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[Kami102]

I doubt it -- sure she'll make a great candidate, but she's much too young (IMO) to be an Admiral.

All the other Admirals were much older and thus had more experience.

Though I can see her becoming an Admiral in her later years.



But for ME3's case, she'll be right by my Shep's side lol

[Dragnx80]

scyphozoa wrote...

I love Tali to bits. She is one of my favorite characters. But judging on the story of ME2 and the fact that she got such a big role in ME2 makes me think she will not have a squadmate role in ME3. She, like Wrex, will be taking on political duties in the Migrant Fleet. She will be able to be visited, and you can probably push the Peace/War with Geth storyline forward with her.

I think Admiral Tali has a great ring to it 8)

I don't know if anyone else ever spoke to Tali in the First Mass Effect about this but she said herself it was very unlikely that she'd ever serve as an Admiral.  I was dissappointed that Wrex was taken away next your gonna tell me the Garrus came down with the Bird Flu. 

[Teivel]

It would get me a vote on the admiralty board. Plus, it seems an appropriate way to fill the void left by her father.

[Dragnx80]

sergio71785 wrote...

I don't want her to be an admiral, since I really want her to continue being in my squad. But putting my bias aside, I don't think it'll happen.

-She's pretty young still, and the Quarians don't seem like the type who'll put someone young into that position.
-vas Normandy
-She's not a good leader. She's got a good head on her shoulders, but she's prone to letting emotions get the better of her. Plus we saw how she completely failed to keep those Quarians on Freedom's Progress under her command. Compare that to Shepard for example, who can talk his way into letting a Geth attend a Quarian hearing on the Flotilla.

I must say my playthrough was much much different thant yours Sergio71785 but I must say well done on taking Legion onto the Migrant Fleet.   I'm sure more that one Quarian had to clean their eviro-suits after that encounter. 

[sergio71785]

Dragnx80 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

I don't want her to be an admiral, since I really want her to continue being in my squad. But putting my bias aside, I don't think it'll happen.

-She's pretty young still, and the Quarians don't seem like the type who'll put someone young into that position.
-vas Normandy
-She's not a good leader. She's got a good head on her shoulders, but she's prone to letting emotions get the better of her. Plus we saw how she completely failed to keep those Quarians on Freedom's Progress under her command. Compare that to Shepard for example, who can talk his way into letting a Geth attend a Quarian hearing on the Flotilla.

I must say my playthrough was much much different thant yours Sergio71785 but I must say well done on taking Legion onto the Migrant Fleet.   I'm sure more that one Quarian had to clean their eviro-suits after that encounter. 

I actually didn't take him, I didn't even have him with me! Even if I had him in my crew at the time, taking a Geth crew member to something like that would be pretty tasteless and insensitive on Shepard's behalf. It was just an example of how good Shepard is as a leader, since you can take him.

[KainrycKarr]

Plausible, but not so soon. She seems awful young to be an admiral.

I could see the story ending with "Tali went on to become Admiral vas blah blah"

But I suspect she will, like garrus, be by Shepard's side until the reaper story arch is complete.

though either way, as long as the romance can be continued to some extent I'll be happy.

Also, as other users mentioned, as competent as she is, she really ISN'T admiral material.

and the fact that she lets her emotions get the better of her is evidenced by the story arch on board the alarei.

Modifié par KainrycKarr, 08 février 2010 - 05:32 .

[Garlador]

Tali herself didn't exactly sound thrilled by the idea that a few people wanted her to join the Admiralty. And then there's the whole "You deserve better" "I got better. I got you" part. It's obvious she prefers being "Vas Normandy" and fighting beside her friends on the frontline than sitting back and getting a headache in Quarian politics.



Besides, every political meeting would just end with Tali calling Mr. Qwib Qwib a Bosh'tet and threatening to jack his olfactory device so everything smells like refuse.

[xMister Vx]

An Admiral two years after completing her Pilgrimage? Yeeeah. Right. People are talking only because she is an Admiral's daughter, but as far as I understand, their Council doesn't work that way.

