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Are You Guys Buyin this New Ander Companion?


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NoAngel89

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Whatever was said between me and Gaider, has no relation to this topic, so if you're going to say crap about whatever went, you're just adding more fire to the flame war, and is bringing the tread down. So take your righteous attuide and put it as a PM, it doesn't belong in this forum, this forum is meant to discuss the Character of Ander/balance between serious and funny character in the game and nothing else. This dispute has gone long enough. Additional fighting here is not making an once of difference, its turning this forum away into something ugly. Its an understatement, when I say, this junk needs to stop.

Fine fine I jumped the gun on this one. Well guess we'll wait and
see what happens. Maybe hes not too bad. I just got the first
impression he looked like some generic character, I was expecting some
new different hair style or something, or some different unqiue added facial feature, since this is an expansion. Though I hope they do. I like to see more custom options from bioware in the game. I'm sure bioware
will deliver in the end, like they did with DAO gameplay wise. I
probably shoudn't get too caught up on appearances, thats why theres a
modding community

Read this Whatever stuff, if you're curious about my Thoughts about him before

WARNING: I'm going to RANT OUT Ander.

Great Awaken sounds cool. But are you really feelin this Anders guy. I mean he looks like a look alike of Duncan with combination of Alistair. The guy has the same hair. This looks like something a modder can create, I was hoping more of a original look like in the concpt art. Something a modder can't make, giving another reason why to buy it. Instead this Ander guy looks like a mesh together rip off. And what makes this worse is that hes a humorous apostate, which is depicted in the commerical. A Apostate with a sense of humor making crack wise jokes. COME ON!!!! For goodness sakes apostates are run away mages. You think they be bitter harden beings who are Bad@&! since they're being hunted by templars, for their lives. Magical beings are usually shunned by society in the game. Because of fear of their power, indiviuals of noblity who are found to have magical abilities lose their rank and title because of that. Plus being isolated in a tower for most likey the rest of their lives, that sound like second lowest towards the elves. Take another step down, and you have apostate, these guys should be freakin Rebels man. The freakin rock stars, who hates the world. But no, instead we get a apostate with punch lines, wow. "I didn't do it." jess

I mean come on, its weird enough that pretty much everyone in your party has this freaky sense of humor, that contradicts the this dark game, its werid enough that while youre killing freakish bloody monster, you have Alistair making crack wise jokes. I feel its totally unbalance, theres not really a serious bad-A myterious party character other then sten. And I like that about Sten, even though he sounds terrible in the beginning of the game, tribal harden warrior with a man superioty ego, theres a type of strange profoundness about him, you want to now more about. Thats the type of quality I want more of the DAO party memebers to have. A type of suddenness, actually deep characters. Sadly you only get him to open up mostly, if you make renegade tough mean choices. For once I like to see a mysterious deep serious party character, designed for Paragon suposed good choices.

I like to see that type of balance in the game. Seriousness with Humor, al least, especially in a game that about the world coming to an end. Or whatever horrible existance if they don't stop something something from happening. Theres too much of it, that the grim doesn't really feel grim, or suposedly dark.

I wish there was a character like duncan (personality wise) that would at least be serious.

Leliana and Wynne don't count, they're way too funny at times, and Leliana, sure considering her past, but its hard to find a type profound deepness about her, and take her seriously, with that glamour girl attitude. It kinda ruins it for me.

Anyway I hope ya get where I'm coming from :pinched:

Modifié par NoAngel89, 11 février 2010 - 07:00 .


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darrenr22

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I have not seen it stated anywhere that Anders is a blood mage.



I have no problem with the look of the character. It had not even occurred to me that he "looks like something a modder can create".

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Oh believe me I can create that if I wanted to. Its not that hard. I really wish they didn't include the ear ring. Looks too much like duncans hair. If you use they toolset, you can pull that hair off off the file and use it for other characters. And the shape face resembles Alistair. After me seeing it a second time, you're right, I meant apostate. I could probably make a Ander Face morph.

Modifié par NoAngel89, 08 février 2010 - 11:03 .


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NoAngel89 wrote...

WARNING: I'm going to RANT OUT Ander.

