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#176
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Mossa_missa wrote...

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I'm hoping that by the end of the Liara DLC, she will chill on our Normandy, even if she isn't a squaddie. Maybe she can be injured? so she just takes up residence and is "unavailable" for combat until ME3? This would take place after the suicide mission, will keep her from having to be built for the game, will give players a chance to interact with her and fix her appearance/disappointing cameo.


I know a better place. In you bed. Wearing your pants... Or simply yust hang out in your room.


Liara can totally chill in the Captain's quarters. :wub:

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General Stubbs wrote...

Another indicator to the SB/<3Liara romance<3 DLC actually being created could be that SB agent in ME1.
Anyone remember (of course you all do:D) the SB agent that depending on if you gave him information regarding cerberus, said that the SB will remember the choice you made next time you need something?
That may have an effect on the Liara DLC.



Lol, had to do a double take. I read that first as "Shadow Broker / Liara romance"... Image IPB

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StolenThunder wrote...

Need want NOW.


I don't have anything to add to that ^_^

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Systemlord Baal wrote...

StolenThunder wrote...

Need want NOW.


I don't have anything to add to that ^_^



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Stoko981 wrote...

Heck, there were only 21 N7 missions in the game, and you know how short each of those can be. It was mostly helping people with their personal stuff, and it had no consequence to the overall plot. Character building is great, but it shouldn't be the whole game.


Oh I wouldn't say that about all the loyalty missions.  By helping Tali you might be gaining the Flotilla's allegiance in ME3.  Same thing with Legion and the 'non-heretical' Geth.  Same thing with Grunt and clan Urdnot (provided that Wrex survived ME1).  And if you told Mordin to save the genophage cure research data instead of destroying it, it could be possible that a virile Krogan army could be raised in less time.  All of these could possibly help defeat the Reapers.


--edit for typo.. these forums don't work with the built-in spellcheck in Firefox. <_<--

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Has anyone had another look through the Liara DLC files? Did anyone see anything with regards to dialogue?



Sorry, I just can't bloody wait. I'm going through Liara withdrawal, heh. :)

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Has anyone had another look through the Liara DLC files? Did anyone see anything with regards to dialogue?

Sorry, I just can't bloody wait. I'm going through Liara withdrawal, heh. :)


Aren't we all? I'm nearly to the point of writing absolutely dreadful Shepard/Liara fluff fiction. x_x

#183
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StolenThunder wrote...


Aren't we all? I'm nearly to the point of writing absolutely dreadful Shepard/Liara fluff fiction. x_x


Whoa, whoa, whoa, lets not do anything crazy here! :P

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Nozybidaj wrote...

StolenThunder wrote...


Aren't we all? I'm nearly to the point of writing absolutely dreadful Shepard/Liara fluff fiction. x_x


Whoa, whoa, whoa, lets not do anything crazy here! :P


I've read some good ones actually. Although they're not pure fluff.

Of course all of them are now AU.

*realises he has just admitted to this, hides* :ph34r:

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Luced0 wrote...

speeking of liara and dlc and info, I did notice something lacking from ME2. If liara was your Love intrist and you joined with her. it's bin 2 years shouldnt she have had a duaghter / sheperds duaghter. something that maybe should be adressed I think. becouse didnt the beacon and / thorian girl give shepred the entire genetec memory of the protheans (thats what they say) so when liara joined with shepered the off sprinf would have the gentic memory of humans and protheans and asari. the child could be very important to the story and bioware just sorta ignored that whole plot point that was such a signi****ant factor in the romance of Liara.


Do we actually know how Asari conception works? 

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Systemlord Baal wrote...

StolenThunder wrote...

Need want NOW.


I don't have anything to add to that ^_^


I do....

StolenThunder wrote...

Need want NAO.


There.

Othewise, agreed.

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Daeion wrote...

Luced0 wrote...

speeking of liara and dlc and info, I did notice something lacking from ME2. If liara was your Love intrist and you joined with her. it's bin 2 years shouldnt she have had a duaghter / sheperds duaghter. something that maybe should be adressed I think. becouse didnt the beacon and / thorian girl give shepred the entire genetec memory of the protheans (thats what they say) so when liara joined with shepered the off sprinf would have the gentic memory of humans and protheans and asari. the child could be very important to the story and bioware just sorta ignored that whole plot point that was such a signi****ant factor in the romance of Liara.


