From my point of view, as the player, I definitely want to choose Morinth in the confrontation between her and Samara, but I cannot come up with any in-game reason to justiy that choice.
On the one hand, you have a very power and loyal Asari Justicar who has sworn to obey your command. On the other hand you have a very powerful and unpredictable sex murderer who clearly cannot be trusted. Why on earth would you make that choice? I cannot come up with anything that doesn't turn my Shepard into a stupid, naive idiot. It would be okay I you could actually play Shepard as being extremely stupid and naive and incompetent, but since you can't, that doesn't feel right.
Can anyone come up with a good in-game reason that will justify choosing Morinth? A reason that a smart Shepard can use.
Why choose Morinth
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Taura-Tierno
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 01:51
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to quote the mass effect wiki
"If Shepard is mostly Renegade, Samara comments that if she wasn't bound to Shepard by the oath, their meeting would have ended in violence. Otherwise she simply says that if Shepard makes her do something that goes against her Code, she will kill the Commander after their mission is over."
So if you are a Renegade, the confrontation in the apartment is an ideal opportunity to dispose of a potential future adversary.
"If Shepard is mostly Renegade, Samara comments that if she wasn't bound to Shepard by the oath, their meeting would have ended in violence. Otherwise she simply says that if Shepard makes her do something that goes against her Code, she will kill the Commander after their mission is over."
So if you are a Renegade, the confrontation in the apartment is an ideal opportunity to dispose of a potential future adversary.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 01:53
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A serious reason: A heavily renegade Shepard would do alot of things that would push Samara's "kill them now for great justice!" buttons. It may not so much be about picking Morinth as about not having to watch your back around Samara, while still having the super biotic powers on tap.
A not so serious reason: Death sex fetish.
A not so serious reason: Death sex fetish.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 01:58
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My Ruthless Infilitrator FemShep saved Mornith for two reasons, one Samara had already threatened to have to kill me later, two she saw that Mornith's domination abilities (even though they failed on her) would be very useful against both the Collectors and the Mercenary groups she'd been facing.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 02:00
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All Asari look the same to Shepard, he forgets which one hes meant to be helping and then just guesses as it would be too embarrassing to ask.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 02:02
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I believe I didn't even have an option to choose Morinth, guess I wasn't renegade enough ;-)
But why would even a renegade Shepard pick her is beyond me (unless he's a moron ofc
). Having a sex murderer psychopath with biotic seduction skills around me wouldn't thrill me at all, renegade or not
But why would even a renegade Shepard pick her is beyond me (unless he's a moron ofc
). Having a sex murderer psychopath with biotic seduction skills around me wouldn't thrill me at all, renegade or not
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 02:04
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tangofish wrote...
A serious reason: A heavily renegade Shepard would do alot of things that would push Samara's "kill them now for great justice!" buttons. It may not so much be about picking Morinth as about not having to watch your back around Samara, while still having the super biotic powers on tap.
A not so serious reason: Death sex fetish.
But you'd still end up with the crazy murderer who might very well try to kill you (or your crew), or just bolt from the all-important mission
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 02:04
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tangofish wrote...
A serious reason: A heavily renegade Shepard would do alot of things that would push Samara's "kill them now for great justice!" buttons. It may not so much be about picking Morinth as about not having to watch your back around Samara, while still having the super biotic powers on tap.
This. Also if you choose Morinth you unlock both Dominate and Reave at the same time, but you only get Reave if you choose Samara.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 02:04
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Looy is correct, honest mistakes happen.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 02:23
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In NG+, I kept Morinth so she could run Heavy Domination 4 and Shepard could run Heavy Reave 4.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 02:40
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So how do you pick Morinth over Samara? On my second play through, and i'm about 90% renegade 10% Paragon. But I see no way to pick Morinth when Samara starts her attack.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 02:43
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Because a Renegade player's dubious morals doesn't really sit right with Samara. She said something along "If you keep acting dishonourably I will have to kill you once my oath to you is at an end" [Paraphrased].Taura-Tierno wrote...
