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[Nozybidaj]

Fizzeler wrote...

Well Bioware said they had 2 years if DLC planned with expansions like Awakening for Dragon Age, maybe Redemption is an expansion other than DLC?

It's my last remaining hope for ME2.

[Fizzeler]

Only my speculation and honestly I hope it is true, but it might be a bridge for ME3 as others have pointed out



For now time will tell

[morrie23]

Liara DLC needs to happen, as Picard would say... make it so.

[The BS Police]

Liara DLC needs to happen before Mass Effect 3 at the every least.

[Nozybidaj]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

The BS Police wrote...

Liara DLC needs to happen before Mass Effect 3 at the every least.

It will do, I don't think they'll leave Liara's plot in Redemption/ME2 in stasis until ME3.

I don't think so either.  I just hope it properly addresses the issues that are being discussed on the boards.

[Nozybidaj]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I think the backlash from people, and not just us die-hards, about the lack of romance acknowledgment will mean that BioWare will rectify it. I've seen a few people complain about it everywhere.

I feel like they have to do something via DLC and/or expansions to properly address the ME1 LI's, all of them, not just Liara.  It wouldn't be fair to those who stayed loyal to their ME1 LI to go into ME3 without doing something to to reconnect with these LI's and reestablish the relationship.

Otherwise going into ME3 folks with new LI's in ME2 get a very natural continuation of their romance while folks who stayed faithful to their ME1 LI are going to have to spend ME3 just trying to get their relationship back to where it was at the end of ME1.

[pashok7]

But will there be liara with us in the team? What do you think?

[Tasker]

I never did buy the whole... We didn't include the ME1 love interests in ME2 because they'e busy and we don't want them to die.

If that was the case then why allow romances in ME2 at all? 

Afterall, they can all die too.

Ashley/Kaiden not joining up because of working with Cerberus is pathetic - What about Jack, she has more reason to not work with Cerberus than they do, yet she still signs up.  Not to mention Tali, she's willing to work with a Geth and they're at war.

And Liara wanting revenge no matter how many years it takes - fat lot of good that'll do if the Reapers win.

Creating Love interest DLC would go one giant step to rectifying these situation as quite frankly the excuses given are total rubbish. 

[Movodor]

Because when they knew the ME1 LI's weren't going to be squadmates they also had something planned for 3, as has been said. I don't know about the ME2 LI's, they seem lesser somehow.

[Unato]

hmm regarding the pcc files, doesn't seem like there anything in them unless the same program i'm using just isn't working because i have the command line mixed up



other PCC files within cookedpc opens ok with very little work involved

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Orkboy wrote...

Creating Love interest DLC would go one giant step to rectifying these situation as quite frankly the excuses given are total rubbish. 

That's why I'm banking on there being Liara DLC, as the whole thing feels "unfinished", to say the least.

2nd part of a 3 part story with unfinished business. Wow really? I didn't know 3 part stories had to be finished in the 2nd act.

Sorry, are you really as thick as your statement proves you to be?

[Nozybidaj]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Orkboy wrote...

Creating Love interest DLC would go one giant step to rectifying these situation as quite frankly the excuses given are total rubbish. 

That's why I'm banking on there being Liara DLC, as the whole thing feels "unfinished", to say the least.

I want the second part of my three part romance back!

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Nozybidaj wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Orkboy wrote...

Creating Love interest DLC would go one giant step to rectifying these situation as quite frankly the excuses given are total rubbish. 

That's why I'm banking on there being Liara DLC, as the whole thing feels "unfinished", to say the least.

I want the second part of my three part romance back!

You mean the 2nd part which generally is the part where you lose the romance?

Just checking if you have any basic understand of general 3 part romances.

[Nozybidaj]

Unato wrote...

hmm regarding the pcc files, doesn't seem like there anything in them unless the same program i'm using just isn't working because i have the command line mixed up

other PCC files within cookedpc opens ok with very little work involved

Well I would assume the files are placeholder.  Its not surprising that there isn't anything in them yet.

