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[urvashi]

I like what I've seen of Ander so far. I don't think a sense of humor is antithetical to the dark fantasy aspect of the story at all. It has a dark sense of humor, which is good. Just because Anders is an apostate being hunted by Templars doesn't mean he should necessarily be an emo cutter about it.

[pChar]

That noangel guy is probably the most annoying person i've seen on this forum.
If you want to rant about something/someone, then get your facts straight and be polite to other people on this forum.

[NoAngel89]

pChar wrote...

That noangel guy is probably the most annoying person i've seen on this forum.
If you want to rant about something/someone, then get your facts straight and be polite to other people on this forum.

If you weren't reading in the previous comment

Ok ya'll are right, it wasn't right to talk to ya dude, you weren't being rude, I get what ya mean.

Plus I've seen worse people on forums. In addition its mine forum. If you don't like what I have to say, then get off, and find another one. Jess

Modifié par NoAngel89, 08 février 2010 - 01:49 .

[diggerthedwarf]

Anders hates blood magic as much as the Chantry, which is the only thing that stopped him from being executed as a suspected maleficar. He just wants freedom from the prettied-up prison. He's an apostate, not a maleficar. And what's wrong with characters being a little humorous? Sure, it's a dark game, but there's always room for humor, even in dark times.

[NoAngel89]

diggerthedwarf wrote...

Anders hates blood magic as much as the Chantry, which is the only thing that stopped him from being executed as a suspected maleficar. He just wants freedom from the prettied-up prison. He's an apostate, not a maleficar. And what's wrong with characters being a little humorous? Sure, it's a dark game, but there's always room for humor, even in dark times.

Theres nothing wrong with it. I want just a balance of serious characters with humerous ones. have you read my comment. The majority of the party members are well funny as hell. but there aren't too many characters are like sten. Is that too much to ask. Or Wrong to ask or suggestion for? But I guess all you people want are comdeians now a days. I don't get too much of a serious vibe from them. Other Shale. Wynne, maybe alittle bit. Plus I know. Hes not a blood Mage.

Modifié par NoAngel89, 08 février 2010 - 01:50 .

[Lith Maethor]

Sten is by far the funniest character, if you bother talking to him... as for Anders, i am (very) slightly miffed that he has duncan hair... other than that, he looks like a fun char

[Saberdark]

How is "A modder could have made him" in any way a valid complaint? Using the toolset, you can make any human/elf/dwarf character head in the game. So yes, of course a modder could have made it.



We also know almost nothing about him, so I think it's a bit too soon for you to be judging him. Just because he likes to joke around doesn't mean he can't be a serious character. Different people react differently to danger. Could be his way of coping with it.

[DeadFOX LEP]

How do you know Anders isn't deep? Have you played Awakening yet?
If you actually bothered to talk to anyone in DA:O you would know that all the party members are deep.
I like bold.

[DeadFOX LEP]

Saberdark wrote...

How is "A modder could have made him" in any way a valid complaint? Using the toolset, you can make any human/elf/dwarf character head in the game. So yes, of course a modder could have made it.

We also know almost nothing about him, so I think it's a bit too soon for you to be judging him. Just because he likes to joke around doesn't mean he can't be a serious character. Different people react differently to danger. Could be his way of coping with it.

Darkspawn too.

[Wishpig]

You can easily tell from the minute long video he's going to be the worst character ever made (in comic guy voice)

DeadFOX LEP wrote...

How do you know Anders isn't deep? Have you played Awakening yet?
If you actually bothered to talk to anyone in DA:O you would know that all the party members are deep.
I like bold.

To be fair dog isn't deep. He makes up for it in ugly cuteness though.

Modifié par Wishpig, 08 février 2010 - 04:29 .

[MikeSunrider]

NoAngel89 wrote...

MikeSunrider wrote...

He seems alright. You might not like his looks or whatever, but that doesn't mean he won't be original or deep. And he is bolding your texts so you know exactly what he's replying to. I don't understand why you feel attacked by his bold texts.

Your whole comment about. 'I can probably do this' was unneccesarily arrogant in my opinion

Well if you use the toolset, you would know. Tells me how much you know about modding. The Guy said he thought it couldn't be done. Since It had not even occurred to [Him] that he "looks like something a modder can create". So I stated I could probably do it, to state it was possible, thats not arrogant, arrogant is me telling you I'm better then you, because yout lack of knowledge of moding is apparent, compared to mine. From ducing from your comment. Ask other modder, they'll probably tell you they could replicate that face. Not only me.

Yes cause calling your statement a unwarranted show of arrogance (Hai I am traying toh rahnt, I musst tellz skilllzorrz level) has alot to do with modding on a technical level. Stop attacking everyone cause they point out what's wrong about your conduct at the moment, you arrogant person.

