394 réponses à ce sujet

[Crimmsonwind]

Maviarab wrote...

At best imo....she will 'appear' in 'a' DLC...but it wont be 'her' dlc....

You're probably right. But you don't have to be such a jerk about it.

[jlb524]

Maviarab wrote...

At best imo....she will 'appear' in 'a' DLC...but it wont be 'her' dlc....

This is all I've ever expected.  It's just easier to call it 'Liara DLC' b/c we have nothing better to call it, atm (if it even exists or will exist).

Plus, the files say 'LiaraDLC' so we just stuck with calling it that.

[Lightice_av]

Please tell me your intelligent enough to see this?

Oh yes. I was rather sceptic too, and I'm still far from being absolutely convinced, but there has been some dev comments that imply a Redemption-based DLC. We shall see. But as I said, I don't believe in Liara becoming a squadmate or anything, just possibly a mission giver in a DLC.

[Seanylegit]

I hope it's not one of those 5 dollar DLCs you beat in an hour. :[

[Nozybidaj]

Lightice_av wrote...

Please tell me your intelligent enough to see this?

Oh yes. I was rather sceptic too, and I'm still far from being absolutely convinced, but there has been some dev comments that imply a Redemption-based DLC. We shall see. But as I said, I don't believe in Liara becoming a squadmate or anything, just possibly a mission giver in a DLC.

What would be the point in having a "redemption" expansion and not having Liara be the prominent figure in it?  I'd hope BW has the foresight to plan it to be based with Liara and Shep doing the missions and figuring out whatever it is they have planned for them to figure out.  Why would anyone from the current squad care enough about the whole thing to bother getting off the ship?  In fact I hope they don't.

Modifié par Nozybidaj, 10 mars 2010 - 09:36 .

[Crimmsonwind]

I'm sure BioWare's got something planned, we'll just have to sit back and hope it's not another Bring Down the Sky-style DLC...

[Barquiel]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

I'm sure BioWare's got something planned, we'll just have to sit back and hope it's not another Bring Down the Sky-style DLC...

I think Bring Down the Sky wasn't that bad (compared to pinnacle station)

[screwoffreg]

Well, it is clear that originally in ME 2 you were supposed to help Liara deal with the Shadow Broker, as hidden dialogue indicates. It sounds like they did a major rewrite of that though before release and it looks like they are saving that issue for some sort of DLC. The initial premise of Liara's role, that she would help you with the Collectors AFTER becoming the Shadow Broker herself makes less sense in the current game as you can make the Collector's EXTINCT without ANY input from her at all. So it steals some of her thunder, if they are sticking to the old plan...

Modifié par screwoffreg, 10 mars 2010 - 09:53 .

[Crimmsonwind]

Barquiel wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

I'm sure BioWare's got something planned, we'll just have to sit back and hope it's not another Bring Down the Sky-style DLC...

I think Bring Down the Sky wasn't that bad (compared to pinnacle station)

Ugh. You're right, that was worse. They were both so short, that was my main problem. I like story with my games and DLC, not tacked on missions. >.>

[Lightice_av]

What would be the point in having a "redemption" expansion and not having Liara be the prominent figure in it?

Prominent yes as in having a lot more dialogue and central place in the DLC's plot, but I still don't see her as a squadmate even in it.

I also don't believe that the Shadow Broker will be caught just in this DLC. It's optional, after all, and there has to be something left for ME3 in this subplot. I suspect that you just nab some lieutnant of his, even if your goal is to catch him in person.

[screwoffreg]

Also if Liara becomes Shadow Broker it pretty much nixes the chance for her to EVER be a squad member. A developer mentioned in an interview that people get too caught up with whether or not people can be squad members and that they can still be critical to the story without being on your team. That would mean there would be no Asari biotic on the squad in ME 3, as Samara says she is leaving after the Collectors are gone. Maybe Shiala? Or even better, the Asari Matriarch Bartender who suits up one last time, lol.

Modifié par screwoffreg, 10 mars 2010 - 09:57 .

