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[StinkySQL]

I have no doubt that one CAN play through fast (and would challenge some of you to post the fasted time) but for me the game play is in the immersion of the story. ME1 clocked in at over 60 and I didn't finish every aspect. ME2 is getting close to 30 and I still have two team members to recruit before I go on with the main story line. For me it's a lot more fun being in the story and I savor it from scene to scene.

[thompsonaf]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

Taiko Roshi wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

The game is 40 hours long. Most games aren't half that.

I'm sorry but that is plain BS. Doing every mission, getting enough credits/resources for upgrades, exploring all dialogue options takes around 20 hours, if that, on sanity. DA:O is 40-60 hours long, ME 2 is lucky to clock in at 20. Even Borderlands has a longer playthrough and I thought that it was short.

Oh ok, you're a troll. Got it.

Mass Effect 2 has something like 16 hours of recorded dialogue in it. If you rush through every mission to pick up your party, skip through every dialogue, and do not do any loyalty or side quests, you're still looking at about 15 hours.

This is going to sound incredible. SurfaceBeneath...I agree with you. *world explodes*

[Thompson family]

Taiko Roshi wrote...

 If my memory serves me correctly about this time after the release of ME 1 I was still in the middle of finishing my first playthrough. With ME 2 I'm now half way through my second playthrough on insane. What happened to all the content?

You aren't spending hours converting junk to omnigel.

[Hizoka003]

my first play thought with 15 of the 19 N7 missions done no-one dieing on suicide mission was 19.5 hours...

[JaegerBane]

Taiko Roshi wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

The game is 40 hours long. Most games aren't half that.

I'm sorry but that is plain BS. Doing every mission, getting enough credits/resources for upgrades, exploring all dialogue options takes around 20 hours, if that, on insanity. DA:O is 40-60 hours long, ME 2 is lucky to clock in at 20. Even Borderlands has a longer playthrough and I thought that it was short.

I just love this kind of logic. I'm on my 40th hour and I've yet to do the IFF mission.

I'm only playing on normal, too, and I've only died once.

It never ceases to amaze me why people do speedruns of games and then complain that they're too short.

[jedierick]

It took me 36 hours my first playthrough, and I still have post "beat the game" N7 missions I did not complete. My second\\current playthrough it at around 24 hours, This time it wont take me as long cause I know my way around a little more. but whoever beats ME2 in less than 20- hours is rushing through all the dialog for sure.

[jeffindenver]

Taiko Roshi wrote...

 If my memory serves me correctly about this time after the release of ME 1 I was still in the middle of finishing my first playthrough. With ME 2 I'm now half way through my second playthrough on insane. What happened to all the content? I'm beginning to think that I have paid full price for half a game, and now EA/BW expect me to pay even more money for the other half of the game via DLC.

So, what happened to all the content?

Agree completely. When the game ended I said, "That's it!?"
It was no plot and all prologue. One serious encounter with the enemy for whom I spent a week recruiting the scum of the galaxy.

[Hizoka003]

jeffindenver wrote...

Taiko Roshi wrote...

 If my memory serves me correctly about this time after the release of ME 1 I was still in the middle of finishing my first playthrough. With ME 2 I'm now half way through my second playthrough on insane. What happened to all the content? I'm beginning to think that I have paid full price for half a game, and now EA/BW expect me to pay even more money for the other half of the game via DLC.

So, what happened to all the content?

Agree completely. When the game ended I said, "That's it!?"
It was no plot and all prologue. One serious encounter with the enemy for whom I spent a week recruiting the scum of the galaxy.

people are saying its so short now becasue of all th voice acting and what not... yet DAO is much mich longer looks every bit as good and is fully voice acted. People are just getting used to having less. I want another epic game that takes a long time to beat and complete. Hell WoW is not a fantastic game by any mean but still it takes over 100 hours to get to max level when you know everything about the game

[Mendelevosa]

Bioware did say that their DLC would largely expand ME2. If they really mean "largely", you could add at least 5-10 hours to whatever time it took you to complete the game.

Modifié par Mendelevosa, 08 février 2010 - 06:08 .

