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[AmstradHero]

I also picked it up first time through. I was tempted to sent Tali as my tech expert, but figured Legion was good at combat and a hacking genius, so he would be the best option. Garrus then Miranda led the fire team, Zaeed took the survivors back to the Normandy and Jack made a biotic field. Miranda, Tali and Shepard blew up the base.

[lyssalu]

me

bioware kind of hand feeds it to you in the character descriptions before choosing a specialist/fire team leader

[Cadarin]

I got it. It wasn't that hard I guess since I didn't even know about it before hand. Was playing on Insane too...

[ThatDancingTurian]

Does crew count for the title? If so, I was spoiled, because I heard about the IFF thing. Got through with all of my squad alive without any spoilers, though.

[ipro_carltron]

 i got out with everyone except:

Kelly, and some extra crews from the normandy (like those useless sacks that did nothing but talked/complained about the food)

in my defense... i didn't know there was time pressure... And i chose Jack over Miranda for the make a choice part, and never used either and it all worked out fine.

tali = tech expert
garrus led team with jacob
garrus escorted back chakwas
samara was shield person

Modifié par ipro_carltron, 09 février 2010 - 07:00 .

[Gamine]

The only mistake I made was putting Samara in charge of the first fire team, thus buying poor old Legion a rocket to the face...I guess a 1000 year old warrior goddess didn't quite fit the bill of "experienced" (ok ok in retrospect they did tell me to put a good leader in charge, and she is the quintessential lone wolf..). If I'd gone with my initial gut and used Miranda, I would have sailed through first go without having to look up what I did wrong.

AH WELL.

[Undeath87]

I did this my first run, no spoilers or guides or anything... just using what came instincively.



Who to crawl through the vents and open the door? Legion was synthetic... he had the best chance of sneaking through undetected. AND he could hack like a chainsaw on steroids.



Who to lead the fireteams? Garrus showed he had capacity for leadership by leading his own team once, and Miranda has leadership qualities, even if she IS a b*tch. I used them both, first Garrus, then Miranda.



Who to create the biotic shield? Well Jack had raw power... but I chose Samara instead. She has had hundreds of years of Asari biotic training, more likely to be able to keep up concentrated focus.



And finally, I sent Zaeed back to guard the rescued crewmen. He was a grizzled veteran, used to working on his own, and I trusted him to get it done.



I chose all of these through logic and a bit of instinct, and before even beginning the mission I had full ship and squad upgrades and loyalty. I took no chances, and ME2's final mission got itself OWNED!



Though near the end when Tali started sliding off the edge of the exploding platform I had my heart in my throat... but her hips prevailed!

[ReplicantZero]

JrayM16 wrote...
Essentially, I did Zaeed's personal quest too early and didnt have enough paragon to charm him, thus I could not gain his loyalty and thus he died. He was the only one who died.

I also failed to get Zaeed's loyalty, and lost Jack's too. However everyone still survived the mission for me - Jack and Zaeed actually turned out to be a surprisingly fun squad combo (but still took Shepard's most trusted comrades, Tali and Garrus, on the final run, for old times sake).

(Btw made my own choices re squad composition and switched around a bit just for variety, but couldn't say was totally 'unspoiled' - knew that the IFF mission would trigger the end game).

Modifié par ReplicantZero, 09 février 2010 - 11:24 .

[Snowraptor]

Its not hard, i was surpised i saved everyone

[DaneWolf]

Lucky bastards... It's like I took all the verry wrong choices in the end. And I had my whole crew loyal!!! No one was in normal Loyalty. I tried to get as many minerals for ship and upgrades as I could but som of the upgrades remained grey even though I could aford them... Whats wrong with that?!?

[ReplicantZero]

DaneWolf wrote...

I tried to get as many minerals for ship and upgrades as I could but som of the upgrades remained grey even though I could aford them... Whats wrong with that?!?

Some upgrades require prior upgrades to be done first, but iirc this doesn't apply to ship upgrades.

Modifié par ReplicantZero, 09 février 2010 - 11:28 .

[GravyTrader]

I got three deaths in my first playthrough, one of who was Miranda because she was Unloyal. The second time though I actually took time to read the descriptions of each party member and sorted out Miranda and everyone made it out alive.

[EDarkness]

I made it through with no deaths on the first try. I thought it was pretty easy to do since all you really had to do is match the best person for the job. As long as you did that, it shouldn't be a problem letting everyone live.

[Kerilus]

Me. I think any paragon players who have a basic understanding of their crew can easily do that. However, I foolishly ignored the urgency to save the captured crew and had Kelly+Gabby die for that completly avoidable folly Had to replay from the dead reaper to save them. But it was as Tali said, totally worth it.

[Kurupt87]

first playthrough with no prep:

vents:garrus(hes the closest we've got to an infiltrator class squaddie, so vent crawling and hacking i thought would be right up his street)

1st leader: zaeed(yeah i kno)

these 2 resulted in garrus' death

biotics:jack(her her story arc is how shes stoopid powerful biotic)

2nd leader: zaeed, again(yeah i kno!)

this got zaeed killed

escort:no1, was doing renegade char

door:i think i left grunt to hold it, and that he died

squad:miranda and thane

mordin and tali were dead

i had everyone loyal



so yeah, fail lol

[LadyLuminary]

My first playthrough ended with almost all of my squad dead and me screaming about how much BioWare sucked. I took it back after I realized there was a technique to it, and I felt stupid.

[Spell Singer]

I lost half the crew but otherwise got the mission done with the no one left behind and did it first try and without using any spoilers. I didn't think it was that hard, the crew thing was a surprise but getting the Doc out made me feel better about it..Chambers being liquefied in front of me was well not so good and the ship really felt empty with the missing crew. As my Xbox 360 is not connected to the internet you can believe me or not.

Garus led the 1st team, and Legion did the hacking.  Garus has combat leadership experience, and Legion is a geth so even if I lose it...well it is expendable being synthetic and haveing a back up someplace likely anyway.  Shepard, Samara and Jack blew our way into the place...with me cursing that damned mechanic of opening valves.

Send Thane back with the crew since well he is overall leathal at all ranges, against all targets and this is right down his alley as he is a loner and he is the least useful in the team since he is a loner.  Used Samara just cause actually she volunteered and I saw no reason to change that.  Shepard, Jack and Tali were the one group while Miranda (keep her ego in check) lead the other.

Shifted back to the group of Shepard, Samara, and Jack for the last bit, I think I left Garus in charge again.  Jack didn't go over the edge, the reaper discovered what happens "If Shepard has a rocket launcher" and the end cinematic was a total shock and surprise I don't even know what got the reaper since I think I was shooting a collector assasin with the sniper rifle when it triggered.

Modifié par Spell Singer, 09 février 2010 - 02:12 .

[i love lamp x3]

it's really simple.. the first time i was pretty tense and but honestly once you get to know characters and learn their skills it's not really that big of a deal.. it's a little scary but still you can make educated guesses. why would you choose a biotic assassin with no tech abilities as your hacker to send through the vents?



obviously the hacker you send through the vents is legion, a specialized super-geth who hacks through firewalls in your ship while standing there effing talking to you...



if you love your squad you put garrus in charge.. he led his own squad of 12 guys very well and felt so awful when he couldnt protect them from that traitor so obviously he's not only a beast in combat but you know he would take care of everyone.



samara ranks near-asari matriach in terms of biotic ability.. which is almost as good as it gets so she takes you through the bugs. i guess jack works too but i didn't pick her because she's supposed to be one of the most powerful HUMAN biotics.. and humans arent the level of asari as far as biotic ability goes.



the only questionable decision i made was letting zaeed lead my grew back to the normandy.. but i figured even though he's kind of ruthless, he's still a good leader and just a beast. it worked out, no casualties



so yeah everyone lived my first try... the only problem was after i got the IFF and my crew was kidnapped i didnt go rescue them immediately.. i did a couple more missions so by the time i got there kelly was dead, etc. i corrected that on my second and third playthroughs though and everyone lived.



i had read posts on here with mordin dying randomly though... so there could still be a little luck involved, but idk because so far i'm 3/3 no squad members died. maybe those people didn't upgrade mordin's omnitool? i think for the people who get upgrades, you have to upgrade them. like jack's biotic ability and grunt's health, etc.



i'm going to experiment a little on future playthroughs with not getting certain people's loyalty, etc. i'm probly going to play through this game like 20 times lol. for now though i'm going to replay me1 a few times, experimenting with different decisions, backgrounds, etc.



still my hypothesis is if you actually think for a second and you have everyone's loyalty and upgraded properly, everything will run smoothly.

[mackster2289]

I did it but I lost the crew. Then after reloading an earlier save, it took me four tries to keep people from dying randomly on the last stand.

[Bratinov]

I was sure you cant save every one, and that the one in the vents would surely die (i thought Vermire), so I had the assassin do it since he was going to die anyway and he probably had lots of XP crawling through vents... only he died.

Good jobs making me assume something Bioware.
I did not look at the achivments.

I did everything in the game, explored everything, got all upgrades.

[TeaWhiteNonePlease]

Erm, I basically listened to the dialogue and they pretty much put forward who should be good for certain things,



Miranda for 2nd team leader both times



Tali in the vents, since she is a Tech expert and thats what they were after,



Samara for the biotic bubble, they basically suggest her or Jack,



Jacob escorts crew back.



Rolled with Garrus everytime, Grunt, Legion and Thane as the 3rd member in each section.



So, yeah I did that first time also....nur nur!

[Aldenhal]

I made it through with no one left behind on my first play through. Although i did lose most of the crew from the Normandy.

[GarethLorn]

Valmy wrote...

I did. But I felt sorta dirty for getting it since only the good doctor survived from the crew. But my whole team went in and out ok. I felt like it was sorta obvious that Jacob, Miranda, and Garrus were the best leaders and Legion/Tali were the best tech people.

Well I guess I sorta lucked out with Garrus I just presumed he would be a good leader after leading his team on Omega.

I picked Garrus for the same reasons. Unfortunately, I did lose Miranda and Jacob. I had thought Jacob would be good for the vent mission, namely because he volunteered. I also wasn't sure how well it would turn as a whole for any of my party, because Miranda, one of the more influential members of my crew, wasn't loyal. As such, I didn't want to risk losing Tali or Legion (characters I genuinely liked, and felt I might need later on) in the vents if Miranda did something stupid. Poor Jacob.

Miranda was just sort of dead at the end.

[Kerberus88]

SymGenie wrote...

I went completionist so I got all loyalties and all upgrades before I did the suicide mission. I'm surprised I got the no one left behind on the first shot.. while I didn't lose any squad members, I did take too long to rescue the crew and I lost like.. half the people.

I chose Legion as my tech because if he died.. well, I didn't care about him much. I picked Garrus for team leader as I thought he needed redemption for his.. whole losing his entire team thing both times and I chose Samara as biotic because I remember one of her descriptions described justicars as powerful as Asari Matriarchs. I also picked Jacob to lead the survivors because he's a soldier and I never use him anyway.

I did the same thing as you, except Tali in the vents. For the same reasons as well.

[e-s-m]

I received the achievement on my first play-through as well, with no forum help.



I sent Legion through the vent. Used Miranda as a leader, and Samara for the biotic. Grunt and Thane were with me the whole way dealing out the damage on the hardcore level.