yourself a pat on the back for knocking Tali up -- woo yeah!

Modifié par Llandaryn, 08 février 2010 - 09:09 .

[thenakman]

The_mango55 wrote...

GHM508 wrote...

Just because it's assumed that it isn't possible does not mean that it's true. Bioware can do anything they want to do with their story, and I feel it would be good closure if you're in love with a character in ME3 and have a child. No where do they specifically say, that I can recall, that it is NOT possible to reproduce with another race other than Asari, except for Turians.

With that said, I really doubt that they will have Shepard have a child in the thrid game, the things we know do point towards it not being possible. Still I just figured I'd point out what I said above.

Actually it isn't possible with the other races.

Quarians have the same amino acid type as Turians, reproduction would be impossible
Salarians are amphibians that lay eggs
Krogans are infertile
Drell are basically reptiles
Vorcha have a different cell structure
Geth are robots
Batarians have 4 eyes, would your kids have 3 eyes?
Hanar are big stupid jellyfish
Rachni are bugs, and lay eggs via a queen
Keepers are also bugs, and non-sentient
Volus breathe and amonium atmosphere, couldn't be compatable
Elcor... Maybe there's a chance with elcor

I think I've covered all of them.

Omg could you picture Elcor Sex.

Elcor Female-With false enthusiam: Yes right there, you are so good.

Elcor Male- Determined: Take it b!tch.

Modifié par thenakman, 08 février 2010 - 09:18 .

[Gill Kaiser]

Palathas wrote...

Doc Bacon wrote...

I know this must have been asked before, but other than the asari, is it possible for two different species to have a child? I.E. Turian and Human. Or has this not been explained?

Not sure about Turians but Quarians have mammary glands so there's a chance that they are mammalian and may inter-breed.

Yeah, because being a mammal is all that's required for interbreeding. You could totally mate with a blue whale, right?

[Meta-Scourge]

Ok it's apparent this is a mixed bag of opinions. Let's just leave this up to Bioware, if they see it's wanted enough or deem it a unique possibility worth doing through future science then so be it

[gamergamergamer]

its biologically not possible. unless of course bioware takes specific actions to get around it ie: the asari

[Edje Edgar]

Yeah, because being a mammal is all that's required for interbreeding. You could totally mate with a blue whale, right?

I would certainly hope so!

[Kyero]

If perfectly fine with no interspecies child making, you don't have to have children with someone to truely love someone, just adopt or do the thing wofes with stterial husbands do.

[Splinter Cell 108]

I hope not. I'd hate to see a human/turian hybrid. If it does occur, then the child should be Human or Turian but not a little of both. I'm sure everyone knows I'm speaking about Garrus with this. I hope the same goes for Tali. No hybrids.

[Kyero]

Besides, no children = more sex time

[Grumpy-Mcfart]

Monstruo696 wrote...

Promethean 47 wrote...

This thread is full of sadness.

Sadness because they don't have a basic science education or sadness because they want to have some sort of freakish baby with a fictional alien?

in the words of Legion: Yes

[DBHolm]

It is theoretically possible for an alien species to be compatible with humans' reproductive system.



The likelihood of it happening is so preposterous that it can be dismissed outright, however.

[Ari Kagura]

I don't know about you but since this is a sci-fi, then if there's the technology and it's "eff-able" by human standards, then why not? Who knows what the kid would look like ... sure some combinations would look really strange but if the kid turns out to be healthy, then who knows what might come around. Sure it might not look right to some morals, but the world of science fiction tends to open up all kinds of weirdness. Of course, such actions have to be justified in some way so it makes sense.

[Rykn]

Let's think all the way back to Avatar. They mixed human DNA with the natives DNA and got a body out of it. It looked mainly the same except it had the same number of fingers and toes as a human opposed the the original four. They probably used less human DNA opposed to the natives. I also remember in the codex in ME 1 that it's illegal to mess with human genetic code or something because they wish to keep humans pure (something along those lines).

