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[darrenr22]

This thread is highly amusing. I have to say that certain people have a very naive view of how language works.

[booke63]

Randomname1212 wrote...

They could spell it whoever way they want really, its their creations. They could have named them anything. I mean, they spell "Sir" as "Ser" for example.

Yes, but are they pronouncing "Ser" in the one correct way?

[Randomname1212]

booke63 wrote...

Randomname1212 wrote...

They could spell it whoever way they want really, its their creations. They could have named them anything. I mean, they spell "Sir" as "Ser" for example.

Yes, but are they pronouncing "Ser" in the one correct way?

I was referring to the spelling not pronouncing. They can pronounce things differently like how they can spell things differently.

[booke63]

Randomname1212 wrote...

booke63 wrote...

Randomname1212 wrote...

They could spell it whoever way they want really, its their creations. They could have named them anything. I mean, they spell "Sir" as "Ser" for example.

Yes, but are they pronouncing "Ser" in the one correct way?

I was referring to the spelling not pronouncing. They can pronounce things differently like how they can spell things differently.

Apologies, Random.  I meant that only as a joke.  I'm with the crowd who thinks the authority on how a word is prounounced in Fereldan are those who speak words IN Ferendan--which is none of us.

[errant_knight]

Randomname1212 wrote...

booke63 wrote...

Randomname1212 wrote...

They could spell it whoever way they want really, its their creations. They could have named them anything. I mean, they spell "Sir" as "Ser" for example.

Yes, but are they pronouncing "Ser" in the one correct way?

I was referring to the spelling not pronouncing. They can pronounce things differently like how they can spell things differently.

I'm thinking that was a joke.

[SuperMedbh]

Well, my main character always pronounces it correctly.

[booke63]

SuperMedbh wrote...

Well, my main character always pronounces it correctly.

Funniest post!   In this...pretty funny thread.

[Randomname1212]

errant_knight wrote...

I'm thinking that was a joke.

I was being serious.

[Dahelia]

Really....wow......

[joey_mork84]

I have noticed that the OP of this thread posts a lot of different ones, all of which are for minor annoyances to the OP and are all of personal opinion (which is perfectly fine. everyone is entitled to their own opinion as is the right of everyone). However, in every single thread from the OP, they discount every effort anyone has of explaining the problem or anyone's attempt at trying to help. I say, if you have so many problems with this game and refuse help or advice, quit playing. Move on to something else which you might enjoy. This game is obviously not for you.

[cmathews03]

For someone who's such a stickler on pronunciation, you sure did abuse the use of ellipsis. I only bring this up because you seem to want everyone to adhere to "language rules."

Just sayin'.

At the end of the day, a tomayto is still a tomahto, and a golem is still a gollum. It doesn't really matter.

Modifié par cmathews03, 08 février 2010 - 09:07 .

[bzombo]

imikedoyle wrote...

I would agree that the "go-lem" rather than "gollum" pronunciation is more accurate. What bothered me more, during the game, was how the name "Eamonn" was pronounced. Only one voice actor got this name correct. (Loghain, during the Landsmeet, pronounces the name correctly.)

Eamon(n) is a genuine name that is fairly common in Ireland, and would also be found among Irish people living abroad. It should be pronounced as if it was written "Ay-mon" not "Ee-mon".

eemon eemon eemon eemon. i'm american. i can butcher pronunciations all i want it seems. everyone accuses us of it anyway. apparently there's no such thing as dialect anymore, just english and caveman.

[Dahelia]

bzombo wrote...

imikedoyle wrote...

I would agree that the "go-lem" rather than "gollum" pronunciation is more accurate. What bothered me more, during the game, was how the name "Eamonn" was pronounced. Only one voice actor got this name correct. (Loghain, during the Landsmeet, pronounces the name correctly.)

Eamon(n) is a genuine name that is fairly common in Ireland, and would also be found among Irish people living abroad. It should be pronounced as if it was written "Ay-mon" not "Ee-mon".

eemon eemon eemon eemon. i'm american. i can butcher pronunciations all i want it seems. everyone accuses us of it anyway. apparently there's no such thing as dialect anymore, just english and caveman.

No one is allowed to have different accents and say it the way their accent allows them to. It is ABSOLUTELY wrong, naughty, and you should be hung, burned, frozen, and buried and then peed upon for even thinking of having a different accent and saying it the way your accent and voice allows you to. I mean, come on....get with the program

[bzombo]

Dahelia wrote...

bzombo wrote...

imikedoyle wrote...

I would agree that the "go-lem" rather than "gollum" pronunciation is more accurate. What bothered me more, during the game, was how the name "Eamonn" was pronounced. Only one voice actor got this name correct. (Loghain, during the Landsmeet, pronounces the name correctly.)

Eamon(n) is a genuine name that is fairly common in Ireland, and would also be found among Irish people living abroad. It should be pronounced as if it was written "Ay-mon" not "Ee-mon".

eemon eemon eemon eemon. i'm american. i can butcher pronunciations all i want it seems. everyone accuses us of it anyway. apparently there's no such thing as dialect anymore, just english and caveman.