[Cutlass Jack]

Tali doesnt even want the job. If it happens it will be in the post ME3 endgame and only if she's not Shepard's LI at that point. (or if Shepard's truly dead at the end, which wouldn't surprise me.)

[cdsmith0]

I think it all comes down to how you play ME 2...if she is vas normandy she has to be a squadmate.

[Elastica]

Yes, it wouldn't make much sense to make her an admiral considering she's basically a young civilian with no leadership skills. Unless maybe this furthers the goals of the pro-war party. But even then it would be just asinine.

[Series5Ranger]

cdsmith0 wrote...

I think it all comes down to how you play ME 2...if she is vas normandy she has to be a squadmate.

No matter if you get her exiled or not She's "vas Normandy" after the trial.

[Forsakerr]

if they plan to make her not available as a squad member in ME3 they better get a real good reason since i plan to get her exiled so she can stay on my ship on my next playtrough

[Talogrungi]

I agree with the OP; it's a definate possibility.

The fact that she can die will likely mean that she gets a cameo in ME3 for those who kept her alive, and is replaced with a random quarian NPC for those who didn't.

[Naltair]

I think her ultimate destiny if she lives will probably be an admiral, at least one day.

[Collider]

Talogrungi wrote...

I agree with the OP; it's a definate possibility.
The fact that she can die will likely mean that she gets a cameo in ME3 for those who kept her alive, and is replaced with a random quarian NPC for those who didn't.

Why? This is the last game in the trilogy, they can go all out. Neither you nor anyone else, save for Bioware, really knows how "likely" it is that surviving squad mates get cameos. In truth, it's more work creating new squad mates. Why would they cheapen the suicide mission and just make new squad mates?

[Ackillez]

It's not actually a good idea for her to become an admiral. Tali's a genius mechanic and engineer, but she lacks experience and leadership skills. The conversation with Kal'Reegar also implies she lacks insight into military realities, where she doesn't realize that the weak immune systems of the Quarians and the dependence on the suits will pose a significant problem in land campaigns whenever supply gets strained.

[KainrycKarr]

Talogrungi wrote...

I agree with the OP; it's a definate possibility.
The fact that she can die will likely mean that she gets a cameo in ME3 for those who kept her alive, and is replaced with a random quarian NPC for those who didn't.

Why? Bioware already said they want to go all out with the variables. This is the last game in the trilogy.

It would be extremely weak to render the ME2 plot so meaningless by spreading the elite team you spent the entire game building over the galaxy.

[Talogrungi]

Collider wrote...

Talogrungi wrote...

I agree with the OP; it's a definate possibility.
The fact that she can die will likely mean that she gets a cameo in ME3 for those who kept her alive, and is replaced with a random quarian NPC for those who didn't.

Why? This is the last game in the trilogy, they can go all out. Neither you nor anyone else, save for Bioware, really knows how "likely" it is that surviving squad mates get cameos. In truth, it's more work creating new squad mates. Why would they cheapen the suicide mission and just make new squad mates?

You're right; it's all supposition at this point.

I'm just drawing conclusions based on what Bioware did with "killable" squadmates from ME1 to ME2.

I think that the continuity mechanic is one of the major selling points of Mass Effect; the fact that your choices matter in the following games is a big draw. I don't think Bioware would abandon this concept by allowing the player to recruit dead squadmates.

That to me would cheapen the sacrifices.

Bioware could just as easily (and I hope they do) incorporate ALL characters from ME1 and ME2 into ME3, and just lock out any that the player got killed.

[KainrycKarr]

Talogrungi wrote...

Collider wrote...

Talogrungi wrote...

I agree with the OP; it's a definate possibility.
The fact that she can die will likely mean that she gets a cameo in ME3 for those who kept her alive, and is replaced with a random quarian NPC for those who didn't.