Great Awaken sounds cool. But are you really feelin this Anders guy. I mean he looks like a look alike of Duncan with combination of Alistair. The guy has the same hair. This looks like something a modder can create, I was hoping more of a original look like in the concpt art. Something a modder can't make, giving another reason why to buy it. Instead this Ander guy looks like a mesh together rip off. And what makes this worse is that hes a humorous blood mage, which is depicted in the commerical. A blood mage with a sense of humor making crack wise jokes. COME ON!!!! For goodness sakes Blood Mages are being who confide in forbidden magic. You think they be bitter harden beings who are Bad@&! since they're being hunted by templars, for their lives. Magical beings are usually shunned by society in the game. Because of fear of their power, indiviuals of noblity who are found to have magical abilities lose their rank and title because of that. Plus being isolated in a tower for most likey the rest of their lives, that sound like second lowest towards the elves. Take another step down, and you have blood mages, these guys should be freakin Rebels man. The freakin rock stars, who hates the world. But no, instead we get a blood mage with punch lines, wow.


HE IS NOT A BLOOD MAGE!!!
In actuality he hates blood mage (it is in his description). He is hunted by templars because he doesn't want to be confined in the Circle of Magi and it is enough to be considered apostate (but apostate are not always maleficarum).

Edit: You have corrected your post in the meantime; however it is still important to understand the big difference between apostate and Blood Mage/Maleficarum. The Dalish Keepers (and Morrigan) are also apostate are they are not part of the Circle of Magi.

Modifié par edeheusch, 08 février 2010 - 10:22 .


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Too bad for you that Anders is NO BLOOD MAGE, he hates them:
http://greywardens.com/2010/02/awakening-anders-character-trailer/#more-3842
I quote:
"It’s a lucky thing that Anders despises blood mages as much as the Chantry does ..."

And Anders looks cute imho Image IPB I look forward to this character!

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I think his a Allistair replacement. Young, dumb, & hot blooded. Except his a templar hunter. How contradictary? Bioware needs a new content writer. Image IPB

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NoAngel89 wrote...

Oh believe me I can create that if I wanted to. Its not that hard. I really wish they didn't include the ear ring. Looks too much like duncans hair. If you use they toolset, you can pull that hair off off the file and use it for other characters. And the shape face resembles Alistair. After you seeing it a second time, you're right I meant apostate. I could probably make a Ander Face morph.


I didn't say you couldn't. It just never occurred to me that there was anything wrong with the way the character looked. I don't have a problem with it.

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 Buying Anders? He comes with the game. :lol:

But in all seriousness I think he is similar to Alistair minus the morals (though not to the point of being a blood mage). Since Alistair will probably be too busy occupying himself by ruling the country, Anders will be the next best thing.

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OMG I lready changed that, haven't you've seen I already admitted I was wrong in the earlier comments, stop killing the horse!

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"Beating the dead horse" you mean.

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darrenr22 wrote...

NoAngel89 wrote...

Oh believe me I can create that if I wanted to. Its not that hard. I really wish they didn't include the ear ring. Looks too much like duncans hair. If you use they toolset, you can pull that hair off off the file and use it for other characters. And the shape face resembles Alistair. After you seeing it a second time, you're right I meant apostate. I could probably make a Ander Face morph.


I didn't say you couldn't. It just never occurred to me that there was anything wrong with the way the character looked. I don't have a problem with it.


Fine you don't but I do, it doesn't look original, everything seems like too cookiecut. Plus why do you feel the need to BOLD everything I say. I mean seriously, want you trying to prove.... that I can.... make a face morph..... of him.......?. Well the Morph model I would make would have his ear ring be the same color as his hair, I'll give the Ander model that originality. I proabably can't replicate that<_<

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Ok. I'm calling troll on this one.

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13eelzebub wrote...

"Beating the dead horse" you mean.


:pinched: whatever, ya'll are missing the Point. Don't yall want Bioware to make deeper characters, rather then just characters who would just make you laugh on your journey. It just seems too two dimesional to me. Sure maybe Ander is maybe profound along with being humorous, but I'm so tired of Bioware playing the funny card for their characters.

