I arrived at Ostagar with a new character and decided to head over to the Tower of Ishal before going to find Alister etc, this is the first time that I had ever gone there prior to thje fight and when I spoke to a soldier guarding the tower he told me that it was closed because Loghain"s troops were doing some work in the underground passages. I was wondering if Loghain had made some deal with the darkspawn to give them access to the tower, has this ever been discussed?
Conspiracy? Spoiler
Débuté par
Grumpy33
, févr. 08 2010 06:06
#1
Posté 08 février 2010 - 06:06
#2
Posté 08 février 2010 - 06:44
Interesting. I did talk to that guard once, but I didn't remeber what he said. Maybe he knew they were trying to come in from that location and tried to hide it.
#3
Posté 08 février 2010 - 07:55
Just MHO. Loghain wanted his men to control the tower & had everything in place so that his guys would be the ones doing the signal prior to war meeting. After all that signal was the key to the battle & if it was messed up everyone would be in trouble ... or it could be used to his advantage should he feel the need to withdraw in spite of whatever the king was planning. He's a control freak about stuff like that.
The darkspawn coming up from the pits was almost certainly unexpected ... and one of the first indicators that Ostigar wasn't going to go as planned. I don't read Conspiracy between Loghain & the spawn because of it, but it's entirely possible to read other types of political maneuvering into it.
The darkspawn coming up from the pits was almost certainly unexpected ... and one of the first indicators that Ostigar wasn't going to go as planned. I don't read Conspiracy between Loghain & the spawn because of it, but it's entirely possible to read other types of political maneuvering into it.
#4
Posté 08 février 2010 - 08:12
You can't deal with darkspawn, they are beasts, except for the few rare intellegant ones.
When doing this I interpreted the situation like this, the darkspawn were heading for Ostagar and had proably dug through the deep roads all the way there and started to dig up through the floor, Loghain found this out and decided to hide it as part of his plan.
Hence why he wanted to send his own troops to light the beacon- he wasn't actually going to send them, he just didn't want anyone to find and fight the darkspawn before they got the chance to flank the Kings army from an unexpected angle.
That is assuming that Loghain had planned to betray the King from the beginning which I believe is what happened. I don't believe it was spur of the moment betrayal as some do.
When doing this I interpreted the situation like this, the darkspawn were heading for Ostagar and had proably dug through the deep roads all the way there and started to dig up through the floor, Loghain found this out and decided to hide it as part of his plan.
Hence why he wanted to send his own troops to light the beacon- he wasn't actually going to send them, he just didn't want anyone to find and fight the darkspawn before they got the chance to flank the Kings army from an unexpected angle.
That is assuming that Loghain had planned to betray the King from the beginning which I believe is what happened. I don't believe it was spur of the moment betrayal as some do.
Modifié par DJ0000, 08 février 2010 - 08:14 .
#5
Posté 10 février 2010 - 03:50
Based on the Return to Ostagar map, the thing that doesn't make sense to me is that the cave that leads to the puts underneath the tower was behind the battle lines, not somewhere else. They should have been well protected by the army (at least until the battle started going bad), but it's clear the Darkspawn were in there before the battle lines got pushed back that far, which was right near the end of the battle when the Ogre is killed by Duncan. Unless the Darkspawn came up through some other way inside there that I didn't notice, that's possible.





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