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Vanguard tips and tricks on Hardcore/Insanity - Revised Edition 1.2


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#1776
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RamsenC wrote...

Six seconds, same as reave.


Very nice.

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@Kronner

With the claymore, you have 1.5 a second to reach next target before you can shoot, with the Evi it's 0.65ish if you have to melee after the shot to finish 'em off. I can see how that would be a big difference when you are used to using the Claymore, as you say it's all about familiarity I think. You get used to working with the tool of your choice and adapt your style accordingly.



I think I figured out why the Scimitar was so slow, it might have to do with the melee/shot cycles becoming a bit messed up, if I saw it correctly. I'll concede that it's probably easier to reach the theoretical max killing speed of 3 guys using the Claymore and the Evi then it is the Scimitar.

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Six seconds is more than I would like, but if someone is already thinking about reave they probably don't mind.

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Wow that was one sick warp combo, so many in one go

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Yea they all lined up nice and perfect for some reason :o

I'm pretty sure the warp combo vanguard wouldn't be effective on Geth since they have such high shields, but I have no more Geth to try it on. Also am I the only one that can't get area reave to one shot Blood Pack defenses?

edit: I may me wrong about Geth, it seems like Nexolek was knocking shields out in one overload in his video. Still unsure about Blood Pack and reave. 

Modifié par RamsenC, 14 mars 2010 - 02:05 .


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Don't think I have a save handy to test that yet I'm afraid.

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Kronner wrote...

<snip>

Also, if I scored 3 headshots with Evi, I would probably be faster than Claymore, maybe I'll give it a try laters (hate loading times with 2 CPU cores on - with 1 FRAPS kills my PC).


Use this. I do it every time I fire up the game. It works for me. Takes a few extra seconds when you start, but has probably saved me hours of loading screen in the end.

#1783
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Today i was doing Grunts recruitment mission for the 1st time ever on Insanity and the area after the spot when you come up the stairs and their is the cover and you have to go through like 4 legionaires and 2 heavies with the med...wait thats confusing



Basically i completed Grunts mission after 20 minutes of death death death after getting so frustrated i played recklessly aggressive and ended up killing the first two people in a zone and moving into the next room ending the spawn of more enemies that were plaguing me.

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I was bored today. For those that have trouble with the Eclipse Smuggling Depot (fighting three YMIRs while saving containers), here's the easy way to do it. Sure, you don't need to use the Cain, but I'd rather save more containers. More cash equates to more upgrades. Sounds right to me. Has anyone saved 20?

Fighting mechs like a Vanguard

Also, it's a little tribute to Average Gatsby for all the hard work. If you can figure out what the tribute is, you're awesome.

Modifié par Nexolek, 14 mars 2010 - 03:20 .


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Wow can't believe the Cain hit all 3. Good stuff.

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Nexolek wrote...

I was bored today. For those that have trouble with the Eclipse Smuggling Depot (fighting three YMIRs while saving containers), here's the easy way to do it. Sure, you don't need to use the Cain, but I'd rather save more containers. More cash equates to more upgrades. Sounds right to me. Has anyone saved 20?

Fighting mechs like a Vanguard

Also, it's a little tribute to Average Gatsby for all the hard work. If you know why, you're awesome.

(Still processing...)


Good video, how did you add music to the video without getting rid of the games original sound effects?

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Nexolek wrote...

I was bored today. For those that have trouble with the Eclipse Smuggling Depot (fighting three YMIRs while saving containers), here's the easy way to do it. Sure, you don't need to use the Cain, but I'd rather save more containers. More cash equates to more upgrades. Sounds right to me. Has anyone saved 20?

Fighting mechs like a Vanguard

Also, it's a little tribute to Average Gatsby for all the hard work. If you know why, you're awesome.

(Still processing...)


Great job!

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Sabresandiego wrote...

Nexolek wrote...

I was bored today. For those that have trouble with the Eclipse Smuggling Depot (fighting three YMIRs while saving containers), here's the easy way to do it. Sure, you don't need to use the Cain, but I'd rather save more containers. More cash equates to more upgrades. Sounds right to me. Has anyone saved 20?

Fighting mechs like a Vanguard

Also, it's a little tribute to Average Gatsby for all the hard work. If you know why, you're awesome.

(Still processing...)


Good video, how did you add music to the video without getting rid of the games original sound effects?


Sabre!  You obviously haven't been watching my vids!  It's a staple of them!!!

Modifié par thisisme8, 14 mars 2010 - 03:14 .


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Thanks guys. I suddenly had an urge to explode mechs for no particular reason. I wonder if saving 20 is even possible on Insanity.

No one knows what the secret tribute is huh?

Edit: I can't type...

Modifié par Nexolek, 14 mars 2010 - 03:35 .


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how do you do it?

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Sabresandiego wrote...

how do you do it?


I use Premiere. It's not exactly an easy program to just jump into though. Luckily, there are a ton of online tutorials out there that can really help. I love it!

For example, I made the heavy part of the music kick in on the exact frame when the Cain explodes. It's actually quite easy to do once you get used to the overwhelming interface.

#1792
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Holy hell. I know how to save 19 crates... I think it can only be done with a Claymore though.

#1793
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Wouldnt 2 cain shots save all 20?

#1794
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How can you get two shots out of the Cain without running to the power cells on the left side? Wouldn't some crates get destroyed in that time?



My personal best on insanity is 17.

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Yeah two Cain shots wouldn't cut it I don't think. They spread out too fast. I have video evidence of saving 19 with the Claymore, but I'm leaving in two minutes... so when I get back (if I'm sober enough).

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I was thinking of making a Vnaguard but they seem such a stupid idea, to charge the enemy especially on insanity when you shields go down. Then again all the classes seem a bit dull as they campaing is really repetative and you don't have any good guns until the collector ship...

#1797
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Charging the enemy when your shields are down is in fact one of he best uses of the Charge ability. The playstyle of the Vanguard seems a bit suicidal when you read BW's simple class descriptions, but when played right it is an absolute wrecking ball on any difficulty, even insanity.



The numerous amazing videos created by the fine gentlemen in this thread are a testament to that.

#1798
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I know this isnt really the forum for this but it IS an issue on my Vanguard character.



For some reason i dont have the prototype for retraining powers, idk why its missing, does it not show up until after horizon?



note: this is my 5th playthrough and 1st on insanity.

#1799
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I believe it comes after horizon

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Yep, you get the option to retrain your powers right after you finish Horizon.