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jsachun wrote...

I think his a Allistair replacement. Young, dumb, & hot blooded. Except his a templar hunter. How contradictary? Bioware needs a new content writer. Image IPB


that they do, especially if hes another
whinning orange head man with the attitude and emotional state of an 11 year old.... boy

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I don't get your complaint tbh. We know NOTHING of the other new companions. If ALL of them are like Anders then you may have a point. And we even don't know if Anders is like that all the time or they just picked some of his funny stuff for the trailer. Maybe other companions are more like what you have in mind, but we dont know yet.



And his looks are fine by me. I use replace morphs for Leiliana, Morrigan and Sten .....it's just taste and opinion.

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Yeah, & just maybe his a new ahh "First Enchanter sibbling?!!?"

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Finiffa wrote...

I don't get your complaint tbh. We know NOTHING of the other new companions. If ALL of them are like Anders then you may have a point. And we even don't know if Anders is like that all the time or they just picked some of his funny stuff for the trailer. Maybe other companions are more like what you have in mind, but we dont know yet.

And his looks are fine by me. I use replace morphs for Leiliana, Morrigan and Sten .....it's just taste and opinion.


But for once that I like to have a character design I wouldn't want to change, well probably that impossible, Since everyone has their own preferences. But this is mainly towards Ander, I know a train wrack when I see one, people said the same thing about Dragon Ball Evolution, looked how that turned out. Maybe this is another Alistair, and the best is yet to come. Of course I could be wrong. I'm  just expressing my concerns. Though thank god for the toolset. I wont have to deal with the offspring lookalike of Duncan and Alistair. Seriously if Duncan and Alistair had a baby, it be Ander :pinched:

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NoAngel89 wrote...

Finiffa wrote...

I don't get your complaint tbh. We know NOTHING of the other new companions. If ALL of them are like Anders then you may have a point. And we even don't know if Anders is like that all the time or they just picked some of his funny stuff for the trailer. Maybe other companions are more like what you have in mind, but we dont know yet.

And his looks are fine by me. I use replace morphs for Leiliana, Morrigan and Sten .....it's just taste and opinion.


But for once that I like to have a character design I wouldn't want to change, well probably that impossible, Since everyone has their own preferences. But this is mainly towards Ander, I know a train wrack when I see one, people said the same thing about Dragon Ball Evolution, looked how that turned out. Maybe this is another Alistair, and the best is yet to come. Of course I could be wrong. I'm  just expressing my concerns. Though thank god for the toolset. I wont have to deal with the offspring lookalike of Duncan and Alistair. Seriously if Duncan and Alistair had a baby, it be Ander :pinched:


Only in looks. Otherwise I would think that Anders is a Morrigan-Alistair godbaby. 

I'm bolding that part, because it's what I'm talking to. The rest of what you said is tl;dr

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He looks like a very cool and funny companion to me... :)

I'm sure my evil mage character and Anders will see eye-to-eye on a lot of topic concerning the Circle of Magi, with the exception that he won't be too happy about her using blood magic hehe! ;)

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13eelzebub wrote...

NoAngel89 wrote...

Finiffa wrote...

I don't get your complaint tbh. We know NOTHING of the other new companions. If ALL of them are like Anders then you may have a point. And we even don't know if Anders is like that all the time or they just picked some of his funny stuff for the trailer. Maybe other companions are more like what you have in mind, but we dont know yet.

And his looks are fine by me. I use replace morphs for Leiliana, Morrigan and Sten .....it's just taste and opinion.


But for once that I like to have a character design I wouldn't want to change, well probably that impossible, Since everyone has their own preferences. But this is mainly towards Ander, I know a train wrack when I see one, people said the same thing about Dragon Ball Evolution, looked how that turned out. Maybe this is another Alistair, and the best is yet to come. Of course I could be wrong. I'm  just expressing my concerns. Though thank god for the toolset. I wont have to deal with the offspring lookalike of Duncan and Alistair. Seriously if Duncan and Alistair had a baby, it be Ander :pinched:


Only in looks. Otherwise I would think that Anders is a Morrigan-Alistair godbaby. 

