Stoko981 wrote...
So to answer your only concern, if the above was a bit tl;dr, if we tie up a whole lot of stuff in DLCs for ME2, ME3 will be a much better game.
Stoko981 wrote...
The best possible scenario I can think of would be a seperate mission in which you play as Liara. Something after the comics, but before Shepard's resurrection. Give her her own ship to roam the galaxy in, let it consist of a couple of main missions and a few sidequests/assignments. And any unique gear (armour/weapons) you find could turn up on the Normandy when you next reload your normal ME2 game. Say with an email from Liara saying "Picked this up a while ago, thought it might help" or something along those lines.
They'd even have an easy way of doing it - add Liara as an option to the career screen. When you start a new game, and you can choose to be a standard John Shepard or a custom one, add Liara to that list to allow you to start a Liara DLC playthrough, which could act as a seperate career. If they wanted it to be even more awesome, they could allow you to then import an ME1 file, to set various little universe details - who lived, who died, romance, etc.
I doubt it'll be that good. On the flipside, the absolute worst thing I can imagine would be some pointless mission in your main game, that you activate by visiting Liara again in her office. Go off and do this for me Shepard, then come back, we'll have a little conversation, and that's your DLC. That would utterly suck, no matter what the mission was. I really hope it isn't that bad, but you never know.
The way I see it, if they actually did implement it the way I laid it out, the status of your ME2 playthrough would be irrelevant. The only potential crossover would be any equipment you earned during your Liara playthrough, which they could have carry over to any Shep career you load. It'd be the best way to manage it, if the mission was entirely seperate from the main game (i.e. set in a time period nearly two years earlier, with a different playable character, Liara) to treat it as such. Start a new game, select Liara as the character you're going to play as, and play her campaign through. On completion, any equipment could become available to all other Shepards on that console/PC.Daeion wrote...
Stoko981 wrote...
The best possible scenario I can think of would be a seperate mission in which you play as Liara. Something after the comics, but before Shepard's resurrection. Give her her own ship to roam the galaxy in, let it consist of a couple of main missions and a few sidequests/assignments. And any unique gear (armour/weapons) you find could turn up on the Normandy when you next reload your normal ME2 game. Say with an email from Liara saying "Picked this up a while ago, thought it might help" or something along those lines.
They'd even have an easy way of doing it - add Liara as an option to the career screen. When you start a new game, and you can choose to be a standard John Shepard or a custom one, add Liara to that list to allow you to start a Liara DLC playthrough, which could act as a seperate career. If they wanted it to be even more awesome, they could allow you to then import an ME1 file, to set various little universe details - who lived, who died, romance, etc.
I doubt it'll be that good. On the flipside, the absolute worst thing I can imagine would be some pointless mission in your main game, that you activate by visiting Liara again in her office. Go off and do this for me Shepard, then come back, we'll have a little conversation, and that's your DLC. That would utterly suck, no matter what the mission was. I really hope it isn't that bad, but you never know.
Would definately be intereting but how would you work it with ME2 play throughs that you've already completed? Would you make them import again and run a completely new game?
AceTrilby101 wrote...
Agreed. No more 'N7' quests. The only one that stands out to me was the one on the ship suspended over a chasm - seriously BioWare, we love you guys, but please get your finger out!
If Rockstar were able to make a massive DLC experience for GTA IV (almost the size of an entirely new game) then BioWare should be able to make something similar - but with more emphasis on quality over quantity.
Come on BW, you can do better than Rockstar can't you?? 
VanTesla wrote...
I would love to play as Liara for a few missions for her past story finding Shepard.
Then some missions that help Liara get the Shadow Broker after you beat the game.
Driveninhifi wrote...
I think it would be really tough to let you play as Liara in the timeframe between ME1 and 2.
Mass Effect is really about player choice, but her story is very set. There are already many valid complaints about her presentation in ME2 - imagine if the player gets to influence what she went through. It would be too easy to go things that don't make sense. There are plenty of people that would want to play in a way that would make her portrayal in ME2 completely inconsistent (not that it's very consistent as it, but you could completely break it if the player is making all the decisions).
Now, they could remove player decision-making in her story, but that's not really Mass Effect then....
Daeion wrote...
Driveninhifi wrote...