Your posts reeks of your inability to apprehend the simple task of reading with understanding. I never said it was impossible to mod it, I found the fact you were proclaiming that you could easily do such a thing as downright arrogant and unnecessary and let's not forget unvalid to whatever claim you are trying to make.

Of course a modder can make it, cause the developers are using the same tools. What we're you expecting?

Modifié par MikeSunrider, 08 février 2010 - 04:39 .

[Giant ambush beetle]

SPOILER WARNING!

People afraid of Anders should remember than in DAO we have seen a  direct counterpart of each party member. As example Oghren and Sten, both two-handed warriors with a very different personality, a different race and look. Same with Allistair and Loghain, two very different characters with pretty much the same abilities. Same with Morrigan and Wynne. 

Now take Anders, he will also have a counterpart, I am pretty sure. 

[Wishpig]

The Woldan wrote...

SPOILER WARNING!

People afraid of Anders should remember than in DAO we have seen a  direct counterpart of each party member. As example Oghren and Sten, both two-handed warriors with a very different personality, a different race and look. Same with Allistair and Loghain, two very different characters with pretty much the same abilities. Same with Morrigan and Wynne. 

Now take Anders, he will also have a counterpart, I am pretty sure. 

With only five companions, I wouldn't bet on this.

[Giant ambush beetle]

I also dont think Bioware would make a 180° turn in game development strategy.

[BeautyoftheBeast]

I want to join in on the bold party! Bold bold bold bold boldy bold!

Anyways-- I think analyzing a 43 second trailer is totally a legit analysis of a character that we barely know about. But not really.

In other news-- Bioware does used the same body type and features for all their characters. This would not be a huge surprise if say, you played Dragon Age. I'm just saying. When Wynne and Morrigan have the same body traits, that generally could be a hint to most that all the characters will have the same design.

But maybe that's just me.

[David Gaider]

NoAngel89 wrote...
But for once that I like to have a character design I wouldn't want to change, well probably that impossible, Since everyone has their own preferences.

Gee... do you think?

[Demx]

This was pulled from an IGN interview.

"...Even though there are some similarities in terms of personalities to some of the Origins followers, they're all very different at the same time. I think it'll be very interesting to see. Originally when you meet some of the characters, because of their personalities, you may be predisposed to think: "this is an Alistair-character or this is a Sten-character." You'll be kind of surprised later on when it doesn't actually turn out like that. I think that the key is they are definitely as rich, or more so, in some cases, than the Origin characters."

http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1058656p2.html

In other words the new characters might pull something you wouldn't think that character would do, because you thought he was Alistair.

Modifié par Siradix, 08 février 2010 - 04:59 .

[errant_knight]

David Gaider wrote...

NoAngel89 wrote...
But for once that I like to have a character design I wouldn't want to change, well probably that impossible, Since everyone has their own preferences.

Gee... do you think?

LOL! Pretty much the only sensible thing I've read here. Wow, this thread really got out of hand, didn't it? Anyhoo, film, literature, and television are chock full of characters with a sense of humor dealing with dark situations. Some examples would be Angel, the brothers on Supernatural, and the main characters of too many detective novels to count. I welcome that myself, and probably wouldn't stick around if it wasn't there. If it weren't for the humor, it would be a grim slog. I was thinking about walking away from the game during my first playthrough when I met Alistair. I've never been so glad to hear a joke in my life.

[Spitz6860]

that would really depend on who the voice actor is,

[Sandtigress]

Really, I think Anders sense of humor makes perfect sense. He's escaped from the Tower seven times...the remarkable thing is that he's alive to do that seven times. ***Slight DA:O Spoiler*** Wynne's former apprentice Aneirin escaped once, and the templars hunted him down and nearly killed him. ***Spoiler over***

I think this says a few things about Anders. 1) He's probably an immensely talented mage, because the Circle seems to value him pretty highly to keep bringing him back. (Or has a potentially dirty little secret, but I don't like this theory so I'm going to ignore it.) 2) He's good at putting on a harmless front, and his hatred of blood mage is well known, otherwise the templars would just out-right kill him. His humor is probably one means by which he plays harmless, just like Alistair's is how he plays dumb and protects himself.

As far as a "generic" character look - almost all of the DA:O party members could be created using the standard character creator, or at least reasonable look-a-likes.  I remember someone's YouTube video where their PC looked almost identical to Anora, which was highly disturbing in an Alistair romance scene.  My HNF has strong similarities to Isolde, though thankfully without the accent!  If you're going to complain about Anders looking generic, complain about Alistair, Zevran, Leliana, Anora, Isolde, Eamon, etc. too.



Is it confirmed that Anders is from the Fereldan Circle of Magi? I just wonder why none of our mages know him if he is, though I suppose that since our mage characters start as apprentices, there's no reason they should know every mage in the Tower...