Why? This is the last game in the trilogy, they can go all out. Neither you nor anyone else, save for Bioware, really knows how "likely" it is that surviving squad mates get cameos. In truth, it's more work creating new squad mates. Why would they cheapen the suicide mission and just make new squad mates?

You're right; it's all supposition at this point.

I'm just drawing conclusions based on what Bioware did with "killable" squadmates from ME1 to ME2.

I think that the continuity mechanic is one of the major selling points of Mass Effect; the fact that your choices matter in the following games is a big draw. I don't think Bioware would abandon this concept by allowing the player to recruit dead squadmates.

That to me would cheapen the sacrifices.

Bioware could just as easily (and I hope they do) incorporate ALL characters from ME1 and ME2 into ME3, and just lock out any that the player got killed.

...Or they could create new characters as "placeholders" for dead characters from an import.

Why do you all think in black and white?

[KainrycKarr]

Talogrungi wrote...

Collider wrote...

Talogrungi wrote...

I agree with the OP; it's a definate possibility.
The fact that she can die will likely mean that she gets a cameo in ME3 for those who kept her alive, and is replaced with a random quarian NPC for those who didn't.

Why? This is the last game in the trilogy, they can go all out. Neither you nor anyone else, save for Bioware, really knows how "likely" it is that surviving squad mates get cameos. In truth, it's more work creating new squad mates. Why would they cheapen the suicide mission and just make new squad mates?

You're right; it's all supposition at this point.

I'm just drawing conclusions based on what Bioware did with "killable" squadmates from ME1 to ME2.

I think that the continuity mechanic is one of the major selling points of Mass Effect; the fact that your choices matter in the following games is a big draw. I don't think Bioware would abandon this concept by allowing the player to recruit dead squadmates.

That to me would cheapen the sacrifices.

Bioware could just as easily (and I hope they do) incorporate ALL characters from ME1 and ME2 into ME3, and just lock out any that the player got killed.

...Or they could create new characters as "placeholders" for dead characters from an import.

Why do you all think in black and white?

[KainrycKarr]

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Modifié par KainrycKarr, 08 février 2010 - 06:05 .

[NoUserNameHere]

She didn't seem too keen on the job last I talked to her.

If she ever did make admiral, I'd say that it wouldn't be untill after the game is over. That, or near the very end of any Quarian-related subplot.

[Gabey5]

the flotilla is boring so no

[Collider]

Talogrungi wrote...
I think that the continuity mechanic is one of the major selling points of Mass Effect; the fact that your choices matter in the following games is a big draw. I don't think Bioware would abandon this concept by allowing the player to recruit dead squadmates.

I'm not saying we should be able to recruit dead squad mates. In fact, that's the opposite of what I'm saying. Players should have to deal with the consequences of their actions or inactions for the suicide mission. The outcome of said mission is easily changed by reloading a save.

That to me would cheapen the sacrifices.

But it isn't even a remote possibility. No one actually thinks that Bioware is going to allow you to recruit squad mates that died as if it never happened. It's not even a question. More over, Bioware has already confirmed that when characters die, they stay dead.
Having squad mates that survived nonexistent or only getting cameos in ME3 does cheapen the suicide mission. Yes, Wrex could die in ME1, but ME1 did not have the entire "suicide mission" theme to it. Who knows, he could be recruitable in ME3. Bioware has made a point to have Ashley/Kaidan and Liara survive ME2 by not making them squad mates, after all.

Bioware could just as easily (and I hope they do) incorporate ALL characters from ME1 and ME2 into ME3, and just lock out any that the player got killed.

They could, but they obviously won't. The real question is whether they won't to virtually invalidate the suicide mission by not including surviving ME2 squad mates in ME3 somehow, or delegating them to unimportant or small cameos. As ME3 is the last in the trilogy, they can go all out on the variables without worrying about how entangled the import feature would be. And that, as I've read, is what they intend to do - have much more branching plot lines and such.

Modifié par Collider, 08 février 2010 - 06:10 .