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[DuffyMJ]

 Non-Cerberus crew don't trust Miranda and Jack flat-out hates her.  Period.

I can deal with Garrus because while strategically and morally inept, he's very talented tactically, but there's no excuse for Miranda being a good team leader.  

I've made the argument again and again that Samara is VASTLY more capable as a fireteam leader than any other choice possible, and while everyone simply points out her flaws as a "lone wolf" type, the fact remains that you'd have to be a total fool to choose to follow a Taliban or other terrorist group militia's squad commander into battle over a super-specialized 1,000 year veteran lone wolf commando.  And the whole thing about "she's not used to leading a team, she'd get her whole team killed" is totally moot, because the consequence of her leading the fire team is HER OWN DEATH!

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

I disagree, she's a Justicar and they work by themselves. I'm quite sure she doesn't know how to coordinate a team or lead them through respect and authority.



Miranda being a good leader also makes sense, given her history w/ Cerebrus and how she leads operations. Though I admit, Miranda causes a lot of friction and I wouldn't want to thrust her as a team lead.



Garrus is really the only sensible option, since I don't trust the experience of Jacob (though apparently he is also viable).

[NoUserNameHere]

Read the files before sending them off.



Do those files mention teamwork or leadership? If not, then they probably are not the best for your squad leader possition.

[ColloquialAnachron]

Rambo. I rest my case.

[JMKnave]

She says that she's been a solo Justicar for the last 400 years. Hasn't even had anyone to talk to during all that time until Sheppard. I can see why Bioware would not make her a good fire team lead since her communication skills would be non-existent.

[Nastrod]

I think Mordin should be a option also. Mordin has lead teams in the past and has military background.

[Cutlass Jack]

You're missing the 'leader' part. Samara only knows how to handle herself and deliver justice. No question there. She does not have the skills needed to tell others what to do in combat. Just not her skillset.



Much as I dislike Miranda, leadership skills are actually built right into her skills. Garrus is also a good choice because he lead his own team on Omega that was unstoppable until he was tricked away from them. (They died quickly without his leadership)



Samara's chance to shine was the Biotic shield. No one else had the power/discipline for that role. Jack made up for the lack of discipline with pure power, but really that moment was tailor made for Samara.

[Tassigny]

Hello,

Samara is a solitary Justicar that never works with a team. How an earth does it make her better at driving a team than a genetically perfect Cerberus officer, an experienced soldier or a vigiliante with experience of team leading.

[Zhijn]

As everyone already mention, Justicar's are loners fighting crime!. Pretty obvious.

Just because she is a holy anti-crime godness does not mean she knows how to lead. Hell her recruitment mission even states this. She'll kill everyone for the sake of her own code and mission!.

Modifié par Zhijn, 08 février 2010 - 08:03 .

[Arrtis]

legion i think makes a fine leader.He can make those tactical choices faster then anyone.

[jimmyjoefro]

I thought it was pretty ridiculous that Zaeed wouldn't know how to lead a team.

Modifié par jimmyjoefro, 08 février 2010 - 08:04 .

[SharpEdgeSoda]

She is so obviously a lone wolf character that they might as well stick a sign on her saying "Hi, I will let your friends die FOR JUSTICE!" Look at BACKGROUND! She has worked alone in a cuthroat monastic order for, oh, say, over 400 YEARS!

Honestly, the terrible calls people make with the final mission. "Hey, we need a tech specialist! Send Thane, he's always climbing around in duct work." You deserve your dead Mordins and Talis.


To me, I didn't need a guide or anything to realize the obvious for all the "special job" choices. No one left behind, first try, no guide, hints, or spoilers.

QQ some more because Captain Cerulean Cleavage Can't Command Crap!

But she can make a nice bubble.

Modifié par SharpEdgeSoda, 08 février 2010 - 08:07 .

[Nastrod]

Arrtis wrote...

legion i think makes a fine leader.He can make those tactical choices faster then anyone.

I disagree for a few reasons but most important who will want to run into one of the most dangerous battles of their lives under the leadership of geth.

