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[aeetos21]

So I've seen this topic again and again on here, all sorts of crazy theories (some even spouted by myself) about why it won't work or maybe it's a bug or something. This latest theory I have though appears to make sense, I proved it on two of my characters so far (one was in a romance with Miranda and the other is a femshep so no attachments to either Jack or Miranda).

As always, timing is everything. So first a little history (please bear with).

I've seen several screenshots of people with high level characters and maxed paragon or renegade meters with inferno armor or the death mask and their character power designed for hundred percent persuasion bonus unable to solve the argument "peacefully." Still I remember on my first playthrough I had both options available (he was a paragade) but ****** me never bothered to make any real saves during that first playthrough.

With all this persuasion ability anyone of these characters should've been able to talk Harbinger to death and beat Mass Effect that way, so how come they couldn't solve the argument?

As mentioned, these were all high levels and people were usually trying to get their meters up high enough before attempting the fight. My theory, right now, suggests that the longer you wait to complete both side missions the more difficult it will be to solve that argument "peacefully" and to keep both loyal.

I did a VG runthrough and about halfway through the loyalty missions I saw my meter was pretty high (not maxed or anything) but still I decided to risk it. When I got to the argument I still wasn't at a hundred percent on either meter but I had the option available. Which made me look back at the screenshots of people with maxed persuasion skills and how they were unable to complete it. The only difference seemed to be timing.

Fast forward to fifteen minutes ago, taking my femshep soldier through on insanity I decided to try it again. This time the only loyalty missions I did were Zaed's and Miranda's before Subject Zero's. My meter was only in the 4th tier (80%) when I got to the argument again (much lower than what it was with my VG) but since I had only just started the loyalty missions the paragon option was available!

This is a theory right now but so far it's the only surefire way of keeping them both loyal to you. So if you're having trouble with this area try doing both missions early on with a fairly high paragon or renegade score. If it works? Then it's probably the fix to this "bugged" argument.

Okay, sorry for writing such a long post but I hope this helps some people out