Why on earth would you make that choice?
So choosing Morinth is, and the irony is not lost on me, for the purpose of survival.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 02:51
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A not so serious reason: Death sex fetish.
Or is it perhaps the most serious reason of all?
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 02:54
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What about actually believing Morinth? Believing that she represents the genetic destiny of the Asari, their future development? All you have to do is believe Morinth a little bit and disbelieve Samara a little bit and you can pull it off. (The player knows Samara is "good" and Morinth is "evil", but that doesn't mean the character has to.)Can anyone come up with a good in-game reason that will justify choosing Morinth? A reason that a smart Shepard can use.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 02:57
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Does Morinth have a loyalty quest or is she like auto loyal or anything like that?
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 03:01
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Draven2point0 wrote...
Does Morinth have a loyalty quest or is she like auto loyal or anything like that?
Recruiting her is the loyalty quest, she doesn't give you anything further. It's a little disappointing.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 03:02
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tangofish wrote...
Draven2point0 wrote...
Does Morinth have a loyalty quest or is she like auto loyal or anything like that?
Recruiting her is the loyalty quest, she doesn't give you anything further. It's a little disappointing.
Awww ok, I wouldn't mind going out and gettting her some.....friends to entertain in the ship. Hmmmm I wonder what Zaeed is doing........
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 03:06
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My renegade (Well, mostly gray neutral now) FemShep kept Samara.
I played through both scenes of the fight and Morinth pretending to be Samara just creeped me out.
I played through both scenes of the fight and Morinth pretending to be Samara just creeped me out.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 03:11
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I have the same problem recruiting Jack. None of my sheps (even my Renegon sheps) would EVER recruit her. The only way I can do it is by meta-gaming. She's not as crazy as she looks, but at the moment of recruitment my shep does not know that. This is the main reason I can't stand Jack. You really don't have the option to not take her (you have to go out of your way and get pretty creative to avoid it which also involves lots of meta-gaming.) I'm just pleased they gave me the option to turn Morinth down.
In short, no, I don't see an in-game reason for taking Morinth unless your shep is just a really mean/powerful sort who successfully resists her and then wants to keep her as a trophy.
In short, no, I don't see an in-game reason for taking Morinth unless your shep is just a really mean/powerful sort who successfully resists her and then wants to keep her as a trophy.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 03:17
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There is no good reason. She's an addict. Eventually crew-members would start disappearing.
Zaheed: "What are you doing down here asari?"
Morinth: "just venting some trash."
Zaheed: "mmm that cube looked a lot like yeoman chambers"
Zaheed: "What are you doing down here asari?"
Morinth: "just venting some trash."
Zaheed: "mmm that cube looked a lot like yeoman chambers"
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 03:19
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To try to hook her up with Jack obv.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 03:20
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a super powerful biotic who follows a moral code? ya, that's useful against collectors and reapers
a super powerful biotic with no moral code who can MELT YOUR BRAIN? now that's even more useful.
if you think of them as weapons against collectors and bad people in general, a crazy psycho sex murderer could be really useful. outside of that? keep her in grunt's tank or something so she doesn't mess with your crew. it's crazy... but insomnia does that to you...
a super powerful biotic with no moral code who can MELT YOUR BRAIN? now that's even more useful.
if you think of them as weapons against collectors and bad people in general, a crazy psycho sex murderer could be really useful. outside of that? keep her in grunt's tank or something so she doesn't mess with your crew. it's crazy... but insomnia does that to you...
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 03:22
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onidemon91 wrote...
a super powerful biotic who follows a moral code? ya, that's useful against collectors and reapers
a super powerful biotic with no moral code who can MELT YOUR BRAIN? now that's even more useful.
if you think of them as weapons against collectors and bad people in general, a crazy psycho sex murderer could be really useful. outside of that? keep her in grunt's tank or something so she doesn't mess with your crew. it's crazy... but insomnia does that to you...
she isnt gonna mess with the crew she is enjoying being by shepards side too much to risk it.... and the crew can handle themselves....