[sticks435]

jeffindenver wrote...

Taiko Roshi wrote...

 If my memory serves me correctly about this time after the release of ME 1 I was still in the middle of finishing my first playthrough. With ME 2 I'm now half way through my second playthrough on insane. What happened to all the content? I'm beginning to think that I have paid full price for half a game, and now EA/BW expect me to pay even more money for the other half of the game via DLC.

So, what happened to all the content?

Agree completely. When the game ended I said, "That's it!?"
It was no plot and all prologue. One serious encounter with the enemy for whom I spent a week recruiting the scum of the galaxy.

It's kind of funny too, because during the x-fire stream, somone asked if the game would be 90% recruting, and Bioware was like "nope, you have N7 missions and loyality missions etc". Ok, so that's the other 10%. :/

[Minouge]

Mass Effect 2 actually had more content if you ask me. It lasted me 48 hours before i beat it. Granted, a few of those hours were from mineral scanning, but evne then it waas longer than mass effect 1. I beat mass effect 1 at 20 hours with all missions and side quests. Big improvement.

[Schneidend]

jeffindenver wrote...

Agree completely. When the game ended I said, "That's it!?"
It was no plot and all prologue. One serious encounter with the enemy for whom I spent a week recruiting the scum of the galaxy.

So the ghost ship, IFF, and Horizon weren't serious encounters? Um, kay.


Also, there can't not be a plot. A "plot" is just a sequence of events. The game very clearly has a sequence of events. The term you're looking for is "plot-driven." Yes, Mass Effect 2 is not plot-driven, it is what is called "character-driven." Both are perfectly valid literary tools when constructing a story, it's just the former is more common.

[AtreiyaN7]

Hmm, first Taiko Roshi starts a thread entitled Are the over bloated cut-scenes and dialogue killing ME? in which he essentially complains that cutscenes/dialogue take up too much of the game, and now he's saying the game is too short? Smidge hypocritical there. You can click on the above link to see examples of his attitude and why I find his new argument even sillier than what he said in that thread. I'm going to guess that he skipped through anything and everything involving dialogue or story because he just wanted to get to the combat. Regardless of what he did/didn't do, it took me 36 hours or so the first time through, which is probably more than ME1.

** Edit: I probably hit 40 hours or close to it if you want to count finishing N7 missions after the main game.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 08 février 2010 - 06:22 .

[WizardD52986]

I don't consider running around for an hour on an empty planet trying to get on top of the gosh darn mountain to the damn anomaly to be content. ME2 might have fewer side quests, but they are more fun and much more rewarding. All the zones are smaller but they are filled with much more life, A'men for not spending 20 minutes going through all of your armor trying to find wtf you just picked up, is it better, worse than what you already head, then going through all the little upgrades for that piece of equipment, then going through each party member to see wtf they are using.

[Draconis6666]

ME 1 doesnt even HAVE Content exploring the same plant 30 times with the same or slightly different texture to find the exact same things and do a quest thats basicaly the same as every other quest in that its "go here and kill everything" is NOT CONTENT.

I can speed run ME 1 on insanity in 18-20 hours and complete the entire game with every side quest

ME 2 takes me that long just on veteran or hardcore unless i skip every single dialogue and cutscene


The only content that actualy exists in ME 1 are the plot worlds and the citadel which ammount to like 8 hours of the game if you speed run it

Modifié par Draconis6666, 08 février 2010 - 06:34 .

[Bigeyez]

A 100% completion of Mass Effect 1 on Insanity clocks me in at about 20-22 hours (after beating the game several times). A 100% completion of Mass Effect 2 on Insanity clocks me in at about 28-30 hours (after beating the game several times). Hm I guess you are indeed missing a disc, because my game definitely came with more stuff.

Edit: Oh I also forgot to mention that I've completed the main storyline of ME 1 on Insanity in 9-10 hours while the main storyline in ME 2 on Insanity took me about 19-20 hours. So again, yup you definitely must have gotten a broken disc. Take your game back to Gamestop, Broski.

Modifié par Bigeyez, 08 février 2010 - 06:40 .