I think it would be really tough to let you play as Liara in the timeframe between ME1 and 2.
Mass Effect is really about player choice, but her story is very set. There are already many valid complaints about her presentation in ME2 - imagine if the player gets to influence what she went through. It would be too easy to go things that don't make sense. There are plenty of people that would want to play in a way that would make her portrayal in ME2 completely inconsistent (not that it's very consistent as it, but you could completely break it if the player is making all the decisions).
Now, they could remove player decision-making in her story, but that's not really Mass Effect then....
Mass Effect is an entire galaxy and it's already been said that they want to do games outside of the original trilogy so it's very possible that we could see different types of games coming out. I think most people would be fine playing her through as a char where we don't decide how she views and reacts the world, they just need to have a good story for getting her from the end of the comics to her current point in ME2.
Garuda One wrote...
Could you guys see if anything involves DLC and Shadowbroker? My bet is we help her with him
Awesome Helmet wrote...
holy crapballs. having DLC related to liara, wrex, more of verner, SHIALA, thatd be awesome. id be into that prolly more then finding out what happens to the reapers. lets save that for ME3. letus bang more aliens girls until then.
Nozybidaj wrote...
Daeion wrote...
Driveninhifi wrote...
I think it would be really tough to let you play as Liara in the timeframe between ME1 and 2.
Mass Effect is really about player choice, but her story is very set. There are already many valid complaints about her presentation in ME2 - imagine if the player gets to influence what she went through. It would be too easy to go things that don't make sense. There are plenty of people that would want to play in a way that would make her portrayal in ME2 completely inconsistent (not that it's very consistent as it, but you could completely break it if the player is making all the decisions).
Now, they could remove player decision-making in her story, but that's not really Mass Effect then....
Mass Effect is an entire galaxy and it's already been said that they want to do games outside of the original trilogy so it's very possible that we could see different types of games coming out. I think most people would be fine playing her through as a char where we don't decide how she views and reacts the world, they just need to have a good story for getting her from the end of the comics to her current point in ME2.
While I could see the attraction in it I don't want that as my Liara ME2 DLC. Gimme a long quest line with good story to take on the Shadow Broker, help Liara with her problems to get her back to her old self, and reaffirm the romance so that we are good to go come ME3 to take on the reapers and see some actual development in the relationship.
If I have to spend all of ME3 just to get the relationship with Liara back to where it was at the end of ME1 the entire last two thirds of the trilogy will have been a total waste for my Shepard.
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jlb524 wrote...
Garuda One wrote...
Could you guys see if anything involves DLC and Shadowbroker? My bet is we help her with him
I finally got to check this out.
There are no fiiles with 'DLC' and 'Shadowbroker' now. There are three dlc files for the Normandy crash site, one dlc file for the 'Veteran' (Zaeed), one dlc file for the 'Thief' (Kasumi), and two Liara dlc files. I just did a search for 'dlc' on the CookedPC folder and got these.
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jlb524 wrote...
Garuda One wrote...
Could you guys see if anything involves DLC and Shadowbroker? My bet is we help her with him
I finally got to check this out.
There are no fiiles with 'DLC' and 'Shadowbroker' now. There are three dlc files for the Normandy crash site, one dlc file for the 'Veteran' (Zaeed), one dlc file for the 'Thief' (Kasumi), and two Liara dlc files. I just did a search for 'dlc' on the CookedPC folder and got these.
well maybe the ones with Liara will include the Shadow Broker in some way or another.
Garuda One wrote...
Thanks for looking
DuffyMJ wrote...
If you're going to make a separate play-as-Liara campaign, then I say you also ought to have a play-as-Udina campaign. Roam the galaxy in a diplomatic shuttle and instead of N7 missions you have "This is an outrage!" missions where you land and work your magic political charisma on slave traders and merc groups. Your main power skill would be the "fish-clench" where Udina clenches his fists and says "Send your fleet in!" and then the citadel fleet bombards the baddie from orbit.
SE JN wrote...
I'm hoping that by the end of the Liara DLC, she will chill on our Normandy, even if she isn't a squaddie. Maybe she can be injured? so she just takes up residence and is "unavailable" for combat until ME3? This would take place after the suicide mission, will keep her from having to be built for the game, will give players a chance to interact with her and fix her appearance/disappointing cameo.
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