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[Ashlag]

Willie_on_Wheels wrote...

RabidWHM wrote...

I like Jacob. Most people don't like him because he fades into the background with all the crazy aliens on board. He is much like Kaidan in the way that he is just a regular guy trying to do what's right. I do wish his loyalty mission was better in the way it showed off his inner struggles but overall it was decent.

For his appearance, I think he is very attractive. He is a very good attempt at a real African American man. I think it is very nice to see Bioware showing diversity in its games. All other gaming companies focus on the Mr. T/Dennis Rodman look a likes. With those hideous "fro-hawks, blonde hair, crazy ridiculous attitudes, whatever, I'm happy Jacob is aboard the Normandy. My male Shep needs a good homie and Jacob is just the guy.

Jacob for me has the good stuff. We going to get loud on the Citadel and have some drinks! Woot.

I like Jacob as a person. His character is just less interesting than it could have been. He's also really not "a regular guy whose trying to do what's right". He works for a very morally questionable organization, (which in the context isn't so bad) but seems so totally ambivalent about it. At no point does he seem to actually question whether or not the terrorist organization he works for might be manipulating him.

I mean, sure he doesn't ever say "No" to Cerberus, but at quite a few points in the early game both the Illusive Man and Shepard mention that Jacob is one who speaks his mind when he doesn't like something. The Illusive Man has apparently had Jacob question his orders at least once. So I don't think he doesn't know that he is probably being manipulated, it is more that he is just going to play it as it comes. Which is the same attitude as Shepard has (Paragon shepard especially, you have to work for Cerberus, but you can defy them when necessary).

[FlammableSlinky]

Jacob is the boring nice guy among a team of people with dark pasts and motives. Hell even Tali is more bad ass then him in ME2, she was interesting but quiet in th ME1.



Human = Dull since you know what humans are all about

Nice / Predictable = His speaking out is more like complaining then following along.

Powers = Not really notable, there are better characters to take along on missions

Kaidan = Didn't like him, I wish Ashly hadn't died, I hate Kaidan and he ****ed about me in ME2 so I like him even less.

[RabidWHM]

Willie_on_Wheels wrote...

RabidWHM wrote...

I like Jacob. Most people don't like him because he fades into the background with all the crazy aliens on board. He is much like Kaidan in the way that he is just a regular guy trying to do what's right. I do wish his loyalty mission was better in the way it showed off his inner struggles but overall it was decent.

For his appearance, I think he is very attractive. He is a very good attempt at a real African American man. I think it is very nice to see Bioware showing diversity in its games. All other gaming companies focus on the Mr. T/Dennis Rodman look a likes. With those hideous "fro-hawks, blonde hair, crazy ridiculous attitudes, whatever, I'm happy Jacob is aboard the Normandy. My male Shep needs a good homie and Jacob is just the guy.

Jacob for me has the good stuff. We going to get loud on the Citadel and have some drinks! Woot.

I like Jacob as a person. His character is just less interesting than it could have been. He's also really not "a regular guy whose trying to do what's right". He works for a very morally questionable organization, (which in the context isn't so bad) but seems so totally ambivalent about it. At no point does he seem to actually question whether or not the terrorist organization he works for might be manipulating him.

Well he is like Shepard. What I meant about doing "what is right" is that even though he doesn't trust the IM he cooperates for the sake of trying to do something positive for the sake of humanity. Even the IM states that Jacob has given him trouble in the past about questioning his orders.
 
Jacob touches briefly about lack luster approach the alliance takes when it comes to missing human colonies. You can hate or like the organization; you have to understand that even Shepard "joins" or cooperates with Cerberus to get the job done. It has to be the same with Jacob. He feels in his heart that he is taking the necessary actions to do what is needed to help humanity.
 
A lot of your crew is exactly the same. They were once apart of the alliance and decided to join or cooperate with Cerberus because they lost respect for the alliance. They are labeled rebel and terrorist because of the actions in which they take to get the job done. I find no problem in people who question their government’s just the actions in which they handle the rebellion. I also believe a few spoiled apples do not spoil the bunch.  That is why I believe that Miranda and Jacob are pretty awesome.

[WMK01]

Of course he comes across as kind of boring. He's on a ship with:



1. The greatest hero the Alliance has ever known



2. A genetically perfect superwoman



3. A Salarian genius who can kill armed mercs, sing acapella, develop treatment for a disease created by one of the most advanced alien races in the galaxy and modify the genophage... all at the same time if he had to



4. The most powerful human biotic alive who also just happens to be a sociopathic killer



5. A Krogan supersoldier, developed by a Krogan doctor to be the perfect Krogan. A little like Captain America... only with scales and an overriding need to kill things



6. A former C-Sec officer who can snipe the zit off of a Krogan's butt from 500 hectametres while leading a crusade against every criminal in Omega... that's a lot of criminals



7. A Quarian technical savant who could probably create a functioning mass accelerator from some drier lint, a handful of tacks and exactly three toenail clippings



8. The most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy, co-founder of the Bluesuns, one of the most dangerous men alive... plus he has that awesome cockney accent and the best war stories around... besides Wrex's



9. A master Assassin with the heart of a philosopher... he can just as easily infiltrate a heretic Geth hive and kill a colossus with his bare hands as tell you the meaning of life



10. A supremely powerful Asari justicar, justice incarnate, feared by evildoers... and just about everyone else... did I mention her biotics are on par with those of an Asari matriarch? No? Oh hey, look out for that reeve...