[jlb524]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

You mean the 2nd part which generally is the part where you lose the romance?

Just checking if you have any basic understand of general 3 part romances.

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

2nd part of a 3 part
story with unfinished business. Wow really? I didn't know 3 part stories
had to be finished in the 2nd act.

Sorry, are you really as
thick as your statement proves you to be?

The problem is...the romance is never 'lost' nor does it go through difficult times.  It barely happens at all in ME2, besides one little awkward kiss.  That one little kiss is the only difference between playing a game with a Shepard that romanced Liara and one that did not.

These people understand the concept of a three part romance.  The second act is supposed to be troubled, of course.  The ME1 romance continuation wasn't even that...it was barely anything at all.

[bjdbwea]

Don't hold your breath. DLC is about milking the customers. It could be different, it could be a symbiotic relationship between industry and customers, but so far it isn't. It's all about minimizing the required work and time, maximizing the profit. Liara may very well be the quest giver (at least better than another email text box), but to invest work in something like the romance part, which only part of the customers will ever see, makes little sense with the described assumption. Would like to be proven wrong, of course, and in that case I might even buy the DLC, but right now you shouldn't put much hope into it. And don't forget that EA wouldn't want to "anger" those who pursued a different LI, lest they refuse to buy.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

jlb524 wrote...
The problem is...the romance is never 'lost'
nor does it go through difficult times.  It barely happens at all in
ME2, besides one little awkward kiss.  That one little kiss is the only
difference between playing a game with a Shepard that romanced Liara
and one that did not.

These people understand the concept of a
three part romance.  The second act is supposed to be troubled, of
course.  The ME1 romance continuation wasn't even that...it was barely
anything at all.

Some peoples opinion maybe. For me, my main Mass Effect Paragon Shep romanced Liara, he spoke to her on Ilium realised what she had gone through and accepted that the two had to deal with their own issues at the moment but is hoping that once it is all sorted he'll be able to get back to her to sort it all out.

I don't care if I have to wait until ME3 for that to happen because it is a 3rd act situation that it is moving towards (winning the LI back).

Adding it to the 2nd act (via DLC) is stupid.

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 14 février 2010 - 03:42 .

[Nozybidaj]

bjdbwea wrote...

Don't hold your breath. DLC is about milking the customers. It could be different, it could be a symbiotic relationship between industry and customers, but so far it isn't. It's all about minimizing the required work and time, maximizing the profit. Liara may very well be the quest giver (at least better than another email text box), but to invest work in something like the romance part, which only part of the customers will ever see, makes little sense with the described assumption. Would like to be proven wrong, of course, and in that case I might even buy the DLC, but right now you shouldn't put much hope into it. And don't forget that EA wouldn't want to "anger" those who pursued a different LI, lest they refuse to buy.

I suppose, but I would like to think that BW realizes the mistakes they made, I even suspect they may have made them on purpose to drive the desire for a big Liara/SB expansion that wil include the appropriate romance content for a true second chapter.  DA:O Awakenings may show how far they are willing to go with DLC/Expansions.

I also think, just from a parity stand point that they have to resolve these issues at some point prior to ME3 just to get all the LI's, those from ME1 and ME2 back on equal footing.  It wouldn't be fair to ME1 LI lovers to not only remove the middle act of the romance but also make you spend all of ME3 just trying to get back to where you were at the end of ME1 when all the ME2 romances will have a very natural progression into ME3.  They need to do something to resolve the conflicts and let the romances continue and have actually have a second chapter before we move into the third.

That is my entirely over optimistic side thinking BW actually still cares about these LI's and their fans, though ME2 does a good job of proving me wrong.

[Nozybidaj]

jlb524 wrote...

The second act is supposed to be troubled, of course.  The ME1 romance continuation wasn't even that...it was barely anything at all.

If the second part of a romance story is supposed to be troubled, and ME2 was the first part of the romance for all the new ME2 LI's shouldn't that mean the ME3 is the "troubled" part for those romances?  People are gonna freak when Miranda and Tali get cameo'ed.