Aller au contenu

Photo

Vanguard tips and tricks on Hardcore/Insanity - Revised Edition 1.2


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
2583 réponses à ce sujet

#2176
TMA LIVE

TMA LIVE
  • Members
  • 7 015 messages
Well, I'm trying a new playthrough, and right off the bat, it doesn't do squat. I counted the timer, and it's still the same amount of time. Will see what difference it makes after Champion is required.

#2177
EffectedByTheMasses

EffectedByTheMasses
  • Members
  • 539 messages
is vanguard w/ dominate any good? note that I mainly use it on veteran and heavy emphasis on squad cryo and shockwave. Yes, shockwave. I am quite aware that I'm bizarre.

#2178
CherryColaLola

CherryColaLola
  • Members
  • 134 messages

EffectedByTheMasses wrote...

is vanguard w/ dominate any good? note that I mainly use it on veteran and heavy emphasis on squad cryo and shockwave. Yes, shockwave. I am quite aware that I'm bizarre.


Never tried Dominate but AI hacking on organics sounds like win. And you are NOT wierd for using shockwave, ragdoll effects as your targets go flying in the air like bowling pins never gets old.  The screaming is fun too. Image IPB

EDIT: I should mention I'm currently trying a hardcore vanguard playthrough with bonus power of Reave, I find I'm using that most, always looking for opportunities to go bowling though.  Shockwave is just cool. Image IPB

Modifié par CherryColaLola, 17 mai 2010 - 07:39 .


#2179
The Spamming Troll

The Spamming Troll
  • Members
  • 6 252 messages
ive actually recently started a vanguard and its is by far the funnest class to play. i picked up the sniper rifle, and i see no reason whatsoever to play any other class. im using dominate right now and its going pretty good. first i tried the flashbang but that got old after the first time i used it. you run into alot more organics then synthetics and dominate works great for adding another squadmate for a few seconds.

#2180
DaVanguard

DaVanguard
  • Members
  • 664 messages
I use reave to pin and drain health then have katsumi flashbang before I chare its a good tactic

#2181
EffectedByTheMasses

EffectedByTheMasses
  • Members
  • 539 messages
I know someone will be hating me for saying this, but I feel tempted to try Vanguard, and respec and totally ignore charge. I think it would fit my playstyle more. My build would be something like this:

Inferno ammo

Improved Cryo (See Cruz1ale's Who Needs Squadmates videos to see why)

Improved shockwave

Area Reave

Champion or Destroyer- Not sure. Which do you think would suit this build better?

1 Point in pull



The idea is to use Reave to damage barriers and provide CC. Use shockwave to stagger/distract enemies and advance aggressively but tactically. Cryo and Inferno ammo for further damage boost and CC. 1 point in pull to do warp combos.



What do you guys think? And also, if you do miraculously approve of this experiment, which weapon specialization do you think I should choose.


#2182
EffectedByTheMasses

EffectedByTheMasses
  • Members
  • 539 messages
...And I just realized that what I wrote is technically impossible. Oops. Fail.

#2183
Raphael diSanto

Raphael diSanto
  • Members
  • 748 messages

CherryColaLola wrote...

EffectedByTheMasses wrote...

is vanguard w/ dominate any good? note that I mainly use it on veteran and heavy emphasis on squad cryo and shockwave. Yes, shockwave. I am quite aware that I'm bizarre.


Never tried Dominate but AI hacking on organics sounds like win. And you are NOT wierd for using shockwave, ragdoll effects as your targets go flying in the air like bowling pins never gets old.  The screaming is fun too. Image IPB

EDIT: I should mention I'm currently trying a hardcore vanguard playthrough with bonus power of Reave, I find I'm using that most, always looking for opportunities to go bowling though.  Shockwave is just cool. Image IPB


In truth, that's how I ran my Vanguard/Hardcore run, too. Reave is just too useful a power, and it's not an insanely long cooldown either. I found that with Reave for long distance stuff, and Charge/shotgun for close-range stuff, I had enough tricks in my bag for most situations.