Do we actually know how Asari conception works? 


Can't they choose to get pregnant? If so, what an incredibly convenient species.

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Mighty_BOB_cnc wrote...

Stoko981 wrote...

Heck, there were only 21 N7 missions in the game, and you know how short each of those can be. It was mostly helping people with their personal stuff, and it had no consequence to the overall plot. Character building is great, but it shouldn't be the whole game.


Oh I wouldn't say that about all the loyalty missions.  By helping Tali you might be gaining the Flotilla's allegiance in ME3.  Same thing with Legion and the 'non-heretical' Geth.  Same thing with Grunt and clan Urdnot (provided that Wrex survived ME1).  And if you told Mordin to save the genophage cure research data instead of destroying it, it could be possible that a virile Krogan army could be raised in less time.  All of these could possibly help defeat the Reapers.


--edit for typo.. these forums don't work with the built-in spellcheck in Firefox. <_<--

Very true, you're right, I didn't mean to say the loyalty missions had no consequence to the trilogy's overall plot. I'm sure (or at least I hope) that such things will be brought back in ME3 in a good way. I meant they had no consequence to the game's overall plot. I mean there was what, the intro level in the Lazarus facility, Freedom's Promise, Horizon, the Collector ship, the Derelict Reaper, and the Collector base. That's the game's main plot. Six main plot levels. Compared to Eden Prime, Therum, Noveria, Feros, Virmire, Ilos and the Citadel On Fire. Those seven levels were, and I know it's just my opinion, but IMO they were miles better than ME2's six.

So to compensate for the relative lameness of the main plot, they had to pad it out. So they did, with eight character recruitment missions and eleven character loyalty missions. Which were great, honestly, I really enjoyed them. But it is the majority of the game, and it feels like it shouldn't have been. It feels like there should have been... more. It's almost like the Collector threat pales into insignificance compared to the idea of making friends and fixing their lives. In ME1 you started off with one permanent squad member, grabbed a second during the tutorial mission, then snagged three more while bopping about the Citadel. Then you made a quick pitstop at an archeological dig to save a blue damsal in distress, and your team was complete. From there on out, it was time to save the galaxy.

There was still character development. I loved the conversations I could have with my crew inbetween missions. And the missions? I didn't do them for "loyalty", my crew were committed to my cause anyway. I did them because I could. Because I was asked to, if we had time. It's not like they were difficult or time consuming - take out a base of merc scum, fight through a cargo hold of Thorian creepers to reach a murderous scientist. And the third? Heck, for the third I just had to answer "yes" to a very simple question. I didn't need to spend the majority of the game finding people and convincing them to like me, only to find that when I was finished it was time for the finale already.

Which makes me hope ME3 is a bit more focused on plot. I'm not against character development, but it's almost as if the Collector threat is just a convenient backdrop to explore these characters and their compelling story arcs. Which, to bring this back on topic, will be all the more easy if various character arcs are tied up in ME2 DLC. Such as Liara. After all, taking down the Shadow Broker because he/she/they did a business deal a few years ago kinda seems like it'd pale into insignificance compared to "there's a Reaper fleet heading straight for us".

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Little problem with these DLC hopes of yours; in a Destructoid interview, they mention Liara towards the end of the article:

"That love story will continue into Mass Effect 2 (and Mass Effect 3) if you had started it in the first game, though things will be a bit rocky between you this time around because you’ve been away for two years.  You’ll be able to conclude that story with Liara in Mass Effect 3, though keep in mind that your romances in Mass Effect 3 will have an impact on how that plays out."

Probably means no DLC, I suppose. It's obvious that players who stayed faithful will be, for lack of a better term, 'rewarded', in the third game, however.


(Here's the link; the quote is from the end section of the article: www.destructoid.com/answers-to-my-in-the-moment-mass-effect-2-questions-163035.phtml#ext )

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TheIrishRailwayMan wrote...