Modifié par Sandtigress, 08 février 2010 - 05:15 .

[axan22]

His look is fine and dont have a problem with him having a similar (only seen 30 sec clip) personality too alistair, but have to admit that i wasnt sure if it was him or alistair who was speaking, i hope he does have a different voice, played by a different actor etc, but untill i actually have the game and seen more than the 30sec clip then i cant really tell. looking forward to seeing more of the new characters and finding out what the new specializations they have.

[_Aine_]

Siradix wrote...

This was pulled from an IGN interview.

"...Even though there are some similarities in terms of personalities to some of the Origins followers, they're all very different at the same time. I think it'll be very interesting to see. Originally when you meet some of the characters, because of their personalities, you may be predisposed to think: "this is an Alistair-character or this is a Sten-character." You'll be kind of surprised later on when it doesn't actually turn out like that. I think that the key is they are definitely as rich, or more so, in some cases, than the Origin characters."

http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1058656p2.html

In other words the new characters might pull something you wouldn't think that character would do, because you thought he was Alistair.

I'm glad most people aren't as stuck in RL.   Can you imagine if we decided not to give someone new in your life a chance because they both had bathroom humour, cried when someone died, or had a snide sense of humour?    I can just see meeting someone new and whipping out a checklist " oops, I am sorry. I already have mildy-humourous, moderately attractive person in my history, do you have a modded version? "  

errant_knight wrote...
 Anyhoo, film, literature, and television are chock full of characters with a sense of humor dealing with dark situations. Some examples would be Angel, the brothers on Supernatural, and the main characters of too many detective novels to count. I welcome that myself, and probably wouldn't stick around if it wasn't there. If it weren't for the humor, it would be a grim slog. I was thinking about walking away from the game during my first playthrough when I met Alistair. I've never been so glad to hear a joke in my life.

Actually real life is full of them as well.  I have known many people in positions where they are exposed frequently to real life atrocities or at the very least great moments of human/animal suffering and many many do use humour to get through their days.  To a casual observer, or one who does not have to live this sort of life day in and day out, some of the humour could probably be considered ( sometimes accurately) inappropriate but life goes on and humour carries a good person sometimes through bad situations.  Sure, crying is normal, but you know so is laughing sometimes to get from one day to the next.  Whatever gets ya through the night  

Modifié par shantisands, 08 février 2010 - 05:35 .

[errant_knight]

shantisands wrote...

Siradix wrote...

This was pulled from an IGN interview.

"...Even though there are some similarities in terms of personalities to some of the Origins followers, they're all very different at the same time. I think it'll be very interesting to see. Originally when you meet some of the characters, because of their personalities, you may be predisposed to think: "this is an Alistair-character or this is a Sten-character." You'll be kind of surprised later on when it doesn't actually turn out like that. I think that the key is they are definitely as rich, or more so, in some cases, than the Origin characters."

http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1058656p2.html

In other words the new characters might pull something you wouldn't think that character would do, because you thought he was Alistair.

I'm glad most people aren't as stuck in RL.   Can you imagine if we decided not to give someone new in your life a chance because they both had bathroom humour, cried when someone died, or had a snide sense of humour?    I can just see meeting someone new and whipping out a checklist " oops, I am sorry. I already have mildy-humourous, moderately attractive person in my history, do you have a modded version? "  

He also has to be quite different from Alistair in world view by virtue of the things Anders has done. If Alistair was a mage, he'd be much closer to Wynne in outlook than Anders. There's a whole lot more to being like someone than hair color or sense of humor, and most of it has to do with personal values.

[Demx]

errant_knight wrote...

shantisands wrote...

Siradix wrote...

This was pulled from an IGN interview.

"...Even though there are some similarities in terms of personalities to some of the Origins followers, they're all very different at the same time. I think it'll be very interesting to see. Originally when you meet some of the characters, because of their personalities, you may be predisposed to think: "this is an Alistair-character or this is a Sten-character." You'll be kind of surprised later on when it doesn't actually turn out like that. I think that the key is they are definitely as rich, or more so, in some cases, than the Origin characters."

http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1058656p2.html

In other words the new characters might pull something you wouldn't think that character would do, because you thought he was Alistair.

I'm glad most people aren't as stuck in RL.   Can you imagine if we decided not to give someone new in your life a chance because they both had bathroom humour, cried when someone died, or had a snide sense of humour?    I can just see meeting someone new and whipping out a checklist " oops, I am sorry. I already have mildy-humourous, moderately attractive person in my history, do you have a modded version? "  

He also has to be quite different from Alistair in world view by virtue of the things Anders has done. If Alistair was a mage, he'd be much closer to Wynne in outlook than Anders. There's a whole lot more to being like someone than hair color or sense of humor, and most of it has to do with personal values.

Oh you know there are people out there, who want to find as many Alistairs out there as humanly possible.