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bevey2176

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yeah sinosleep I picked a claymore and didnt like it that much compared to the eviscerator so if I were to go through again I would pick up a sniper. Makes dealing with those mechs alot easier.

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bevey2176 wrote...

He cheats vanguards dont use snipers. lol.
I just use SMG for Shields pistol/shotgun for armor and spam the overload.  Trick is you need to get one down ASAP once it is 1v1 you can just circle around some tall cover and the mech cant even touch you


I had a lot of trouble with that when I first tried it... (the beer might have played a bit of a role in that). I just couldn't do it. I got them both once and after killing a few peons did a reckless charge and got splattered. So I gave up after over 10 attempts...

The next day I cleared it on my first attempt. No sniper though, just my good pal the Claymore, some overloads and some warps. Damn that felt good :)

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yea I remember that room. you need to hang back and kill the first Verran and all the Vorcha. Then move forward. Once you kill the whole room, only 2 guys at a time come out the shutter door. It's easy enough to hold them off while the shutter closes.

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Nexolek wrote...

Anyway, I'm now level 30 and still have a couple loyalty missions left before some more fun with collectors. Just wanted to say a big THANK YOU to all the contributors to this thread! Reading this is like crack and has REALLY helped me have an absolutely awesome time with my vanguard :)


Glad the thread was a help to you.  This, and Average Gatsby's, are the only 2 threads that really dig into the classes and have lasted.  Plus, we've all remained civil in here, which I want to thank everyone for.  A big Kudos to all the guys that have been regulars because they've really added a lot of info and insight into the class.

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thisisme8 wrote...

Nexolek wrote...

Anyway, I'm now level 30 and still have a couple loyalty missions left before some more fun with collectors. Just wanted to say a big THANK YOU to all the contributors to this thread! Reading this is like crack and has REALLY helped me have an absolutely awesome time with my vanguard :)


Glad the thread was a help to you.  This, and Average Gatsby's, are the only 2 threads that really dig into the classes and have lasted.  Plus, we've all remained civil in here, which I want to thank everyone for.  A big Kudos to all the guys that have been regulars because they've really added a lot of info and insight into the class.


Indeed! I usually stay away from most forums because they just seem to bring out the stupid in everyone. I've also been following Gatsby's too... I actually respecced my vanguard after watching his videos to play around with biotic combos. Really threw myself off for a while. But you know, there are just some cases where a charge is certain death, so now I just go all biotic on their asses and explode them with my brain!

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Nexolek wrote...

thisisme8 wrote...

Nexolek wrote...

Anyway, I'm now level 30 and still have a couple loyalty missions left before some more fun with collectors. Just wanted to say a big THANK YOU to all the contributors to this thread! Reading this is like crack and has REALLY helped me have an absolutely awesome time with my vanguard :)


Glad the thread was a help to you.  This, and Average Gatsby's, are the only 2 threads that really dig into the classes and have lasted.  Plus, we've all remained civil in here, which I want to thank everyone for.  A big Kudos to all the guys that have been regulars because they've really added a lot of info and insight into the class.


Indeed! I usually stay away from most forums because they just seem to bring out the stupid in everyone. I've also been following Gatsby's too... I actually respecced my vanguard after watching his videos to play around with biotic combos. Really threw myself off for a while. But you know, there are just some cases where a charge is certain death, so now I just go all biotic on their asses and explode them with my brain!


"With mind bullets!  That's telekenisis, Kyle."
-Jack Black in Wonderboy by Tenacious D.

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i really want to get grunt loyal ASAP, ive got his shotgun, but i havent got any of the other characters, thing being, if i get grunt loyal, and have his ability maxed out, with that shotty of his, he can sit in the middle of the field blasting away, any thoughts on who i should take for his loyalty mission, and should i get them loyal first?

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@ Devine Flame found an old save file with a level 6 vanguard at Garrus' recruitment mission. It's an old, and bad build, Jacob isn't high enough level to have squad incendiary ammo, and I'm using the katana lol. Vid will be up shortly.

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sinosleep wrote...

@ Devine Flame found an old save file with a level 6 vanguard at Garrus' recruitment mission. It's an old, and bad build, Jacob isn't high enough level to have squad incendiary ammo, and I'm using the katana lol. Vid will be up shortly.


Awesome.  Thanks for taking the time for the vid.

Modifié par thisisme8, 19 février 2010 - 05:41 .


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Great guides and tips everyone. I loved the Vanguard, but was close to quiting since my gunfu skills were not very good. But with all the tips here I have improved enough to get through it on hardcore. Now I guess ill have to try insanity.