I'm bolding that part, because it's what I'm talking to. The rest of what you said is tl;dr



yeah I'm pretty much talking about your comment right there<_<

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He seems alright. You might not like his looks or whatever, but that doesn't mean he won't be original or deep. And he is bolding your texts so you know exactly what he's replying to. I don't understand why you feel attacked by his bold texts.



Your whole comment about. 'I can probably do this' was unneccesarily arrogant in my opinion

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NoAngel89 wrote...

darrenr22 wrote...

NoAngel89 wrote...

Oh believe me I can create that if I wanted to. Its not that hard. I really wish they didn't include the ear ring. Looks too much like duncans hair. If you use they toolset, you can pull that hair off off the file and use it for other characters. And the shape face resembles Alistair. After you seeing it a second time, you're right I meant apostate. I could probably make a Ander Face morph.


I didn't say you couldn't. It just never occurred to me that there was anything wrong with the way the character looked. I don't have a problem with it.


Fine you don't but I do, it doesn't look original, everything seems like too cookiecut. Plus why do you feel the need to BOLD everything I say. I mean seriously, want you trying to prove.... that I can.... make a face morph..... of him.......?. Well the Morph model I would make would have his ear ring be the same color as his hair, I'll give the Ander model that originality. I proabably can't replicate that<_<


No need to get so touchy. The only reason I bolded that sentence was because that was the specific point I was responding to with my first sentence: "I didn't say you couldn't." I bolded a single sentence, which hardly constitutes bolding "everything". To be honest, I am mystified at the tone of your further response.

As for the response "Fine you don't but I do", well yeah. You made a point and I expressed a form of disagreement with your point. That's part of what such forum, discussions are for, right? I would suggest not starting a thread if you only want people to respond if they agree with you because that is never going to happen on any topic.

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MikeSunrider wrote...

He seems alright. You might not like his looks or whatever, but that doesn't mean he won't be original or deep. And he is bolding your texts so you know exactly what he's replying to. I don't understand why you feel attacked by his bold texts.

Your whole comment about. 'I can probably do this' was unneccesarily arrogant in my opinion


Well if you use the toolset, you would know. Tells me how much you know about modding. The Guy said he thought it couldn't be done. Since It had not even occurred to [Him] that he "looks like something a modder can create". So I stated I could probably do it, to state it was possible, thats not arrogant, arrogant is me telling you I'm better then you, because yout lack of knowledge of moding is apparent, compared to mine. From ducing from your comment. Ask other modder, they'll probably tell you they could replicate that face. Not only me.

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darrenr22 wrote...

NoAngel89 wrote...

darrenr22 wrote...

NoAngel89 wrote...

Oh believe me I can create that if I wanted to. Its not that hard. I really wish they didn't include the ear ring. Looks too much like duncans hair. If you use they toolset, you can pull that hair off off the file and use it for other characters. And the shape face resembles Alistair. After you seeing it a second time, you're right I meant apostate. I could probably make a Ander Face morph.


I didn't say you couldn't. It just never occurred to me that there was anything wrong with the way the character looked. I don't have a problem with it.


Fine you don't but I do, it doesn't look original, everything seems like too cookiecut. Plus why do you feel the need to BOLD everything I say. I mean seriously, want you trying to prove.... that I can.... make a face morph..... of him.......?. Well the Morph model I would make would have his ear ring be the same color as his hair, I'll give the Ander model that originality. I proabably can't replicate that<_<


No need to get so touchy. The only reason I bolded that sentence was because that was the specific point I was responding to with my first sentence: "I didn't say you couldn't." I bolded a single sentence, which hardly constitutes bolding "everything". To be honest, I am mystified at the tone of your further response.

As for the response "Fine you don't but I do", well yeah. You made a point and I expressed a form of disagreement with your point. That's part of what such forum, discussions are for, right? I would suggest not starting a thread if you only want people to respond if they agree with you because that is never going to happen on any topic.


It was a rant what did you think it was.

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Ok ya'll are right, it wasn't right to talk to ya dude, you weren't being rude, I get what ya mean.

Modifié par NoAngel89, 08 février 2010 - 01:29 .