Modifié par Nastrod, 08 février 2010 - 08:05 .

[Daerog]

Pick Garrus then if you don't think the people with Cerberus uniforms work, he has actually led a team who only died when he wasn't there. Would have probably lived if he was there, which is why he was led away.

Samara makes no sense as a leader, she's powerful, but she's more like Thane, works alone and not in groups.

[Draconis6666]

he does he just obviously isnt very good at commanding respect since his own men turned on him so vido could shoot him in the head

[AlloutAce]

I personally would take care to have some1 with more squad based experience lead me. So I would take the "Taliban" militia leader (assuming he gives a damn about human lives) then someone who hasnt shared any kind of friendly relationship with any1 for 400 years.

[Daerog]

jimmyjoefro wrote...

I thought it was pretty ridiculous that Zaeed wouldn't know how to lead a team.

Zaeed is like Wrex from ME1. Great at their job, but not the best in groups. Sure, he's led before, but a lot of his men died, and he doesn't have as much command over his people as he was easily betrayed by his men who sided with Vito.

[tmp7704]

I thought she'd be good choice given the experience (and how Miranda comments that *was* "an excellent choice") but when you read about the Assari military doctrine in the codex it makes sense she actually doesn't perform too well in this role -- the Assari traditionally fight single or in pairs and while their units are capable of guerilla combat, they cannot stand for long against strong weapon fire. So it'd appear while Samara has extremely long practice, she's rarely if ever in position to lead a squad in manner expected for that part of the game.

[Amethyst Deceiver]

sorry, i would not follow a lone wolf into battle no matter how experienced he/she is.

[Clumsy Ninja]

But she's a solo agent. She hasn't worked in groups for hundreds of years, right?

[jimmyjoefro]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

jimmyjoefro wrote...

I thought it was pretty ridiculous that Zaeed wouldn't know how to lead a team.

Zaeed is like Wrex from ME1. Great at their job, but not the best in groups. Sure, he's led before, but a lot of his men died, and he doesn't have as much command over his people as he was easily betrayed by his men who sided with Vito.

He's still trained, experienced, and knows what to do in a firefight better than anyone besides Shepard.  And just because his partner betrayed him and tried to kill him doesn't mean he's a bad leader.  It means Vito's a sonofa****.

Modifié par jimmyjoefro, 08 février 2010 - 08:10 .

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

Arrtis wrote...

legion i think makes a fine leader.He can make those tactical choices faster then anyone.

nah

Legion is a sole agent

[Cpl_Facehugger]

JMKnave wrote...

She says that she's been a solo Justicar for the last 400 years. Hasn't even had anyone to talk to during all that time until Sheppard. I can see why Bioware would not make her a good fire team lead since her communication skills would be non-existent.

Yeah. If I needed someone tracked down, I'd turn to Sam first. But leading troops? Unless she did some of that as a mercenary (four hundred years ago, so it's gotta be rusty), I wouldn't ask her to lead a pile of wet noodles, much less my beloved team.  

Edit: Just having four hundred years of existence doesn't mean you've got the skillset to lead troops in battle. 

Modifié par Cpl_Facehugger, 08 février 2010 - 08:12 .

[Daerog]

Arrtis wrote...

legion i think makes a fine leader.He can make those tactical choices faster then anyone.

Sure, but he communicates so slow with non-geth and doesn't really have much of a commanding presence with being completely emotionless.

Modifié par DaerogTheDhampir, 08 février 2010 - 08:11 .

[GenericPlayer2]

jimmyjoefro wrote...

I thought it was pretty ridiculous that Zaeed wouldn't know how to lead a team.

He does have team lead experience but if you talk to him (click on items in his room) you will find out that he is more of a sole survivor.

Does legion make a good fire team leader? On one hand you think he could make decisions quickly and efficiently, but he couldn't make up his mind during his loyalty quest! Also, I was worried he may not value the lives of the people on his team. Never actually used him for anything other than tube crawling, so I don't know.