[javierabegazo]

Why do people assume she'll be a squad mate? The reason for her NOT being recruitable in the first place is so that she lives on for ME3 as cannon. The DLC concerning her is probably something to do with her Shadow Broker hunt

[Crimmsonwind]

screwoffreg wrote...



That would mean there would be no Asari biotic on the squad in ME 3, as Samara says she is leaving after the Collectors are gone. Maybe Shiala? Or even better, the Asari Matriarch Bartender who suits up one last time, lol.

Oh man, that would be so awesome. XD She would have the best dialogue ever... There would have to be some line about quads in there somewhere.

[screwoffreg]

Yeah, I think it would be a neat change to have a NON squad romance, like Liara, and try to keep that connection strong in ME 3. I would imagine you'd keep in touch via letters, emails, holovists, etc that would make it more like a real "girl waiting for you back at home" sort of thing. It is clear she is one of the most important characters in the game and will probably continue to be so in ME 3. Only a few other characters are invincible like she is and even Miranda, who is notoriously hard to kill on the last mission (unless you are trying to, like an ass) can die.

Modifié par screwoffreg, 10 mars 2010 - 10:06 .

[Crimmsonwind]

screwoffreg wrote...

even Miranda, who is notoriously hard to kill on the last mission (unless you are trying to, like an ass) can die.

Uh... *ahem* I'll just ah, go stand over there. Waaaay over there.

[screwoffreg]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

even Miranda, who is notoriously hard to kill on the last mission (unless you are trying to, like an ass) can die.

Uh... *ahem* I'll just ah, go stand over there. Waaaay over there.

lol, why do you try to kill one of the most important characters in ME 2?  Yvonne Strahovski herself?  Chuck would be very disappointed, mate.

[mortons4ck]

It would be awesome if the ME2 expansion pack was built around Liara and the Shadow Broker.

[Crimmsonwind]

screwoffreg wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

even Miranda, who is notoriously hard to kill on the last mission (unless you are trying to, like an ass) can die.

Uh... *ahem* I'll just ah, go stand over there. Waaaay over there.

lol, why do you try to kill one of the most important characters in ME 2?  Yvonne Strahovski herself?  Chuck would be very disappointed, mate.

Initially, she just rubbed me the wrong way. So on my first play-through I was determined to kill her (I failed and reloaded a few times, killing everybody BUT her -.-). But admittedly she did kinda grow on me after the second time through. Now she's tolerable.

[screwoffreg]

It is so damn hard to kill Miranda and have Shepard survive anyway. She is one of the critical hands that can pull him up, so its really self defeating to get rid of her. You don't hire a TV actress like her VO actress just want her to be in one game anyway, so I imagine she stays on the squad in ME 3 (she is first mate, after all...in possibly more ways than one *wink*).

[Sigilius]

All it would take for BioWare to reaffirm my undying affections for them is this:

1) Relase the DLC in a reasonable amount of time following the completion of your comic. I understand this little business venture into Dark Horse media. We've bought your work. Pat yourselves on the back, you've made a quick buck off the affections of Liara fans.

2) Make it more than just a "Hack these terminals, shoot these mercenaries in this warehouse," number. A little more depth, please.

3) Have bloody brilliant dialogue with Liara. I know you can't make her a party member until ME3 (Which you will!), but at the very least give me an expansive dialogue tree to explore with. I'm dying to talk to her... well, at all!

4) Finally, and most importantly, in a if-you're-going-to-blow-me-off-otherwise kind of way, acknowledge their relationship if she was your LI! We want a little something more for having romanced her! More than just that awkward kiss (I know you were trying to portray her guilt over giving him up to Cerberus). Can we actually just, I don't know, talk to her about the relationship like mature adults? Discuss it at length? If she can give us this Shadow Broker mission, I think she should be able to at least TALK to us, openly, for ONCE.

That's it. I have faith in you as writers. And I understand your desire to savage the content's of my wallet, but I'll pay for your efforts. We all will. Just give us what we want!

Modifié par Sigilius, 13 mars 2010 - 02:57 .

[Crimmsonwind]

Well spoken, Sigilius.

[Derumiel]

Nice statement Sigilius.

I totally agree.

[Lost-brain]

Totaly agree with Sigilius.