Husk-bowling with Shockwave -is- the win though. It really does never get old....

#2184
Neuzhelin

Neuzhelin
  • Members
  • 304 messages
The Collector Platform encounter (as EDI is regaining control) in a total of 1minute 15 seconds (insanity, final battle)
if you do it faster, please do link it.

Modifié par Neuzhelin, 02 juillet 2010 - 10:12 .


#2185
Neuzhelin

Neuzhelin
  • Members
  • 304 messages
The follow up to the platform encounter (remaining enemies AFTER EDI has regained control) in  8 minutes. Non stop charges of everything except the pretorian.

Modifié par Neuzhelin, 02 juillet 2010 - 10:15 .


#2186
Neuzhelin

Neuzhelin
  • Members
  • 304 messages
20 Eclipse Crates Saved:
N7: Eclipse Smuggling Depot Guide

#2187
BeresaadSoldier

BeresaadSoldier
  • Members
  • 169 messages
My latest vanguard compilation on insanity: Crazy with a shotgun.

#2188
Kaylord

Kaylord
  • Members
  • 315 messages
The final run with vanguard happens for me without charge, since there is not much use for it on the confined platforms. Good for recharging shields, but not as a charge per se. So I came to play the Vanguard like a soldier. Sniper rifle and Reave, you don´t need a Revenant anymore.

Thanks to the ammo powers, the enemies fell almost as quickly as with a soldier. And after 6 playthroughs, I prefer instant shield recharge plus slow motion anytime over slow motion plus slight damage increase. Soldiers out, Vanguard is the new soldier!

#2189
i love lamp x3

i love lamp x3
  • Members
  • 350 messages
i just finished my insanity playthrough. i completed the whole game every cluster 100% and all DLC on insanity. i had a solid amount of trouble with the collector trap. after that.. it was pretty much smooth sailing. pretty easy and you feel more powerful than other classes. didn't die once in the suicide mission in which i used tali and kasumi as my squadmates. here's my build:



4 squad incendiary

0 cryo

4 heavy charge

1 pull

4 champion

4 area reave



for weapons i used the carnifex hand cannon, locust smg, vindicator assault rifle, eviscerater shotgun, and the cain (switched to rocket launcher for the protect quarian side mission)



i highly recommend area reave as it drains enemy health and gives you a health bonus and stuns them for several seconds. it also does double damage to shields/barriers and armor. i used the smg with incendiary ammo and reave along with a squadmates' overload and/or tali's energy drain (which takes down an enemy's shields and restores hers) to take the down the shields of a large group. then i crippled an enemy or 3 with reave then took out the shotgun and charged across the battlefield from enemy to enemy. just be safe with your charges, charge into a group of no more than 3 unshielded enemies and make sure there's a spot for cover. oh and on insanity obviously the tougher enemies are often barried/shielded and/or armored and these guys are bold they will walk right up to you and try to shoot at point blank range. if you can't get them vulnerable enough in time, tali or legion's attack drone works wondering at giving you a few extra seconds to lower their defenses and finish them off.



i had trouble with the collector trap. some tips for that are: send the attack drone after harbinger and use the vindicator assault rifle. in experimenting, i learned that the vindicator assault rifle is much more effective than the collector assault rifle or geth pulse rifle. i tried probably 15 or 20 times with the collector's assault rifle before trying out the vindicator assault rifle and beating it the first try. i didn't have the locust smg at the time but i imagine that would help as well.

#2190
Simbacca

Simbacca
  • Members
  • 861 messages
I finally downloaded Overlord so last night I set my Engineer aside and dusted off my Vanguard.  Level 30, Insanity, with Zaaed and Legion.  Since I'll be using Squad Disruptor Ammo exclusively, I decided to respec my Vanguard to see if having other maxed biotics available causes me to mix up the charging a bit.  I took all my points out of Shepard's ammo powers and rebuild him as 4 Heavy Charge, 4 Improved Shockwave, 4 Pull Field, 4 Champion, and 4 Crippling Slam.  I got what I'm guessing is about 2/5ths of the way through the DLC, and already I can see why many say its the best questline in the game.  Compared to the other quests in the game, atmosphere and emersion seem amped up as does presentation and level design.