11. A Geth infiltrator who hacks into the Council's e-mail accounts and signs them up for Asari/Hanar pron just for kicks, has a bad case of multiple personality disorder and, oh yeah, can peg a Collector between the eyes with his optic sensor closed



Jacob might be a little normal compared to these guys, but I love the sense of brotherhood my Sheppard has with him. He's the type of guy you could just go out and have a good time with. The others are awesome too, but they're all so complicated... plus, Jacob's a good guy, honest, forthright... out of place in Cerberus.

[Sandrock05]

Boring or not I just wished they had a character video of him. Give the man that much respect.

[Kosmiker]

I think Jacob is a cool guy, the kind of friend to go with you to afterlife to comment those blue arses.. ehehehehe.

[Bootsykk]

...I think Bioware also realized that Jacob is just so damn boring.

If there are any ME2 characters I am severely disappointed in it's Jacob. What a snooze he is.

[Mendelevosa]

It seems like Jacob is a random black guy that Bioware threw into the game just so that no one would call them racist for only including white humans in the party.

[Muhyou Rei]

Three things are annoying about Jacob:



1. He's saluting Shepard all the time. HELLO! Not only are Shepard and Jacob not in the military...they aren't in the military. No saluting.

2.His romance lines are lame. I cringed during most of them.

3. He's a weak character in general. Don't know if it's because of the company Shepard keeps, but seriously. He just seems to have a penchant for suicide missions. Seriously.

Overall opinion: Jacob is lame.

[aaroxmi]

I thought he was just okay story wise, I never use him after omega though, mostly because he has a tendency to die every other second

[Element Zero]

I like Jacob okay. He definitely wasn't interesting enough for my FemShep to drop Kaidan/Liara, but neither were Garrus nor Thane. His character was pretty believable, for me. That's really all I ask for in a game.

As to his appearance, my wife calls him "Kanye West", to which I immediately reply : "Jake's not a douchebag."

[Elvis_Mazur]

I never used him in my team but i would not say that Bioware is racist, Jacob is well designed and has great graphics as well a good background (he saved the Council).

[Element Zero]

slimgrin wrote...

Jacob is a realistic character.You are a military outfit, after all, so your going to end up with someone disciplined and by the books. I thought his voice-over was done well enough too. But I didn't use him because his abilities don't stand out. He's rather bland for gameplay opportunities.

I can agree with all of this. I like Jacob's character, but he's rarely the "optimal" gameplay choice for any mission. Fortunately (I guess), the game's easy enough for me to bring whomever the hell I want to bring on a given mission, and still succeed.

I thought Jake could've used a few more tricks, or at least an assault rife. He's a career soldier, after all. The asault rifle is referred to in-game as the primary/basic weapon of all infantry in the galaxy. WTH? Squad Incendiary Ammo can be useful, but Grunt can do the same and do it while being virtually indestructible. Plus, you'll never see Jacob cut loose with a crazy ass charge attack.

So, I guess I like Jacob the character, but not his skill set. I believe we're in total agreement on that.

[X-Frame]

This is kind of random but I feel Jacob should've been a lot taller. I mean, FemShep towers over him.



I do like Jacob though.

[Element Zero]

PetrySilva wrote...

I never used him in my team but i would not say that Bioware is racist, Jacob is well designed and has great graphics as well a good background (he saved the Council).

Agreed. To pull the race-card on this is a bit ridiculous. He's one of the few good-guys in the entire game (maybe the only one if your Shep's a renegade). He's a true hero and is humble enough to accept that no one will ever know it.

He's one of the potential love interests for a female shepard. Assuming a large portion of ME gamers play non-black Femsheps (a fair assumption), Bioware is knowingly including interracial sex in their game. How very racist of them.

Jacob has a lot more positives in his corner than negatives; and none of the negatives suggest racism.

[SimonTheFrog]

Nah, he's just too smooth. There are no edges.



He's just the dude that follows his military career. There's a reason why they killed Jenkins off very early Those guys are boring to talk to ^^



I wonder if events will shape him into a great man or utterly destroy him...

[Teknor]

He's perfect hence he's flawed.

[vhatever]

Nice guys always finish last, especially if their best weapon is a shotgun(yoink!).

[Element Zero]

I think all of the characters, Jacob included, simply weren't as interesting as they could've been. I spent a lot more time talking to my six ME compatriots than I've spent speaking with the ten default ME2 characters.

Maybe Jacob would've been as interesting to me as Kaiden/Ash/Garrus/whomever if he'd talked more. I felt this way about most of the new crew. Everyone was too busy to speak with Shepard this time around.  When will those weapons ever be calibrated? For God's sake, let's let EDI do it. She did fine on Horizon.

Modifié par tallrickruush, 27 mars 2010 - 06:04 .

[Jalem001]

Lack of emotional damage and psychological disorders means you're boring.

[KotOREffecT]

Jolee Bindo > Jacob



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