No one is allowed to have different accents and say it the way their accent allows them to. It is ABSOLUTELY wrong, naughty, and you should be hung, burned, frozen, and buried and then peed upon for even thinking of having a different accent and saying it the way your accent and voice allows you to. I mean, come on....get with the program

thou hast shown me the light! might i be able to someday speak'est as my betters do.

[Randomname1212]

I have found some similarities between Shale and Gollum though. They always refer to others as "it".

[Dahelia]

bzombo wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

bzombo wrote...

imikedoyle wrote...

I would agree that the "go-lem" rather than "gollum" pronunciation is more accurate. What bothered me more, during the game, was how the name "Eamonn" was pronounced. Only one voice actor got this name correct. (Loghain, during the Landsmeet, pronounces the name correctly.)

Eamon(n) is a genuine name that is fairly common in Ireland, and would also be found among Irish people living abroad. It should be pronounced as if it was written "Ay-mon" not "Ee-mon".

eemon eemon eemon eemon. i'm american. i can butcher pronunciations all i want it seems. everyone accuses us of it anyway. apparently there's no such thing as dialect anymore, just english and caveman.

No one is allowed to have different accents and say it the way their accent allows them to. It is ABSOLUTELY wrong, naughty, and you should be hung, burned, frozen, and buried and then peed upon for even thinking of having a different accent and saying it the way your accent and voice allows you to. I mean, come on....get with the program

thou hast shown me the light! might i be able to someday speak'est as my betters do.

Hopefully we all can then there will be no fighting on how you pronounce this name or that name or this word or that word...we will all be the same.

[Viglin]

Fumbleumble wrote...

Ok.. it's a little thing.. but it is kinda annoying....

The word 'Golem' SHOULD be pronounced with a long 'o' as in 'goal'.. but it's being pronounced with an 'o' as in 'orange'.. as per Smeagol's nom de guerre in LOTR.

They aren't the same word.

Just a little thing...but you sure post a lot of whinging threads...

[metal_dawn]

:ph34r:EDIT: [I have nothing to add to this discussion.]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 08 février 2010 - 10:20 .

[bzombo]

Dahelia wrote...

bzombo wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

bzombo wrote...

imikedoyle wrote...

I would agree that the "go-lem" rather than "gollum" pronunciation is more accurate. What bothered me more, during the game, was how the name "Eamonn" was pronounced. Only one voice actor got this name correct. (Loghain, during the Landsmeet, pronounces the name correctly.)

Eamon(n) is a genuine name that is fairly common in Ireland, and would also be found among Irish people living abroad. It should be pronounced as if it was written "Ay-mon" not "Ee-mon".

eemon eemon eemon eemon. i'm american. i can butcher pronunciations all i want it seems. everyone accuses us of it anyway. apparently there's no such thing as dialect anymore, just english and caveman.

No one is allowed to have different accents and say it the way their accent allows them to. It is ABSOLUTELY wrong, naughty, and you should be hung, burned, frozen, and buried and then peed upon for even thinking of having a different accent and saying it the way your accent and voice allows you to. I mean, come on....get with the program

thou hast shown me the light! might i be able to someday speak'est as my betters do.

Hopefully we all can then there will be no fighting on how you pronounce this name or that name or this word or that word...we will all be the same.

oooooo...sameness........everyone must now speak old english.

[aries1001]

As long as we're discussion these things, let me remind every-one that before the anglo-saxon invansion of England, people in England probably spoke their local language, whether it be cumbrian or cornwallish or maybe even devonish? And before that they'd probably spoke celtics (gaelic). After the Romans invaded England, the English ruling class propbably started to speak Latin. And then a little later, the normann (vikings) invaded, so a lot of normann words got mixed into the English language.



My point being that languages are living, developing things, not dead thing - the same is true for the pronounciations of words. They develop over time. My own language Danish has some very odd pronounciations of words, but they're still written the same way they're were written hundreds of years ago. My point is is also this, to get back to the topic a bit, that the pronounciation of Golem could have changed during the centuries in Ferelden.



This means that Fereldans (that is: inhabitants of Ferelden) could once maybe have pronounced Golem one way, today (in the game), they pronounce it a bit differently. As long as we agree that a Golem is a magical creature that has been made by someone, possibly a mage?, or a wizard, a the dwarfs, as is the case in Ferelden, then how it's pronounced should be of lesser importance, I find.

[Stanley Woo]

I rather like the eemon pronunciation of Eamon's name, though aymon would have been cooler. Heck, I just like the name.



When it comes to golem, however, I'm not too concerned, since English takes words from lots of different cultures. Some words are Anglicized in pronunciation, and some retain their original pronunciation. It's how English continues to grow as a language.

[bzombo]

when i say "shoe", it sounds like "xylophone".

[Spitz6860]

i actually asked a lot of people i know and all of them think both are okay, so unless you are going for a technicality, it's not an issue

[bzombo]

Stanley Woo wrote...

I rather like the eemon pronunciation of Eamon's name, though aymon would have been cooler. Heck, I just like the name.

When it comes to golem, however, I'm not too concerned, since English takes words from lots of different cultures. Some words are Anglicized in pronunciation, and some retain their original pronunciation. It's how English continues to grow as a language.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemon!