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BioWare please stop with the worthless downloads!


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#51
Solica

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Bioware, please continue with the downloads, even if some forum poster claims they're worthless.

(I'm not ready to let DA:O go, yet.)


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shreddog

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I have no problem paying for quality content, and 5$ isn't much.



Hoping the next DLC will be a idiotproof Construction Set :)

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Chokra Broodslayer

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pastypus wrote...

The money adds up quick - whats an expansion $25 or so. A bunch of these and you could pay for a new game. Its not just the money either - i never feel satified ony any of the stuff so far. I have no problem paying for a FULL expansin - i just dont want to be nicke and dimed to death.


Actually, most full expansions are $40 or more these days. The main games are $50+ (not counting collector's editions, which I've seen some other company's CE versions go as high as $100 retail).

Even nearly 10 years ago, it was $30+ for expansions to NWN1 when they first came out.

Most of those $5 downloads for DAO include a character, special items, and a quest. That's not too shabby.

How much do you pay for a single session, pen-and-paper RPG adventure? At least $10.

For these digital add-ons, $5 is the going rate... you see it for every module or adventure out there for numerous MMOs and other newer games that support DLC.

The way I look at it is that if the company can keep producing cool new stuff that increases the life of the game, keeps bringing people back to play, and doesn't break the game... I'm all for it.

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AlanC9 wrote...

Some Dude On The Internet wrote...

$5 spent on RTO lasted longer than $5 spent at Starbucks. And my Frappucino is DEFINITELY not replayable...


It's funny how we keep completely different scores on what's fair value for our money. For the cost of a beer or a donut and coffee, you get RTO. It's hard to argue that this isn't fair value.

I think some people have a psychological problem with this because full games offer so much better value for money. Of course, games are one of the most cost-efficient forms of entertainment there is.


It's kind of like this... you can buy one Dr. Pepper for $1.60 at a convenience store... or you can buy a case of 24 for $20 at the grocer. Of course you get a better value for the case than the individual bottle. DLC vs. full expansion is the same thing. Sometimes you don't need a whole case of pop... sometimes you don't need a full expansion (while you're waiting for one to come out)... you just need a fix (a boost of caffeine, if you will) to carry you on a little longer until the big party happens (release).

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pastypus wrote...

Its not just the money either - i never feel satified ony any of the stuff so far. I have no problem paying for a FULL expansin - i just dont want to be nicke and dimed to death.


As opposed to buying $50 games to death?

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simplificationizer wrote...

Not paying for more DLC tbh, unless it's something like Shale. The others are completely forgettable.


And Shale retails for $15... it's three times the cost of most of the others. Of course they won't compare to it.

Honestly, I thought the Ranger DLC was pretty cool for the price.

How about all the free DLC too? Like the ring for just uploading your first character... or the bonus items for playing Dragon Age Journeys flash game? They don't charge you for that DLC... but they still have to pay their employees to make it.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Return to Ostagar wasn't so good. The other DLC was fine though. Also I can think of plenty of things I've bought for less than 5 bucks that lasted longer than 20 minutes. Hell, I got STALKER and TF2 for 2 bucks a piece.


To be fair, you should compare retail prices to retail prices -- not some bargain bin, clearance prices. Clearance will always be the biggest bang for your entertainment dollar. There's usually a reason it's on clearance, though.

When I go to the movies, I spend $10 (just on the ticket alone) for an average 2-hour movie, retail. If I can get 1 hour (including replayability) of time out of a $5 DLC, then that's a fair price. If I want to see that movie again, I have to pay again.

The way I look at it... I spent years buying tons of games... but there aren't that many I really love and continue to play. I STILL play Baldur's Gate series... I STILL play NWN1... and I will continue to play DAO, ME, and ME2 for years to come. When I think of all the money I wasted through the years on lesser games that I quickly lost interest in... it almost makes me sick. But I have never regretted buying a BioWare game -- which is why they're on my must-buy list. I'd rather spend that money I would have otherwise wasted and instead have everything possible to expand the games I will continue to play. THAT is a better use of my entertainment dollar.

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I'm sorry but I REALLY like all three DLCs. I particularly enjoyed the feel and lore of Warden's Keep, and RtO was pretty good overall.



I just don't know what you people (the OP) wants...



For me? It was WELL worth the paltry few dollars for the DLCs.

#59
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I'm happy for a five dollars worth of gameplay, especially since I've been reading the Dragon Age books and was amazed when I ran across one item that had some interesting history. I had a fangirl moment reading the books when I realized that it was in the story.



I guess I am still used to Japanese RPG's where things sometimes make no sense.

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I agree that most dlcs are overpriced, but no one says you have to buy them.

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don't buy the dlc then you really don't need to make a sign and run around with it to let everyone know

Modifié par dmcguk, 09 février 2010 - 04:13 .


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Sloth Of Doom wrote...

Bioware, stop forcing me to buy your stuff at gunpoint.


The latest DLC broke into my home, pushed me down, and took my wallet.

It also drank milk right from the carton, and put Uwe Boll movies on my Tivo.

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Then don't buy the downloads and stop crying.
There are other people who does enjoy small DLC.
The world doesn't revolve around you.
This game just isn't for you, PastyPus.

Keep them coming, Bioware.

Modifié par DomiiMai, 09 février 2010 - 05:38 .


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DLC is Kewl!

Modifié par jbengeii, 09 février 2010 - 05:34 .


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I enjoyed them all and for only the price of a couple of pints of hand pulled Guiness from the pub. Bought some tins on special offer from from the local store, so evening in with some DAO and Guinness - ah bliss.

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I personally prefer expansions to short 1 hour content. But I certainly wouldn't ask Bioware, or any other developer to stop producing them. Free choice and all.

IF RtO ever comes out to PS3 I will most likely buy it. Depends on the price though.

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Err, its not worthless. Its a good addition to the game. Of course, I agree its not enough content for 15 dollars (Stone Prisoner). 10 Hours of content like Point Lookout for FO3 is more what I'd expect.

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Why are people still complaining about DLCs? You don't have to buy them you know - AND they will still come since some people actually buys them. I do at least - keep'em coming!

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The gaming industry has lowered its standards over the last decade in terms of being "by gamers, for gamers."

Now it's "by corporations, to milk gamers"

It's just something you have to accept, and it's a major reason that I'm playing fewer games.  Fortunately the gameplay value of ye games of olde can still hold up.

Instead of a fully realized experience you get the core game while the "other" content is still being worked on.

Maybe it was inevitable with development times increasing.  I think it started with MMOs being released without the end-game content being completed.

Modifié par Zibon, 09 février 2010 - 10:41 .


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Lotion Soronarr

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Babaghanouj wrote...

Fortunately you possess free will and can choose to not purchase them. Just because YOU don't like something doesn't mean someone else can't. The game universe almost begs for these small extra quests.



Ahh...but that doesn't mean you have to like that such a practice even exists or is supported.B)

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Rictras Shard wrote...
Uwe Boll movies on my Tivo.


OH THE HUMIDITY!:o

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Killian Kalthorne

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Zibon wrote...

The gaming industry has lowered its standards over the last decade in terms of being "by gamers, for gamers."

Now it's "by corporations, to milk gamers"

It's just something you have to accept, and it's a major reason that I'm playing fewer games.  Fortunately the gameplay value of ye games of olde can still hold up.

Instead of a fully realized experience you get the core game while the "other" content is still being worked on.

Maybe it was inevitable with development times increasing.  I think it started with MMOs being released without the end-game content being completed.


The purpose of a company is to make money.  If a company doesn't make money they die.  If there wasn't a market for DLCs in the first place they wouldn't be DLCs.  Just don't buy them.  If enough people don't buy them then they won't be marketable, and be seen as a way to make money. 

#73
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Wait. We can force people to buy stuff at gunpoint? Why didn't anyone tell me that? Let me go grab a gun and check it out. I'm sure nothing bad can come out of that.

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Ferret A Baudoin wrote...

Wait. We can force people to buy stuff at gunpoint? Why didn't anyone tell me that? Let me go grab a gun and check it out. I'm sure nothing bad can come out of that.

Make me buy Baldur's Gate 1+2!

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Ferret A Baudoin wrote...

Wait. We can force people to buy stuff at gunpoint? Why didn't anyone tell me that? Let me go grab a gun and check it out. I'm sure nothing bad can come out of that.


I am sure that you can't, it is against most laws and you may find yourself in very deep trouble. :police: