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[Arrtis]

ALso you can romance Morinth to your own demise but cant romance SAMARA

Do it and die?Or dont.At least with morinth the option is there.

[Koralis]

NovaZero wrote...

It's about a scorpion and a frog...

... and Ardat Yakshi are sterile to begin with. A modified Genophage wouldn't do a great deal...

Edit: dammit. Ninja'd.

They may not be sterile... they may just kill all of their mates before the crucial point of DNA adjustment.  There's a minor difference.  If shepherd could survive the mating...

[lmc4lfe2]

NovaZero wrote...

It's about a scorpion and a frog...

... and Ardat Yakshi are sterile to begin with. A modified Genophage wouldn't do a great deal...

Edit: dammit. Ninja'd.

yes thats it! the scorpion rides the frogs back to get across the water then stings the frog and the frog was like "what the heck you do that for?!? Now we're both gonna die!" and the scorpion say's "It's what I do..."

[Axx Bytehoven]

The reason I kept Morinth... Shepard's Biotics restore faster than the squad. I want Shepard to use Heavy Reave 4 with faster restore. I want to bring Morinth to run Heavy Domination 4.

So far, I only have (1) dead crew due to Morinth selection... Jacob ...  I always knew he was a play'ya

Modifié par Axx Bytehoven, 09 février 2010 - 02:50 .

[lmc4lfe2]

Am I the only one who wants an Asari that isn't blue? I mean the green Asari (Thorian one) was the hottest Asari from ME1 (imo). and I thought Aria (with tattoos & voiced by Carie Ann Moss) was the best dressed & attituded Asari to date. I know alot of people felt she looked like a man, but I felt that her looks just helped to make her look like a crime boss or badass that could hold her own.

[Axx Bytehoven]

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<---   Shiala is the Feros Asari - She was my favorite until Aria/Aleena in ME2. I don't think Aria looks like a man.

Modifié par Axx Bytehoven, 09 février 2010 - 03:01 .

[Arrtis]

WHat about purple asari?like the one that gets controled by the rachni queen in ME1

[lmc4lfe2]

actually Axx I think Aria and Shiala are both equally hot. for a game anyway. I think they look better than Miranda. but after 2 playthroughs of ME2 Miranda is starting to look better. I still want a hot Asari on my squad. Liara & Samara/Morinth both lack the tatoos and each have freckles or some sort of skin blemishes. anyway heres hoping we get Aria as a squadmate for ME3. any idea how long i have to wait for ME3???

[Arrtis]

Morinth would follow you to fight the reapers because she likes it.

She wont get in your way no matter if your paragon or renegade.

She has the potential to be the most powerful biotic.

Thats enough reason to add her to your crew.

[Adon 9]

Just goes to show that if someone wants to, they can rationalize just about anything.

It isn't just Samara's word on it that ardat-yakshi are sterile... the codex also mentions it. I actually read that entry before Samara brought it up to me.

Morinth is a manipulator, and I definitely see her doing just that with Shepard. "Oh, I'm not bad, circumstance MADE me do it..." Basically, everything she says is to make herself seem more sympathetic and also builds up Shepard's ego. "Oh, YOU are different, YOU are strong willed you big hunk of awesome you!" Basically, she's just buttering Shepard up to lower their guard. I mean, she likely figures that if Shepard was dumb enough to kill Samara after being warned repeatedly about her, he/she is dumb enough to buy a good sob story/appeal to ego.

[NICKjnp]

Axx Bytehoven wrote...

The reason I kept Morinth... Shepard's Biotics restore faster than the squad. I want Shepard to use Heavy Reave 4 with faster restore. I want to bring Morinth to run Heavy Domination 4.

So far, I only have (1) dead crew due to Morinth selection... Jacob ...  I always knew he was a play'ya

If you bring her she kills your squadmates?

[NovaZero]

Adon 9 wrote...



Just goes to show that if someone wants to, they can rationalize just about anything.

It isn't just Samara's word on it that ardat-yakshi are sterile... the codex also mentions it. I actually read that entry before Samara brought it up to me.

Morinth is a manipulator, and I definitely see her doing just that with Shepard. "Oh, I'm not bad, circumstance MADE me do it..." Basically, everything she says is to make herself seem more sympathetic and also builds up Shepard's ego. "Oh, YOU are different, YOU are strong willed you big hunk of awesome you!" Basically, she's just buttering Shepard up to lower their guard. I mean, she likely figures that if Shepard was dumb enough to kill Samara after being warned repeatedly about her, he/she is dumb enough to buy a good sob story/appeal to ego.

Quite frankly I'm surprised people are willing to cast speculation when answers are readily available. All it needs is some light reading, seriously...



So, like... I'm not seeing how she's any bit of a stronger biotic.. Samara's just as strong, (and statistically I seriously doubt any small % cool down time will make the difference - and for that matter, an Adept Shepard is probably stronger anyway) and to use domination you'd need to have cut their shield/armor down to which point why bother when you can just finish 'em off, put 'em out of your mind and concentrate on shooting stuff rather than worrying about when the duration for the domination you so earnestly spent valuable time to cast on wears off only for them to become your problem again. Reave works on both synthetic AND organic targets; plus it takes them out of the fight.



And... actually if I remember correctly, Shiala's original color was purple as well. Regarding Samara's 3 daughters... she said that all three were Ardat Yakshi but when they are first diagnosed, they have to choose living in comfort or going on the run ... the only one who went on the run was Morinth. The Codex states that Ardat Yakshi who go on the run get added to a Justicar's hit list.

[Maj.Pain007]

Honestly I can't save Morinth because I can't stand the VA doing her voice. Its rather annoying so it makes the choice easy.

[Kreidian]

 If you can't figure out a good reason to get Morinth, then there simply won't be one that will be worth the trouble. In the end it's up to your own personal Shepard to decide the who and the why. 

There is sufficient reasons around if you look for them. Any way you look at it you have to be a pretty evil bastard to pick Morinth, but that doesn't mean you can't have sufficient cause to take that last step. 
At the simplest level, and it's a safe assumption that you're going all renegade, Samara will make it clear that she will kill you for your less then noble actions once the mission is done. Morinth, by contrast, will only kill you if you sleep with her, so long as you avoid that she's a safer alternative. Or at least that is what you might be thinking, Morinth will surely continue trying to manipulate you into bonding with her at some point.
Other then that Samara is tied too closely with her own code, her desire to destroy the collectors is more a matter of her code and a challenge to overcome, and less about actually wanting to save the galaxy. Morinth convictions may be more genuine, or they may not, it's up to you to decide.

Either way, make no mistake, Morinth is a psychopathic killer. She does not stop stop wanting to manipulate you into sleeping with you so she can kill you. She might have her own reasons, she may not want to actually kill you, but regardless what she says, the way she convinces you, it's all about feeding her addiction one way or the other.
That said there is certainly a level of sadness in her tale. She has been running all her life, persecuted from a very, very young age under the threat of death, all for the crime of being born. She never really had a choice in her condition, her only real choice was refusing a prison life. Even then she knows loving someone means killing them, and she will always be lonely as a result.

Even her mother explained it perfectly, Morinth is a tragic figure, but not a sympathetic one.

[TheLostGenius]

Taura-Tierno wrote...

From my point of view, as the player, I definitely want to choose Morinth in the confrontation between her and Samara, but I cannot come up with any in-game reason to justiy that choice.

On the one hand, you have a very power and loyal Asari Justicar who has sworn to obey your command. On the other hand you have a very powerful and unpredictable sex murderer who clearly cannot be trusted. Why on earth would you make that choice? I cannot come up with anything that doesn't turn my Shepard into a stupid, naive idiot. It would be okay I you could actually play Shepard as being extremely stupid and naive and incompetent, but since you can't, that doesn't feel right.

Can anyone come up with a good in-game reason that will justify choosing Morinth? A reason that a smart Shepard can use.

It unlocks the "Dominate" ability, which is mind control of organics. Also she is interesting to talk to, and you can have an interesting "death orgasm" with her.

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

TheLostGenius wrote...

Taura-Tierno wrote...

From my point of view, as the player, I definitely want to choose Morinth in the confrontation between her and Samara, but I cannot come up with any in-game reason to justiy that choice.

On the one hand, you have a very power and loyal Asari Justicar who has sworn to obey your command. On the other hand you have a very powerful and unpredictable sex murderer who clearly cannot be trusted. Why on earth would you make that choice? I cannot come up with anything that doesn't turn my Shepard into a stupid, naive idiot. It would be okay I you could actually play Shepard as being extremely stupid and naive and incompetent, but since you can't, that doesn't feel right.

Can anyone come up with a good in-game reason that will justify choosing Morinth? A reason that a smart Shepard can use.

It unlocks the "Dominate" ability, which is mind control of organics. Also she is interesting to talk to, and you can have an interesting "death orgasm" with her.

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Emos aren't interesting to talk to and it is debatable whether Shepard experienced pleasure while having a brain hemorrage or even if that pleasure was better than the pleasure you can get from say anything non-lethal.

[TheLostGenius]

Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

Taura-Tierno wrote...

From my point of view, as the player, I definitely want to choose Morinth in the confrontation between her and Samara, but I cannot come up with any in-game reason to justiy that choice.

On the one hand, you have a very power and loyal Asari Justicar who has sworn to obey your command. On the other hand you have a very powerful and unpredictable sex murderer who clearly cannot be trusted. Why on earth would you make that choice? I cannot come up with anything that doesn't turn my Shepard into a stupid, naive idiot. It would be okay I you could actually play Shepard as being extremely stupid and naive and incompetent, but since you can't, that doesn't feel right.

Can anyone come up with a good in-game reason that will justify choosing Morinth? A reason that a smart Shepard can use.

It unlocks the "Dominate" ability, which is mind control of organics. Also she is interesting to talk to, and you can have an interesting "death orgasm" with her.

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Emos aren't interesting to talk to and it is debatable whether Shepard experienced pleasure while having a brain hemorrage or even if that pleasure was better than the pleasure you can get from say anything non-lethal.

Well my fem shep started kissing her and she had this intense orgasm face then her eyes rolled up into the back of her head and she died.

[Arrtis]

We all have different views.When it comes to a video game world my views are gonna be different then if it were real.

I think having morinth would have its advantages as renegade as samara would probably kill you if you were renegade in ME3.

Just do not sleep with morinth and your set...its a game having self control should be a hell of a lot easier.

[Alex_Narciso]

Well, I see some reasons for choosing Morinth over Samara.
Samara blindly following strict moral code is not so much better than Morinth embracing her instincts. You could argue that Morinth is amoral beast and you are right, but is Samara much better?
She could kill bunch of innocent people just because the code said so. Even if her personal opinion was that she shouldn't do something, she will do it as the code dictates. That is a threat to Shepard who may follow completely different moral code. I really like Samara, but she's nonetheless a fanatic for me. I just hope she will start to question Justicar's code at some point.

On the other hand we have Morinth, the Ardat Yakshi who accepts her natural insincts and becomes serial murderer. She's manipulative, smart and powerful. Morinth is individual who tries to survive and takes the most from her life, I'm not going to blame her for that. She kills people, but I could argue that her victims are just weak or/and too naive and natural selection would eliminate them this or another way.
As for Shepard, if he/she can resist her mind control there's not much danger in keeping Morinth. Of course she will try to seduce Shepard, that's natural for her, but Shepard should just ignore it knowing about Morinth's ability to overload someone' s nervous system. I don't think she would try to defeat Shepard in a fight, too risky. After all those years Morinth knows well that it's better to avoid combat with too powerful person. And keeping Shepard as an ally is just much more beneficial.

They both kill, just one of them takes pleasure from that, other one pretends to do it in the name of justice and morality.

Modifié par Alex_Narciso, 27 novembre 2011 - 10:12 .

[tjzsf]

THe only real reason is if your Shep does too many things that Samara's code will make her kill you for. Better someone that might kill you once the mission's over than someone who will. Not to mention Morinth kills people by sexing them, since you were able to resist her enough to make the choice between her and Samara in the first place, her charms pose no threat to you, and presumably you'd space her if crew (well, if non-Cerberus crew) start going missing.

Other than that, there's really no in-game reason. Now, if you meta, on the other hand...Dominate's a pretty nifty power. And I hear if you time it right, you can assume direct control over Harbinger if you take a Collector drone right before he possesses it.

[Dr. Jacko]

She convinced an entire village to worship her as a goddess and bring her sacrifices. When Samara came after her, Morinth sent them all to their deaths just to buy her time to escape. That's not feeding an addiction, or being forced to kill to survive. That's just a perverted desire to subjugate and destroy.

I can see Morinth as a (rather short-sighted) tactical choice, but don't try to convince me she's not pure evil.