Lets face it Moridin is a billion times more intelligent than those squints in Avatar so if your rich as sh*t it's possible I guess. mix your DNA and Tali's DNA then get a child. but it would be tank bred and even then it would probably be the one that everyone makes fun of because it's "different"

Modifié par Rykn, 08 février 2010 - 10:08 .

[Kyero]

its called Science people, look it up. It could happen but like someone said it would prob cause a lot of money and time to come up with a way.



if anyone is capable with humans besides asari it would be quarians.

[Kyero]

Rykn wrote...

Let's think all the way back to Avatar. They mixed human DNA with the natives DNA and got a body out of it. It looked mainly the same except it had the same number of fingers and toes as a human opposed the the original four they probably used less human DNA opposed to the natives. I also remember in the codex in ME 1 that it's illegal to mess with human genetic code or something because they wish to keep humans pure (something along those lines).

Lets face it Moridin is a billion times more intelligent than those squints in Avatar so if your rich as sh*t it's possible I guess. mix your DNA and Tali's DNA then get a child. but it would be tank bred and even then it would probably be the one that everyone makes fun of because it's "different"

they would dare make fun of the child of the man who saved the Universe? I doub't it.

[Splinter Cell 108]

The only thing that I can think off that would make something like this happen is the fact that Humans are more genetically diverse than most. Meaning that yes maybe they could be compatible, like I said if my female Shepard is going to be pregnant then it better be a Turian or a Human. I don't want hybrids.

[gamergamergamer]

itt people with absolutley no clue about biology try to make their fantasies plausable

[Llandaryn]

Kyero wrote...

its called Science people, look it up. It
could happen but like someone said it would prob cause a lot of money
and time to come up with a way.

if anyone is capable with humans besides asari it would be quarians.

Llandaryn wrote...

How you're going to get around the problem of RNA transcription in a Human/Quarian hybrid is just beyond me. They don't even have the same base pair sequences. Your t-RNA is going to read "GGGACAGCCA" and then think "Oh ****, what do I do now?!?"

In Soviet Union, science looks up YOU!

[Jigero]

pretty easy way to solve this, even if it was possible, why hasn't it happened yet? 30 some odd years and no human and alien deiced to try to see if it works?



It's not possible, not even artificially mixing DNA, Even if you could mix DNA doesn't mean it would be successful.

[Brahlis]

A Turian + Krogan baby = interstellar badass.

[Llandaryn]

Rykn wrote...

They mixed human DNA with the natives DNA and got a body out of it. It looked mainly the same except it had the same number of fingers and toes as a human opposed the the original four. They probably used less human DNA opposed to the natives

I haven't seen Avatar, but what you're talking about has absolutely no relation to the ratio of human/alien DNA used. It's how the DNA is coded that determines those features, not how much DNA is present.

[Palathas]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Palathas wrote...

Not sure about Turians but Quarians have mammary glands so there's a chance that they are mammalian and may inter-breed.

Yeah, because being a mammal is all that's required for interbreeding. You could totally mate with a blue whale, right?

That'd be why I was extremely vague and only used words like "chance" and "may". As you pointed out, there are plenty of mammals running around on Earth that, as far as I know, can't inter-breed. Not that I've tried nor want to try....

Modifié par Palathas, 08 février 2010 - 10:53 .

[IccaRa]

I don't romance aliens for kids. I romance them for hot space lurve.



And no, it is not possible. And even if we're considering Space Wizard Technology, why the heck would you *want* a hybrid child? It'd be a mutant at best, an abomination at worst, and ostracized all around. Seems selfish to me.



But then again, as said. My Shep isn't interested in kids.



(Although she does have a green stepson as of ME2. That's good enough, I reckon.

[ckriley]

All I could think about from this thread was that scene in Family Guy onboard Noah's Ark:



Noah: What is that?!



*pointing to some freakish half elephant/half penguin thing....



Elephant: Oh, well, you didn't make any rules about mating.



Noah: Did you name it?



Elephant: What?



Noah: Did you name it?



Elephant: No.



Noah: Good, because it's going the **** overboard.