[Stofsk]

This criticism is tiring. As most of the people here in this thread can attest to, ME2 is objectively longer than ME1. I just finished a playthrough of ME1 with a character I want to import, and it took me 20 hours. That's doing every side mission by the way. My first playthrough for ME2 is 33 hours, and I didn't even do all the N7 missions. Hell, I didn't even do most of them.



The problem I suspect, if you could call it a 'problem', is that ME2 is far, far better paced than ME1. Everything feels 'quicker' in ME2, but people are clocking in longer hours than they did in ME1.

[Chasedanger]

banshee768 wrote...

First playthrough, normal: 40h 22m according to my newest savegame.
Second playthrough, veteran: 35h 39m.

And this doesn't include reloading games due to death or messing up a quest. So add about an hour or so. In both games I've done everything possible. Explored every system 100%, done all side missions, upgraded everything and heard everything my crew has to say.

So how does one cut this time in half, I might wonder? Skipping dialog with seems like it would cut a few hours. Knowing the location of every quest and where it takes, to do them efficiently might also cut an hour. A cookiecutter build might also speed things up. But still... to cut 20 hours from a game lasting around 40. Is it worth doing all this things then? I mean, why play at all? It would be like watching Lord of the Rings: Extended Trilogy and skipping all the scenes that doesn't have combat...

I agree wholeheartedly. Meanwhile I played 1 and did every stinking sidequest and whatnot as well and finished up with 37 hours so they are about the same. Oh...wait...except I spent about 4 hours in part 1 putting different ammo in my guns and cycling through more meaningless inventory like 10-12 pickups of the same useless gun since only 2-3 people on the squad can even use one correctly and there arent even 10-12 people on the squad even if everyone could. Part 1 had alot of stuff to do that just was like time filler. With the exception of mining on this one, there is none of that. Part 1 had the equivalent which was driving around the mako trying to navigate cliffs and whatnot to find those same resources which netted you what? an achievement and some xp? yippeee!!! 2 has more meat to it. And before you flame me and say yeah go play modern warfare, I'm an RPG junkie and have played everything BioWare related except MDK2 and the PC only titles. And I've been playing RPGs from Phantasy Star series to Final Fantasy to Y's, Suikoden and beyond. This IS an RPG with shooting in it. The length is not supposed to be 100 hours because it is a game unlike those others where there is 1 or 2 endings and no choices but tons of choices to be made and various endings. They take in to consideration you may want to see multiple endings and experience the game a few times. Normal people with lives, familes, and jobs cannot play a damn game which takes 100-200 hours multiple times unless they devote their life to it. Hell I'm currently laid off and even I can't.

[ToJKa1]

My latest playtroughs on ME2 were about 20h long with AFAIK every sidequest completed. My latest playtrough of ME1 with again AFAIK all sidequests done was about 17h. And i do like playing ME2 more. ME2 sidequests are quite simple, go in, kill a bunch mercs, deal with the boss. But still the improved combat and skills and unique locations make it more fun than killing people in ME1's four copy/paste bases.



And i also miss Mako, i hope the Hammerhead is released soon.

[Annihilator27]

Taiko Roshi wrote...

 If my memory serves me correctly about this time after the release of ME 1 I was still in the middle of finishing my first playthrough. With ME 2 I'm now half way through my second playthrough on insane. What happened to all the content? I'm beginning to think that I have paid full price for half a game, and now EA/BW expect me to pay even more money for the other half of the game via DLC.

So, what happened to all the content?

Mass effect 1 i got 40hrs+ on 3 different difficulty playthroughs.
Mass effect 2 i clocked in at 54 hours for insanity and i havent saw everything. I did all the quests and uprgrades though.

[Fenris1981]

What is AFAIK supposed to stand for?

[yuncas]

Twas made into abominable e-mails, the content which you speak of.

[Traumacrazy]

Fenris1981 wrote...

What is AFAIK supposed to stand for?

...isn't it what that duck say on tv

AFAIK!!!

[mp84]

Fenris1981 wrote...

What is AFAIK supposed to stand for?

"As far as I know"

gotta love forum linguo.