Little problem with these DLC hopes of yours; in a Destructoid interview, they mention Liara towards the end of the article:

"That love story will continue into Mass Effect 2 (and Mass Effect 3) if you had started it in the first game, though things will be a bit rocky between you this time around because you’ve been away for two years.  You’ll be able to conclude that story with Liara in Mass Effect 3, though keep in mind that your romances in Mass Effect 3 will have an impact on how that plays out."

Probably means no DLC, I suppose. It's obvious that players who stayed faithful will be, for lack of a better term, 'rewarded', in the third game, however.


(Here's the link; the quote is from the end section of the article: www.destructoid.com/answers-to-my-in-the-moment-mass-effect-2-questions-163035.phtml#ext )


To me, though, that seems to say that there WILL be Liara DLC. Casey says that the romance continues in ME2, but other than the kiss when you first meet it's almost completely absent. At least with Ashley/Kaidan you get the email, and other NPCs discuss it. With Liara there's none of that.

Plus, the fact that there's a file in the PC version called "liara_dlc_leadin" also seems to be pretty good evidence. ;-)

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Eddie-Hawke wrote...

Daeion wrote...

Luced0 wrote...

speeking of liara and dlc and info, I did notice something lacking from ME2. If liara was your Love intrist and you joined with her. it's bin 2 years shouldnt she have had a duaghter / sheperds duaghter. something that maybe should be adressed I think. becouse didnt the beacon and / thorian girl give shepred the entire genetec memory of the protheans (thats what they say) so when liara joined with shepered the off sprinf would have the gentic memory of humans and protheans and asari. the child could be very important to the story and bioware just sorta ignored that whole plot point that was such a signi****ant factor in the romance of Liara.


Do we actually know how Asari conception works? 


Can't they choose to get pregnant? If so, what an incredibly convenient species.


I have no clue, that's why I'm asking, I mean unless they get prego with a single melding no matter what, then I wouldn't expect any sort of a love child.

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Fully agree!

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Would be nice... just... better be interesting DLC and she'd better play a big role in it.

I'd love to see some more Liara.

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In the DLC, if she's a temporary squadmate, I'd love it if she wears the armour she wore in Redemption. I thought it was pretty cool looking, and made her look super cool. :)

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

In the DLC, if she's a temporary squadmate, I'd love it if she wears the armour she wore in Redemption. I thought it was pretty cool looking, and made her look super cool. :)


Agreed, it did look nice.  If the DLC comes out post suicide mission I see no reason to just add her to the squad and get her onboard the Normandy, especailly if we finish off her SB arc.  I'd also like to see it formatted so that all the missions and off-Normandy content is set up for a 2 person squad, just Shep and Liara. :wub:  I don't need some third wheel butting in on my Liara time. :D

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Has anyone had another look through the Liara DLC files? Did anyone see anything with regards to dialogue?

Sorry, I just can't bloody wait. I'm going through Liara withdrawal, heh. :)


No, I've just found those 2 files.  If I could find a way to open the .pcc file I could have a better look.  I might have to research that.

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The Liara pcc files are really tiny, though I haven't unpacked them yet. There isn't anything in the TLK dialogue file about the Liara DLC.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

In the DLC, if she's a temporary squadmate, I'd love it if she wears the armour she wore in Redemption. I thought it was pretty cool looking, and made her look super cool. :)


Why would she wear armor?  Only Shep, mercs, and every soldier in the galaxy need it, your squadmates don't.

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I think the implication is that the Liara DLC will either connect to ME 3, meaning it will be released shortly before the game (so no time soon) or that it will deal specifically with Liara's quest to defeat the SB, and only touch on the romance but not focus on it. So those of you hoping for a beach scene where you run towards her in slow motion and hug...will need to wait until ME 3.

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Daeion wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

In the DLC, if she's a temporary squadmate, I'd love it if she wears the armour she wore in Redemption. I thought it was pretty cool looking, and made her look super cool. :)


Why would she wear armor?  Only Shep, mercs, and every soldier in the galaxy need it, your squadmates don't.


Sadly


They should have gotten creative with casual outfits if they wanted, but fighting in them, sometimes in hostile enviroments?