#2191
SirValeq

SirValeq
  • Members
  • 271 messages
With the recent talk on the forum about cooldowns and rounded numbers... did anybody actually try Destroyer? Or are people claiming that Champion is the way to go, just because nobody proved otherwise?

#2192
Kronner

Kronner
  • Members
  • 6 249 messages

iLikeBWgames wrote...

With the recent talk on the forum about cooldowns and rounded numbers... did anybody actually try Destroyer? Or are people claiming that Champion is the way to go, just because nobody proved otherwise?


The cooldown time is not rounded. It is a minor difference, between Destroyer and Champion, but even a split second may save your ass sometimes. Also, the 100% Paragon/Renegade bonus is the main reason I go Champion. The extra weapon damage Destroyer provides is useless for me, I use Claymore all the time, plus with the latest armor (Aegis DLC pack) you get insane weapon damage bonus anyways.

#2193
Bebuse

Bebuse
  • Members
  • 229 messages
I love vanguards. I tried other classes but my vanguard broke them. It's also given me the strange urge to hit my '1' key every time I have to cross a room!

#2194
ajayatfringefx

ajayatfringefx
  • Members
  • 71 messages
I love vanguards but the 360 version is harder to maneuver (squad hotkeys and lining up for charges) especially with my loose battery pack. I wish it was a bit easier XD

#2195
awpdevil

awpdevil
  • Members
  • 302 messages
Can you pause like you can on PC? If you can, you could pause and line up charges with the camera.

#2196
ajayatfringefx

ajayatfringefx
  • Members
  • 71 messages

awpdevil wrote...

Can you pause like you can on PC? If you can, you could pause and line up charges with the camera.


Yeah I sometimes pause, but I love playing realtime better because I find it fun and I don't want to lose my pride XD.

#2197
The Illusive Reaper

The Illusive Reaper
  • Members
  • 4 messages
Don't know whether Vanguard is the "strongest", but it's sure hell of a fun :)

True that coming from ME1 Vanguard I got confused at first and died countless times charging in the wrong place. After some practice, nothing beats Charge / Shotgun / Melee !



Anyway, wanted to chip in re: Dominate, when Charge isn't possible, getting down protections with SMG and then Dominate one enemy works wonders. Enjoy the show of them fighting each other... CHARGE!

#2198
Wintermist

Wintermist
  • Members
  • 2 655 messages
I just finished a Vanguard Insanity game for the first time. It was fun, though I turned on biotics to work even though they have armor or barrier since I find it illogical for them to simply be blocked. Perhaps you would consider it cheating but I don't care much :P I did have to reload more than I care to count lol

#2199
Thresher Maw

Thresher Maw
  • Members
  • 50 messages
For some time now the Claymore/Scimitar/Eviscerator have all been considered fairly equal. I wonder, does the new Aegis armor change that at all? With the obscene amount of melee damage on it, I wonder if perhaps it causes the Eviscerator to pull ahead of the other two shotguns, given that Eviscerator users rely on melee damage more than users of the other shotguns.

#2200
ajayatfringefx

ajayatfringefx
  • Members
  • 71 messages

Thresher Maw wrote...

For some time now the Claymore/Scimitar/Eviscerator have all been considered fairly equal. I wonder, does the new Aegis armor change that at all? With the obscene amount of melee damage on it, I wonder if perhaps it causes the Eviscerator to pull ahead of the other two shotguns, given that Eviscerator users rely on melee damage more than users of the other shotguns.


Not really. 2 well placed scimitar shots (will equal to the same speed as one evi shot) can outright kill grunt enemies. Anything that doesn't get killed can eat the plates from the kestrel armor.