BTW I love the Squad Cryo Ammo trick.

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thisisme8 wrote...
Awesome.  Thanks for taking the time for the vid.


No problem, I've got today and tomorrow off from work so I've got the time to do it. I just hope youtube doesn't decide to take a year and a half to process this one. 

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I love the sequence skipping powers of the vanguard. Sure, infiltrators are capable of turning on their cloaks and making mad dashes, but nothing beats charging to the back end of enemy lines and completely avoiding most of combat. I can beat Mordin's loyalty mission between 5-10 minutes doing so.

I think it's obvious which class will be used for speed runs. :P

Modifié par dabossman35, 19 février 2010 - 06:20 .


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Damn it, I've uploaded the video like 3 damned times and youtube keeps doubling the length on them all. I noticed all of my HD vids bar one have the same problem. I don't know why this keeps happening considering I haven't changed the output settings on my converter in any way.

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sinosleep wrote...

Damn it, I've uploaded the video like 3 damned times and youtube keeps doubling the length on them all. I noticed all of my HD vids bar one have the same problem. I don't know why this keeps happening considering I haven't changed the output settings on my converter in any way.

Sinosleep if you can't get it uploaded no biggie. I'm gonna try it again tonight after i'm off work and see what happens. If you get the vid up great if not i'm not too worried about it. I adapt pretty fast in most cases so based on all my deaths i'm pretty close to getting it down lol.

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hewhostalksdeth wrote...

Great guides and tips everyone. I loved the Vanguard, but was close to quiting since my gunfu skills were not very good. But with all the tips here I have improved enough to get through it on hardcore. Now I guess ill have to try insanity.

BTW I love the Squad Cryo Ammo trick.


Any particular new trick with squad cryo? I must have missed something in the last few pages :)

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Divine Flame wrote...

sinosleep wrote...

Damn it, I've uploaded the video like 3 damned times and youtube keeps doubling the length on them all. I noticed all of my HD vids bar one have the same problem. I don't know why this keeps happening considering I haven't changed the output settings on my converter in any way.

Sinosleep if you can't get it uploaded no biggie. I'm gonna try it again tonight after i'm off work and see what happens. If you get the vid up great if not i'm not too worried about it. I adapt pretty fast in most cases so based on all my deaths i'm pretty close to getting it down lol.


It's uploaded, it's just longer than it should be. The video should end at 1:55. Here it is. 

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sinosleep wrote...

Divine Flame wrote...

sinosleep wrote...

Damn it, I've uploaded the video like 3 damned times and youtube keeps doubling the length on them all. I noticed all of my HD vids bar one have the same problem. I don't know why this keeps happening considering I haven't changed the output settings on my converter in any way.

Sinosleep if you can't get it uploaded no biggie. I'm gonna try it again tonight after i'm off work and see what happens. If you get the vid up great if not i'm not too worried about it. I adapt pretty fast in most cases so based on all my deaths i'm pretty close to getting it down lol.


It's uploaded, it's just longer than it should be. The video should end at 1:55. Here it is. 

Sinosleep you're my hero. Thank You SOOOO MUCH  for this vid.

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@sarah anan: i think he means having squad cryo activated then switching to inferno, so you have inferno while your squaddies have cryo.

Modifié par Kurupt87, 19 février 2010 - 07:03 .


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Divine Flame wrote...

Sinosleep you're my hero. Thank You SOOOO MUCH  for this vid.


True, good man.

And as Kurupt87 said, it's not so much a trick, but once Squad Cryo is on, you can switch to any other -non-Squad- ammo power and they'll keep Cryo.

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I should have said strat instead of trick. It did help alot on many of the encounters. I suck at shooters and having my butt saved by many of them contantly getting frozen was a welcome change.

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im stuck with the 3 ymir mechs on the cargo recovery....any ideas? ive got either mordin, miranda, garrus, or grunt, any ideas guys?

#747
harleyflames20000

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cmon someone....need a hand here lol

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harleyflames20000 wrote...

im stuck with the 3 ymir mechs on the cargo recovery....any ideas? ive got either mordin, miranda, garrus, or grunt, any ideas guys?


Average Gatsby made this video showing how he did it.  Fast too.

#749
Kurupt87

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that is hard for vanguards no doubt, but if you bring the cain and aim between all three, that should get rid of the nearer 2's shields leaving you with only armour to kill. so bring along armour strippers and you should be ok.

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tsch, its adept though...and i have no heavy weapon ammo :/